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Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2011
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OX don't wreck the damn thread! BTW, was his post at all useful or helpful? My money is on NO, I've been done with him a long time and it will stay that way, why he gets involved in my threads I don't know! Back to topic please!
@ SVT,do you think black wheels would help?
@ SVT,do you think black wheels would help?
Hell no Dan I hate black wheels on any car..I like bright wheels especially chrome or polished aluminum..I will buy a C7 when they come out with one that has equal or more power than my ZR1 and if it comes with dark wheels I'll have to change them..as beautiful as I feel this car is when they come out with a high perf version of it I think it'll be that much meaner looking just like the base C6 vs the Z06 and ZR1..can't wait!!!
Racer
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 457
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I like every aspect of this car,period. I have not been this excited about a vehicle since I bought a "67" two top vert when I was 18 years old. Had five Vettes total in my early years, then got married, you'd know where I am going with this one. Now I am retiring this summer and my gift to myself is a C7. Believe me, I am excited once again. As they say what comes around goes around!
Instructor
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: Walnut Creek CA
Likes...
It's a Corvette... Need I say more...??? I would but a lot of what I would say has been well covered...
Dislikes...
More of a suggestion than a dislike, but the exhaust could be better styled to integrate with the tail light lines...and I'm sure the aftermarket will be all over it as some threads foretell.
I will be driving the car at Spring Mountain this fall and draw useful opinions from that, but I suspect I will be waiting until '15 or '16 to buy one of the high HP models...
I came so close to buying the 427 Vert but it looks like I'm in the waiting game now...
Pro
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 742
Likes: 154
Likes:
Upgraded interior
Almost all of the exterior
Great engine (even @ 450 HP)
7-speed stick with defeatable rev-matching
Lime Rock Green
Black Wheels
Tail Lights
Improved road manners (hopefully)
Z-51 package
Dislikes:
AFM and associated weight and complexity increase
Large front hood vent
Rear vent around tail lights
I like the idea of the vents, just don't like their execution. Too obtrusive. Much prefer how they were handled in the new Viper GTS.
The C7 is the first Corvette that has made me reconsider a Cayman S (and right now the Vette is by far the more interesting of the two).
Very excited to learn more about it and see if GM was really able to dial up the handling another notch.
-T
Upgraded interior
Almost all of the exterior
Great engine (even @ 450 HP)
7-speed stick with defeatable rev-matching
Lime Rock Green
Black Wheels
Tail Lights
Improved road manners (hopefully)
Z-51 package
Dislikes:
AFM and associated weight and complexity increase
Large front hood vent
Rear vent around tail lights
I like the idea of the vents, just don't like their execution. Too obtrusive. Much prefer how they were handled in the new Viper GTS.
The C7 is the first Corvette that has made me reconsider a Cayman S (and right now the Vette is by far the more interesting of the two).
Very excited to learn more about it and see if GM was really able to dial up the handling another notch.
-T
Instructor
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Opinion from repeat viper owner.
Likes
Given that I have never met a car that I liked from all angles, give the C7 high marks for overall styling.
Don't know much about engines and such, but if it stays in the 450-475hp range, should be an outstanding performer.
Although it's a corvette and that alone is enough for many folk, Chevrolet seem to have really gone out of their way with the engineering and mechanicals in this one.
C7 still found a way to offer amazing value for 2 seater lovers
Great platform from which to develop a z06 upgrade.
Dislikes
Rear is a tad busy
Have to wonder how much cleaner it might have looked with side exhaust.
Interior too nice
Inside is too high-tech, too comfortable looking, too elegant (hell... that's why many of us go to vipers because they are so very basic in comparison)
Likes
Given that I have never met a car that I liked from all angles, give the C7 high marks for overall styling.
Don't know much about engines and such, but if it stays in the 450-475hp range, should be an outstanding performer.
Although it's a corvette and that alone is enough for many folk, Chevrolet seem to have really gone out of their way with the engineering and mechanicals in this one.
C7 still found a way to offer amazing value for 2 seater lovers
Great platform from which to develop a z06 upgrade.
Dislikes
Rear is a tad busy
Have to wonder how much cleaner it might have looked with side exhaust.
Interior too nice
Inside is too high-tech, too comfortable looking, too elegant (hell... that's why many of us go to vipers because they are so very basic in comparison)
Race Director
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 10,776
Likes: 10
Opinion from repeat viper owner.
