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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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Though we can't see them, I'm certain you incorporated a dual clutch, all wheel drive, a storage compartment big enough for the largest handgun made, a nine speed transmission and brought it in under 2000 pounds !!
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Photoshop is not one of your strong points Paul.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GN1270
If it were up to a lot of the old folks in here the Corvette would still have cheesy pop up headlights. I think I remember a few people saying they would not buy bc of that too.
The pop up headlights were eliminated on the C6 so that they could meet the European lighting requirements so they could sell the C6 in Europe without adding a bunch more lights on the car.

I might add that I have owned all 6 generations and been driving vettes since I was 17 and I for one was very glad to see the hidden headlights gone with the debut of the C6.

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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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The pop up headlights were eliminated on the C6 so that they could meet the European lighting requirements so they could sell the C6 in Europe without adding a bunch more lights on the car.
Nah, they were ugly, heavy, inefficient and unreliable.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Nah, they were ugly, heavy, inefficient and unreliable.


Those also were reasons as in this quote from the C6 Vette's chief designer:

"The trimmer size is also intended to make Chevy's sports car "more acceptable in an overseas environment," according to chief designer Tom Peters, who also penned the C6's platform mate, the Cadillac XLR, as well as the Pontiac Aztek. Aiding the international cause are exposed headlamps, which eliminate the need to add extra lights for Europe. Dropping the hideaway lights "was one of the most grueling choices that we made," says Hill, but he adds: "With the Corvette, when we make a decision that's technically correct, then it's right for the car." And, indeed, the exposed lights incorporate HID low beams and also save weight, cost, and complexity."

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...6/viewall.html
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Nah, they were ugly, heavy, inefficient and unreliable.

Hell, that describes half the members of this Forum, including me
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
Hell, that describes half the members of this Forum, including me
Good point, me too!
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JKVIPER
Remember in 1984 there was a black body molding around the whole exterior of the car. Chevy changed it in 1985 to body colored. Not sure if it was customers complaining, but they did change it the next year.
No, they didn't; it was still black in '85. in fact, it didn't change to body color until '91.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by harlold
They were constantly tweaking the C6, no reason they won't with the C7.

Hopefully they will keep adding individualization options for the interior.
I don't own a C6, so as an outside observer, just how obvious are these "tweaks"? I honestly don't think many would even notice.

I do suspect those same types of tweaks would also be performed on the C7, but they are a far cry from what the OP is talking about (inferring by his history of posts and leading with the Malibu redesign story).

The Malibu needed a redesign because the car was crap. The problems weren't with the exterior styling either. I'm honestly not too sure the redesign will be able to address the Malibu's shortcomings to significantly improve its relative placement in the mid-size sedan segment.

I predict that the C7 will have extremely favorable reviews from pretty much all magazines. After all, the largest improvements have been made in areas that magazines love to talk about (feel, precision, balance, interior, seats, etc). Because of this, I also believe there is no way the C7 will change significantly over its life. Those looking for something different will need to wait until the C8. Or at least until the C7 widebody arrives. The widebody look may really change the perception of the rear end.

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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sin City
Unpopular? The only ones who think it's "unpopular" are C6 owners who realize their car instantly looked "old".

What C6 owners want is a car more like the C6 so that won't happen.

The Malibu has to fight against the Fusion, which is a darn nice looking car (now that they stole the front from Aston Martin).
Yep...

Every time i see those new Fords, the new front ends remind me of Aston Martin.



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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 05:15 AM
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All car designs age even the C7, what I hope this means is that GM will keep the Corvette fresh this time around with styling updates instead of producing the same car for 8 /9 long years. A front and rear clip change would be nice in 3 to four years.

