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Drifting
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From: McDonough, Georgia
You could almost say the thread is poll-like. Conclusions:
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
1. Most like the car overall and will be tempted to buy one.
2. Most dislike the rear, to varying degrees
3. Most will wait until they can see final numbers and the actual car before they decide.
4. Most have a perfectly good ride now, so the price/performance mix will have to be compelling.
What I noticed (so far) was that things that were on the CON list for some were on the PRO list for others. I guess that suggests a car with wide appeal (as opposed to a more polarized appeal).
Without laying out my specifics (considering I am generally viewed as unqualified since I don't and never have owned a Corvette), Jinx's comments run pretty well with my thoughts (and he explains them well).
One of the things I like--and this draws from my graphic design experience--I love how GM has "slipped" in a "stingray" into the design is various ways.
Over all, I had hoped the design would lean more toward revolutionary than evolutionary (but those days in auto design are probably over with
). Having said that, I really like the C7. Not everything but most everything.
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@ DR, look at my post #69. In no way am I "ripping" the car, why don't you look at the glass half full every once in a while? You and a few others always start the negative tone of a thread and it just escalates. If you have a problem with me fine, don't drag down a thread because of it though.
And I'm not ordering anyone, I'm simply suggesting that if you are here to wreck the thread than just leave! My initial post states very clearly that we discuss our likes and dislikes, period!
And lastly I won't buy a base C7 in part b/c it's a base, like with the ZO6, ZR1 and 427 they have a lot more to offer. Same reason why I never bought a base C6, I like more performance and different styling if it can be had and I'm sure in the C7 future that will occur. Point being I just well may buy an enhanced version someday, just not the base which has room for improvement IMO. No harm no foul...
And I'm not ordering anyone, I'm simply suggesting that if you are here to wreck the thread than just leave! My initial post states very clearly that we discuss our likes and dislikes, period!
And lastly I won't buy a base C7 in part b/c it's a base, like with the ZO6, ZR1 and 427 they have a lot more to offer. Same reason why I never bought a base C6, I like more performance and different styling if it can be had and I'm sure in the C7 future that will occur. Point being I just well may buy an enhanced version someday, just not the base which has room for improvement IMO. No harm no foul...
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Safety Car
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From: Danbury CT
Okay you leave me no choice! This thread was designed to discuss likes and dislikes, so why is my comment any different than any others? How you determine that comment as "bashing" is way beyond me.
What was that noise? I believe it was the recess bell going off, time to get back to your first grade class even though they do not teach you semantics that young. Have a nice life and tighten up the screws before you really come apart!!
What was that noise? I believe it was the recess bell going off, time to get back to your first grade class even though they do not teach you semantics that young. Have a nice life and tighten up the screws before you really come apart!!
Drifting
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I like the C7 but don't love it, for one reason only.....
GM went a little to edgy with the overall design. Transformers cool now, will be a silly less desirable car than the C6 in not so many years.
With that said, I still need to see the C7 in person before I make a final judgement.
GM went a little to edgy with the overall design. Transformers cool now, will be a silly less desirable car than the C6 in not so many years.
With that said, I still need to see the C7 in person before I make a final judgement.
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14, '16
I won't buy a base C7 in part b/c it's a base, like with the ZO6, ZR1 and 427 they have a lot more to offer. Same reason why I never bought a base C6, I like more performance and different styling if it can be had and I'm sure in the C7 future that will occur. Point being I just well may buy an enhanced version someday, just not the base which has room for improvement IMO. No harm no foul...
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Safety Car
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From: Danbury CT
@ dreamerak, you are correct in that I won't buy a base, I did clearly state in post 80 I would totally consider a perf. model that's more well dressed. Again I find it funny how you missed the part that I may buy a juiced up version, it will still be a C7 right? I mean come on, I a not a Yankee fan but will discuss their team any day of the week! Again trying to derail the thread and turn it into a he said she said. Just discuss the car as the thread was designed to do!
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14, '16
@ dreamerak, you are correct in that I won't buy a base, I did clearly state in post 80 I would totally consider a perf. model that's more well dressed. Again I find it funny how you missed the part that I may buy a juiced up version, it will still be a C7 right? I mean come on, I a not a Yankee fan but will discuss their team any day of the week! Again trying to derail the thread and turn it into a he said she said. Just discuss the car as the thread was designed to do!
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Safety Car
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From: Danbury CT
Sorry my office computer is filtered pal so I couldn't see the quote. So what you are saying is that I nor anyone who IS NOT going to buy a base C7 can't talk about it? This thread also isn't about what Dan buys now is it? Thanks to you and the good Dr. for ruining the thread! As I said I'm not a Yankee fan but discuss them all the time with my baseball enthusiast friends, although friends is certainly not the correct word when discussing some forum users! Have a nice day...
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14, '16
Sorry my office computer is filtered pal so I couldn't see the quote. So what you are saying is that I nor anyone who IS NOT going to buy a base C7 can't talk about it? This thread also isn't about what Dan buys now is it? Thanks to you and the good Dr. for ruining the thread! As I said I'm not a Yankee fan but discuss them all the time with my baseball enthusiast friends, although friends is certainly not the correct word when discussing some forum users! Have a nice day...
Le Mans Master
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From: Ventura CA
This thread that you started is obviously just another poorly disguised opportunity for you to rip on the C7.
Interesting that you feel the need to order some of us out of this thread.