Likes
Given that I have never met a car that I liked from all angles, give the C7 high marks for overall styling.
Don't know much about engines and such, but if it stays in the 450-475hp range, should be an outstanding performer.
Although it's a corvette and that alone is enough for many folk, Chevrolet seem to have really gone out of their way with the engineering and mechanicals in this one.
C7 still found a way to offer amazing value for 2 seater lovers
Great platform from which to develop a z06 upgrade.
Dislikes
Rear is a tad busy
Have to wonder how much cleaner it might have looked with side exhaust.
Interior too nice
Inside is too high-tech, too comfortable looking, too elegant (hell... that's why many of us go to vipers because they are so very basic in comparison)
Likes
Given that I have never met a car that I liked from all angles, give the C7 high marks for overall styling.
Don't know much about engines and such, but if it stays in the 450-475hp range, should be an outstanding performer.
Although it's a corvette and that alone is enough for many folk, Chevrolet seem to have really gone out of their way with the engineering and mechanicals in this one.
C7 still found a way to offer amazing value for 2 seater lovers
Great platform from which to develop a z06 upgrade.
Dislikes
Rear is a tad busy
Have to wonder how much cleaner it might have looked with side exhaust.
Interior too nice
Inside is too high-tech, too comfortable looking, too elegant (hell... that's why many of us go to vipers because they are so very basic in comparison)
...and we all know the vast sales numbers for those Vipers!
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Safety Car
Joined: Aug 2012
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From: Danbury CT
@ post-it, nice story and great enthusiasm in your words! Keep us informed of your order combo and best of luck!
@ wild bob, if you're going to wait until 15 or 16 buying a 427 now would be a nice filler. With the good deals going on your depreciation won't be so bad and the joy of use is irreplaceable.
@trackaholic, good valid points, especially the vents comment IMO. thanks for comments.
@ steve, like myself you seem drawn to the brutal manners of the Viper. I always felt the Viper commanded your attention and challenged your skills, why I've always been such a fan! Good post...
Seems like maybe this thread has run it's course, thanks to all the responders for your opinions and mostly thanks for not making it a train wreck! Hopefully these discussions going forward can for the most part remain civil, there will always be a rotten apple here and there and I have certainly been guilty myself!
I do have one add to like, the sound we've all heard on some videos is awesome. Of course we are not sure if it is going to be exact, it sounds maybe a little to loud for OEM.
My 427 with the fuse pulled seems to have a similar exhaust note.
@ wild bob, if you're going to wait until 15 or 16 buying a 427 now would be a nice filler. With the good deals going on your depreciation won't be so bad and the joy of use is irreplaceable.
@trackaholic, good valid points, especially the vents comment IMO. thanks for comments.
@ steve, like myself you seem drawn to the brutal manners of the Viper. I always felt the Viper commanded your attention and challenged your skills, why I've always been such a fan! Good post...
Seems like maybe this thread has run it's course, thanks to all the responders for your opinions and mostly thanks for not making it a train wreck! Hopefully these discussions going forward can for the most part remain civil, there will always be a rotten apple here and there and I have certainly been guilty myself!
I do have one add to like, the sound we've all heard on some videos is awesome. Of course we are not sure if it is going to be exact, it sounds maybe a little to loud for OEM.
My 427 with the fuse pulled seems to have a similar exhaust note.
Race Director
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,375
Likes: 406
From: Florida
You could almost say the thread is poll-like. Conclusions:
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
Team Owner
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,480
Likes: 9
From: East Meadow NY
St. Jude Donor '12
This is from a C5 owner so I am comparing to my current car regarding some features, though some apply to the C6.
Likes:
- front/side views of the car
- LT1 having a nice flat torque curve and maintaining decent fuel economy using AFM.
- updated electronics
- upgraded/improved seats including heating and cooling
- overall improvement of interior quality.
Dislikes:
- rear end of the hatch back looks bulky and the black cladding on the bottom is hideous on lighter colored cars.
- all of the extra vents, compounded by them being black instead of body color.
Unsure:
- Interior styling - I will have to see it in person to make a final judgement.
- performance numbers - final HP/TQ and weight numbers not released but if they stay at 450hp/450tq I will be disappointed
The convertible, which is what I would buy, alleviates a lot of my issues with the looks since it ditches the extra vents and the back end doesn't appear as bulky because it isn't a hatch back.
