Showcasing E85?
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Showcasing E85?
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What is wrong with you!?
It is avenue to a cooler running more powerful cars and you hate it? Politics? Do guys like you work for Exon or something? The ZR1 can heat soak at 638hp. Simply adding E85 could AUTOMATICALLY get it up to 680hp without the heat soak. Give me a Fricken Break!
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Ethanol is America's Gas. lol. plus it is a HUGE gain. the extra fuel means cooler combustion chambers. and the list goes on and on and on. .....
the higher compression of the LT1 will eat this stuff alive.
the c7 rpo code has flex fuel in it.... if gm does it right. you could be looking at a 10-15% hp gain of 91
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It is avenue to a cooler running more powerful cars and you hate it? Politics? Do guys like you work for Exon or something? The ZR1 can heat soak at 638hp. Simply adding E85 could AUTOMATICALLY get it up to 680hp without the heat soak. Give me a Fricken Break!
It is avenue to a cooler running more powerful cars and you hate it? Politics? Do guys like you work for Exon or something? The ZR1 can heat soak at 638hp. Simply adding E85 could AUTOMATICALLY get it up to 680hp without the heat soak. Give me a Fricken Break!
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Heck, call it Absurd Ferrari gas!
If you need another 40hp in your $120,000 car you can spend your own money to mod it. I have no desire to have my tax dollars funding a proposition as absurd as american ethanol. Last I checked a gallon of ethanol that sells for $1.65 costs $1.92 in subsidies to produce. If it wasn't for the import tax placed on ethanol those dollars could buy 2 gallons of brazillian ethanol for each gallon those subsidies generate. Don't tell me that makes sense to you.
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/07/10...ellulosic-e85/
Why can't some of you people get it!
Freacking Race It Only (track days)!
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The Ferrari factory developed the updates to the fuel system and the calibration to allow the cars to run on alcohol. Running on E85 is expected to help improve the performance thanks to the increased octane rating of the fuel.
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/07/10...ellulosic-e85/
Why can't some of you people get it! Freacking Race It Only (track days)!
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/07/10...ellulosic-e85/
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It is avenue to a cooler running more powerful cars and you hate it? Politics? Do guys like you work for Exon or something? The ZR1 can heat soak at 638hp. Simply adding E85 could AUTOMATICALLY get it up to 680hp without the heat soak. Give me a Fricken Break!
It is avenue to a cooler running more powerful cars and you hate it? Politics? Do guys like you work for Exon or something? The ZR1 can heat soak at 638hp. Simply adding E85 could AUTOMATICALLY get it up to 680hp without the heat soak. Give me a Fricken Break!
I go out of my way to buy 100% PURE gasoline. No E10/E85 crap for me.
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I Love it! Thanks!
Looks like I got lucky with the EXXON interlude.
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What is this?
http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation...flex-fuel.html
But, there very well may be some logistical problems with it in a high performance realm. It would be cutting edge, and only worth it in that realm.
And, unless you can invalidate the above information you haven't proven your point.
Anyway, if it does come in the C7 you can run yours on your gas to get spanked on a track day, and you can explain then?
THE OLD VETTES WERE DOGS!!!
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im sorry but what are you thinking........lol
Ethanol is America's Gas. lol. plus it is a HUGE gain. the extra fuel means cooler combustion chambers. and the list goes on and on and on. .....
the higher compression of the LT1 will eat this stuff alive.
the c7 rpo code has flex fuel in it.... if gm does it right. you could be looking at a 10-15% hp gain of 91
Ethanol is America's Gas. lol. plus it is a HUGE gain. the extra fuel means cooler combustion chambers. and the list goes on and on and on. .....
the higher compression of the LT1 will eat this stuff alive.
the c7 rpo code has flex fuel in it.... if gm does it right. you could be looking at a 10-15% hp gain of 91
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LT1 2014 ENGINE GAS, 8 CYL, 6.2L, DI, AFM, VVT, HO, E85 MAX, ALUM 6.2 (LT1)"
http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation...flex-fuel.html
But, there very well may be some logistical problems with it in a high performance realm. It would be cutting edge, and only worth it in that realm.
And, unless you can invalidate the above information you haven't proven your point.
Anyway, if it does come in the C7 you can run yours on your gas to get spanked on a track day, and you can explain then?
THE OLD VETTES WERE DOGS!!!
http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation...flex-fuel.html
But, there very well may be some logistical problems with it in a high performance realm. It would be cutting edge, and only worth it in that realm.
And, unless you can invalidate the above information you haven't proven your point.
Anyway, if it does come in the C7 you can run yours on your gas to get spanked on a track day, and you can explain then?
THE OLD VETTES WERE DOGS!!!
The LT1 is the GenV engine used in the C7 Corvette and we all know that it is a E0/E10 engine designed for 91 octane.
The three GenV engines used in the 14 Silverado are the LV3(V6 with 11: CR for 87 octane), the L83 V8 with 11:1 CR designed for 87 octane and the L86 V8 with 11.5:1 CR designed for 91 octane.
No GenV engine at this point is designed for E85 FlexFuel.
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Doubt this is correct...
The only person that said that the LT1 will not be E85 ready also said that E10 was the absolute max. I can tell you that isn't true, even if E85 wasn't supported.
The government has already been pushing for E15 as the minimum E mix. That means that GM would be designing a car that wouldn't run in many areas of the country. California will likely be one of the first adopters of E15. California also happens to be the state where Corvettes sell the most. So that information is definitely incorrect.
When E10 was being pushed, the government gave all manufacturers a warning about it. In 1991, all cars manufacturers selling cars in America started supporting E10 for America-bound cars. The idea that GM wouldn't be supporting E85, let alone E10, on a DI vehicle is preposterous. Especially since GM loves to sell those flex-fuel vehicles.
The only person that said that the LT1 will not be E85 ready also said that E10 was the absolute max. I can tell you that isn't true, even if E85 wasn't supported.
The government has already been pushing for E15 as the minimum E mix. That means that GM would be designing a car that wouldn't run in many areas of the country. California will likely be one of the first adopters of E15. California also happens to be the state where Corvettes sell the most. So that information is definitely incorrect.
When E10 was being pushed, the government gave all manufacturers a warning about it. In 1991, all cars manufacturers selling cars in America started supporting E10 for America-bound cars. The idea that GM wouldn't be supporting E85, let alone E10, on a DI vehicle is preposterous. Especially since GM loves to sell those flex-fuel vehicles.