Showcasing E85?
Racer
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From: Espoo, Finland
I'm not quite sure what you just said there. I'm assuming you were tired when you wrote that.
However, we do have a real history of temperatures on Earth going back 800,000 years thanks to ice core samples. Sorry, but the media has NOTHING to do with this kind of research. That's what scientists do. Not journalists. Fox, NBC and CNN aren't traveling to the ice shelves and pulling core samples. Scientists are. ]
However, we do have a real history of temperatures on Earth going back 800,000 years thanks to ice core samples. Sorry, but the media has NOTHING to do with this kind of research. That's what scientists do. Not journalists. Fox, NBC and CNN aren't traveling to the ice shelves and pulling core samples. Scientists are. ]
Yes. Of course I did try to say the model that scientist use
And this modelling method did not produce same results as with real straight temperature measurements from 150 years. What those brilliant scientist then did was to delete model prediction from last 150 years and replaced it with real data. Now they had a curve which used model data and real data but did not tell that to anyone. Now you can question does the model work at all if it does not work for past 150 years. But that is not very important as real measurements show the increase. So I actually agree with you but I was lazy to reply to quy you also argued against
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Le Mans Master
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From: Beaverton OR
That didn't take long!
@ 48:50 - Jordan Lee, Chief Engineer of Small Block Engines talking about the LT1.
http://www.autoline.tv/journal/?m=201305&cat=790
Reasons...E85 usage not high, cost to develop to large, fuel economy is worse. Actually that part starts at 47:39 with a phone call...
http://www.autoline.tv/journal/?m=201305&cat=790
Reasons...E85 usage not high, cost to develop to large, fuel economy is worse. Actually that part starts at 47:39 with a phone call...
And with Fords help I already equated the fuel pump they desire is too small. They could use the 6.2 liter system with the 5.0 or 5.3 liter on E85. To do a system for the 6.2 with ethanol would require more capacity and expense. A larger system will have to come on line for the bigger Vette so why not now as an option?
Pro
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From: Houston TX
The amount of water that gets attracted to E85 isn't remotely enough to rust anything it would touch. The only way for that to happen is to have a metal gas tank. Water won't make it through the rest of the fuel system, even if the car is parked for a while because the fuel lines are air tight. Water would somehow have to creep up through the fuel pump and through the fuel lines.
Other than that, it wouldn't be possible for anything to rust. The lines themselves are stainless steel. The fuel would combust leaving nowhere for the water to sit in the combustion chamber and as long as the fuel pumps have no parts that can rust (which they don't), there's nowhere for rust to start.
The idea is even more unlikely than the idea that SOMEHOW enough water could accumulate in a tank of E85 to hydro-lock the engine. (Another obviously untrue myth.)
Other than that, it wouldn't be possible for anything to rust. The lines themselves are stainless steel. The fuel would combust leaving nowhere for the water to sit in the combustion chamber and as long as the fuel pumps have no parts that can rust (which they don't), there's nowhere for rust to start.
The idea is even more unlikely than the idea that SOMEHOW enough water could accumulate in a tank of E85 to hydro-lock the engine. (Another obviously untrue myth.)
Le Mans Master
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From: Los Angeles California
Fuel reserves move so much, this wouldn't likely be the case. That's why refueling trucks make it to the gas stations every week or sooner (depending on the how busy the station is).
If E85 is offered, the station will have a smaller reservoir and the E85 wouldn't sit long enough to take in water.
If E85 is offered, the station will have a smaller reservoir and the E85 wouldn't sit long enough to take in water.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Beaverton OR
Right!
couldn't agree more. In some measurements temps are starting to decline slightly. Man does not have an effect on temps. Mother nature rules. Remember when Exxon dumped oil in Valdez AK? A lot of fringe environmentalists were saying the plant life and coral were destroyed for hundreds if not thousands of years. Yet, only 10 years after the spill, plant life, coral and fish populations, were more plentiful than before. Also, new fish were found that hadn't been there before. Nature will trump Man every time. Al Gore will not agree.