Likes:
- front/side views of the car
- LT1 having a nice flat torque curve and maintaining decent fuel economy using AFM.
- updated electronics
- upgraded/improved seats including heating and cooling
- overall improvement of interior quality.
Dislikes:
- rear end of the hatch back looks bulky and the black cladding on the bottom is hideous on lighter colored cars.
- all of the extra vents, compounded by them being black instead of body color.
Unsure:
- Interior styling - I will have to see it in person to make a final judgement.
- performance numbers - final HP/TQ and weight numbers not released but if they stay at 450hp/450tq I will be disappointed
The convertible, which is what I would buy, alleviates a lot of my issues with the looks since it ditches the extra vents and the back end doesn't appear as bulky because it isn't a hatch back.
Race Director
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,255
Likes: 2,252
From: NorCal
You could almost say the thread is poll-like. Conclusions:
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,756
Likes: 173
From: Ventura CA
You could almost say the thread is poll-like. Conclusions:
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,089
Likes: 256
From: Venice, CA
Yes "vast" sales numbers are what makes a great sports car.
Stupid Ferrari Enzo only sold 399 units compared to the awesome Miata that has sold almost a million. What about that POS 1965 427 Shelby Cobra- what a failure with only a few hundred sold.
Every 2013 Viper is sold - at around $125,000 a pop - wanna bet there will be leftover 2014 C7s when the 2015s arrive?
I swear this guy works for GM. With his C7 leaks and his anti Viper attacks (which are factually challenged) whenever - god forbid - someone compares it to the Corvette.
I have never defended a car I owned as much as some defend the C7 that no one owns. Kinda weird how radical some of the new "reveal" members are.
This I will add to my Dislikes:
- Overzealous C7 "Enthusiasts" that spend an inordinate amount of time defending a car that many of them will never purchase. Not all but many joined right as the marketing uh I mean reveal happened.
Stupid Ferrari Enzo only sold 399 units compared to the awesome Miata that has sold almost a million. What about that POS 1965 427 Shelby Cobra- what a failure with only a few hundred sold.
Every 2013 Viper is sold - at around $125,000 a pop - wanna bet there will be leftover 2014 C7s when the 2015s arrive?
I swear this guy works for GM. With his C7 leaks and his anti Viper attacks (which are factually challenged) whenever - god forbid - someone compares it to the Corvette.
I have never defended a car I owned as much as some defend the C7 that no one owns. Kinda weird how radical some of the new "reveal" members are.
This I will add to my Dislikes:
- Overzealous C7 "Enthusiasts" that spend an inordinate amount of time defending a car that many of them will never purchase. Not all but many joined right as the marketing uh I mean reveal happened.
Last edited by Hirohawa; Apr 24, 2013 at 04:22 AM.
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,377
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From: Danbury CT
@ Hirohawa, nicely done! THUMBS UP!! I'll leave it at that, the whole idea behind this thread was for it to NOT turn into the Titanic.
Not sure if this was mentioned but another dislike I have is the enormous gap between the tire and fender. If cars dental flossed it would have to use a bridge cable!! LOL
Not sure if this was mentioned but another dislike I have is the enormous gap between the tire and fender. If cars dental flossed it would have to use a bridge cable!! LOL
Banned Scam/Spammer
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From: Bonita Springs FL
@ Hirohawa, nicely done! THUMBS UP!! I'll leave it at that, the whole idea behind this thread was for it to NOT turn into the Titanic.
Not sure if this was mentioned but another dislike I have is the enormous gap between the tire and fender. If cars dental flossed it would have to use a bridge cable!! LOL
Not sure if this was mentioned but another dislike I have is the enormous gap between the tire and fender. If cars dental flossed it would have to use a bridge cable!! LOL
I doubt if the design guys at GM were out to entice the Low Rider crowd.
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Yes "vast" sales numbers are what makes a great sports car.
Stupid Ferrari Enzo only sold 399 units compared to the awesome Miata that has sold almost a million. What about that POS 1965 427 Shelby Cobra- what a failure with only a few hundred sold.
Every 2013 Viper is sold - at around $125,000 a pop - wanna bet there will be leftover 2014 C7s when the 2015s arrive?
I swear this guy works for GM. With his C7 leaks and his anti Viper attacks (which are factually challenged) whenever - god forbid - someone compares it to the Corvette.
I have never defended a car I owned as much as some defend the C7 that no one owns. Kinda weird how radical some of the new "reveal" members are.