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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RJRSW
GM has already done that with the 63 split window after only one years production because of visibility complaints. I had a brand new 63 split window that I hated to drive after less than 2 weeks because of the poor visibility, noisy and hot interior and after only 6 months traded it for a 64 convert.
And I bet the fact that those split windows are now one of the most collectible corvettes and fetch ridiculous amounts of money at auctions is one of those things that you occasionally kick yourself over for getting rid of it. I never owned one and I kick myself everyonce in a while because i had the opportunity to buy one that had 38,000 original miles on it for $25k in 1998. I loved the look but let my family talk me out of it...instead I bought a 1998 Supra TT, great car but I still wish i would have bought the '63.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 89L98
The C7 is a beautiful, well engineered, high performance sports Car. Why would they change it after one year? They will sell all they can build. Afterrmarket will take care of the small "details". Probably, the hi HP Model will be a little different. But, face it the C7 "look" is what we will have for the forseeable future.


PS- I love my manual, GS as much as the next guy. But, the C6 is yesterday's news. And, I mean that in a respectful way.

I too have to ask "what unpopular elements other than what trolls who exist on this site?

Change is hard to embrace....and the same could be said when the c6 released without pop up headlights....

Time marches on...

Unpopular elements....

The c7 is awesome and as the z06 and zr1 versions rollout ...the hp portion of the equation will be answered (for a price of course)

For those willing to pay....gm will gladly oblige.

Personally zero to 60 mph in less than 4 seconds ..over 1 lateral g in cornering..better braking......better Nvh....more contemporary cutting edge styling.....to most the c7 as it sits right now is leading design...

And I still dig my c6 too...I can still admire the advances the c7 has made for the brand like an adult....
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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I would love to see a Corvette designed by a Forum Committee. It would a C6 with minor tweaks. Nothing ages a design quicker then the new Stingray. Small changes keeps the car looking the same. Big changes do something else. 1962-1963, 1967- 1968. 1984-1997. Each design changed the look...2004 to 2005, not so much.
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Originally Posted by jr3
Yep...

Every time i see those new Fords, the new front ends remind me of Aston Martin.



Not a big surprise because at the time the new Fusion was being designed Ford also owned Aston Martin until 2007
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Originally Posted by Supermassive
And I bet the fact that those split windows are now one of the most collectible corvettes and fetch ridiculous amounts of money at auctions is one of those things that you occasionally kick yourself over for getting rid of it. I never owned one and I kick myself everyonce in a while because i had the opportunity to buy one that had 38,000 original miles on it for $25k in 1998. I loved the look but let my family talk me out of it...instead I bought a 1998 Supra TT, great car but I still wish i would have bought the '63.
No never missed the 63 and would not want it back. I sold my 57 fuelie to buy the 63 split window and I truly regretted that almost immediately and if I were to still have one today it would not even be close it would be the 57. The split window looked great parked but it was not a fun car to drive. The prices peaked years ago on them and have fallen off considerably in value since then.

I owned 3 C2's, a 63 coupe, 64 convert and a 67 AC coupe and none of them were that great but of the three I would rate the convert the highest by far. There was a reason that GM built them for only 5 years which is the shortest period of all 6 generations, they were not that great a car.
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I have owned three C6's, 2006 coupe, 2008 coupe, and 2010 GS vert.
I remember test driving a 2005 then ordering the 2006 Z51, major changes were the steering wheel design and going from an A4 to a A6 automatic. In 2008 the major changes were the NPP and upping the HP from 400 to 436 and adding steering wheel controls. In 2010 they released the GS which I just had to have with the 4LT option. I am sure that the same will happen with the C7, GM marketing will make us believe that the 2015 plus models are greatly improved over the original 2014 first model year.

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Originally Posted by harlold
They were constantly tweaking the C6...
What did they tweak on the base C6 model during the 9-year run?
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Originally Posted by Snorman
What did they tweak on the base C6 model during the 9-year run?
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I'm sure there are more...
Steering wheel
4-spd to 6-spd tranny
Added more stout differential
Wheels/tires
Targa top fixes
Mechanical/electrical/sensor fixes
MSRC generational changes
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
I'm sure there are more...
Steering wheel
4-spd to 6-spd tranny
Added more stout differential
Wheels/tires
Targa top fixes
Mechanical/electrical/sensor fixes
MSRC generational changes
I'm talking about exterior appearance changes. I would expect the C7 to get upgraded components as GM does more testing and implementation of better hardware.
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