I don't have a problem with the C7 and neither do the overwhelming majority of us here on the board as clearly demonstrated by the various polls. It is painfully obvious that it is you who has the problem with the C7. OK, we get it Dan. Why don't you just enjoy your 427, its a great car and likely one of the most desireable of the C6 run. Enjoy
Interesting that you feel the need to order some of us out of this thread.
I don't have a problem with the C7 and neither do the overwhelming majority of us here on the board as clearly demonstrated by the various polls. It is painfully obvious that it is you who has the problem with the C7. OK, we get it Dan. Why don't you just enjoy your 427, its a great car and likely one of the most desireable of the C6 run. Enjoy
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St. Jude Donor '06-'08-'10-'11-'12-'13 '14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19
And so it starts, folks now dissing on the OP because he stated his dislikes? Exactly what he wanted the thread for? Come on folks, as stated by
I predict this thread will now spiral into personal attacks, etc. It was good while it lasted. Stay on topic or stay away, it's really quite simple. 
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@ dreamerak, you seem sensible and your comment somewhat warrants a response. You say you find it odd, well I find it odd that some married couples that don't get along worth a sh$% stay married, who am I to judge though? As for the Yankees I do not belong to any but as said discuss them all the time with friends as I do cars. It took me until the last year to buy a C6, reason being I've always owned Vipers and Porsches that I track, almost bought a ZR1 but favored the Dodge. As I've also said when a better dressed perf. C7 comes out I will likely get one, the fact that I don't want a base shouldn't refrain me from conversations. It's obviously apparent that the real C7 die hards get offended if the car is slighted at all which I find absolutely childish and ridiculous. When they spit out a car that has some meaty tires that fill the gaps and have some serious hp under the hood and other upgrades I'm likely in.
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14, '16
@ dreamerak, you seem sensible and your comment somewhat warrants a response. You say you find it odd, well I find it odd that some married couples that don't get along worth a sh$% stay married, who am I to judge though? As for the Yankees I do not belong to any but as said discuss them all the time with friends as I do cars. It took me until the last year to buy a C6, reason being I've always owned Vipers and Porsches that I track, almost bought a ZR1 but favored the Dodge. As I've also said when a better dressed perf. C7 comes out I will likely get one, the fact that I don't want a base shouldn't refrain me from conversations. It's obviously apparent that the real C7 die hards get offended if the car is slighted at all which I find absolutely childish and ridiculous. When they spit out a car that has some meaty tires that fill the gaps and have some serious hp under the hood and other upgrades I'm likely in.
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@ ByByBMW, thanks again for your input and support.
@ dreamerak, this thread was not about "anti C7" crowd, it was a welcome to debate and discuss the likes and dislikes and for the most part went extremely well, can't it just be left at that?
I don't disagree with you regarding anything knowledgeable regarding the perf. or specs, no one except GM knows. I don't know if someone in this thread questioned this GM engineer you refer too but if they did you're correct it was wrong.
And you have to remember the door swings both ways when it comes to proof of anything, in reality the only thing we all know is what it will look like (with of course some generic mechanical knowledge) and that is mostly what we have been discussing, the appearance. Again I say MOSTLY, I know other areas have been pointed out and critiqued be it with fact or not.
@ dreamerak, this thread was not about "anti C7" crowd, it was a welcome to debate and discuss the likes and dislikes and for the most part went extremely well, can't it just be left at that?
I don't disagree with you regarding anything knowledgeable regarding the perf. or specs, no one except GM knows. I don't know if someone in this thread questioned this GM engineer you refer too but if they did you're correct it was wrong.
And you have to remember the door swings both ways when it comes to proof of anything, in reality the only thing we all know is what it will look like (with of course some generic mechanical knowledge) and that is mostly what we have been discussing, the appearance. Again I say MOSTLY, I know other areas have been pointed out and critiqued be it with fact or not.
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I think the C7 die hards are offended when the car is slighted with no real proof from the anti C7 crowd, and they are tired of the same group regurgitating the same threads over and over and over. I find it ridiculous that some claim to know the performance of the car when so little is known about the specs that will determine the performance, and when a GM engineer gives us a hint "the lap times at VIR are competitive with todays Z06" he's called a liar. What kind of Corvette enthusiast does that?
I'm no engineer, but I know enough about automobiles that when they talk about the frame and chassis, and suspension components, and materials, and management systems, that this is a huge step forward for the Corvette. I believe what they say, because they know these things will be held to scrutiny, and that's not a bad thing. The one good thing about skepticism and the 24 hour news cycle is that it neutralizes the liars. This car will be good if not great. Is it perfect to everybody? No, that's impossible.
The only thing left to be seen is if the car is as good on pavement as it is on paper.
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
It's nice to see drmustang gets along so well with everybody here. He got banned from SVTPerformance.com.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/member.php?u=18481
He sent me a nice e-thug PM once, it was hilarious.
S.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/member.php?u=18481
He sent me a nice e-thug PM once, it was hilarious.
S.
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And, why don't you drop it. It is an opinion thread - what's wrong with that? Also, why are you are bothering with an opinion thread on a car that you are totally in love with and are first in line to buy. Given your extreme irritation at any criticism of a car you regard as perfect, I'm not sure why you would torture yourself by going into every opinion thread to debate every negative impression. A normal person would conclude that they love the car, can afford one, will get one, and that is all that counts. What am I missing?