This I will add to my Dislikes:
- Overzealous C7 "Enthusiasts" that spend an inordinate amount of time defending a car that many of them will never purchase. Not all but many joined right as the marketing uh I mean reveal happened.
Stupid Ferrari Enzo only sold 399 units compared to the awesome Miata that has sold almost a million. What about that POS 1965 427 Shelby Cobra- what a failure with only a few hundred sold.
Every 2013 Viper is sold - at around $125,000 a pop - wanna bet there will be leftover 2014 C7s when the 2015s arrive?
I swear this guy works for GM. With his C7 leaks and his anti Viper attacks (which are factually challenged) whenever - god forbid - someone compares it to the Corvette.
I have never defended a car I owned as much as some defend the C7 that no one owns. Kinda weird how radical some of the new "reveal" members are.
This I will add to my Dislikes:
- Overzealous C7 "Enthusiasts" that spend an inordinate amount of time defending a car that many of them will never purchase. Not all but many joined right as the marketing uh I mean reveal happened.
Originally Posted by forensicsteve
Opinion from repeat viper owner.
Likes
Given that I have never met a car that I liked from all angles, give the C7 high marks for overall styling.
Don't know much about engines and such, but if it stays in the 450-475hp range, should be an outstanding performer.
Although it's a corvette and that alone is enough for many folk, Chevrolet seem to have really gone out of their way with the engineering and mechanicals in this one.
C7 still found a way to offer amazing value for 2 seater lovers
Great platform from which to develop a z06 upgrade.
Dislikes
Rear is a tad busy
Have to wonder how much cleaner it might have looked with side exhaust.
Interior too nice
Inside is too high-tech, too comfortable looking, too elegant (hell... that's why many of us go to vipers because they are so very basic in comparison)
Opinion from repeat viper owner.
Likes
Given that I have never met a car that I liked from all angles, give the C7 high marks for overall styling.
Don't know much about engines and such, but if it stays in the 450-475hp range, should be an outstanding performer.
Although it's a corvette and that alone is enough for many folk, Chevrolet seem to have really gone out of their way with the engineering and mechanicals in this one.
C7 still found a way to offer amazing value for 2 seater lovers
Great platform from which to develop a z06 upgrade.
Dislikes
Rear is a tad busy
Have to wonder how much cleaner it might have looked with side exhaust.
Interior too nice
Inside is too high-tech, too comfortable looking, too elegant (hell... that's why many of us go to vipers because they are so very basic in comparison)
It's hilarious to watch what people fool themselves into believing. Even to the point of trying to compare a Viper to an Enzo Ferrari because of sales numbers.
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From: Bonita Springs FL
Interesting that you feel the need to order some of us out of this thread.
I don't have a problem with the C7 and neither do the overwhelming majority of us here on the board as clearly demonstrated by the various polls. It is painfully obvious that it is you who has the problem with the C7. OK, we get it Dan. Why don't you just enjoy your 427, its a great car and likely one of the most desireable of the C6 run. Enjoy
Last edited by punky; Apr 24, 2013 at 08:38 AM.
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Safety Car
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From: Danbury CT
@ DR, look at my post #69. In no way am I "ripping" the car, why don't you look at the glass half full every once in a while? You and a few others always start the negative tone of a thread and it just escalates. If you have a problem with me fine, don't drag down a thread because of it though.
And I'm not ordering anyone, I'm simply suggesting that if you are here to wreck the thread than just leave! My initial post states very clearly that we discuss our likes and dislikes, period!
And lastly I won't buy a base C7 in part b/c it's a base, like with the ZO6, ZR1 and 427 they have a lot more to offer. Same reason why I never bought a base C6, I like more performance and different styling if it can be had and I'm sure in the C7 future that will occur. Point being I just well may buy an enhanced version someday, just not the base which has room for improvement IMO. No harm no foul...
And I'm not ordering anyone, I'm simply suggesting that if you are here to wreck the thread than just leave! My initial post states very clearly that we discuss our likes and dislikes, period!
And lastly I won't buy a base C7 in part b/c it's a base, like with the ZO6, ZR1 and 427 they have a lot more to offer. Same reason why I never bought a base C6, I like more performance and different styling if it can be had and I'm sure in the C7 future that will occur. Point being I just well may buy an enhanced version someday, just not the base which has room for improvement IMO. No harm no foul...