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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 04:45 PM
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Getting a z51 C 7. Two options one Mag.ride and the other Navigation.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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X the nav.. I use OnStar turn by turn, don't need to buy disc's and it ( OnStar) is good over most of the country. The monthly cost is less per year than nav,if you figure it out for 4 years. And you don't have to update. As for mag ride, a big yes. does wonders for handling, although I am speaking of a C6. I would guess that the new stuff in the C7 will even be better.

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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Getting both. Nav will help resell for sure if you ever step up. Also, I do not want an option on my 8 inch touchscreen that does nothing for me. Also I am getting the Nav for a good deal!! Getting a heck of a deal here in Richmond va at heritage Chevrolet
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by illiceman11
Getting a z51 C 7. Two options one Mag.ride and the other Navigation.
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Yes and Yes

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X the nav.. I use OnStar turn by turn, don't need to buy disc's and it ( OnStar) is good over most of the country. The monthly cost is less per year than nav,if you figure it out for 4 years. And you don't have to update. As for mag ride, a big yes. does wonders for handling, although I am speaking of a C6. I would guess that the new stuff in the C7 will even be better.
What's $800? Drop in the bucket on a car this price range.
I am a visual type person and need to see where I'm going rather than someone telling me where to go, I have a wife for that!
Plus it's a added benefit when you resell the car.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Select your interior color. 3 levels of trim. I chose 2. I also thought mag ride would be better. Yes, nav because hanging a Garmin from the vents would be tacky. What about wheels?
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rcooper
X the nav.. I use OnStar turn by turn, don't need to buy disc's and it ( OnStar) is good over most of the country. The monthly cost is less per year than nav,if you figure it out for 4 years. And you don't have to update. As for mag ride, a big yes. does wonders for handling, although I am speaking of a C6. I would guess that the new stuff in the C7 will even be better.
You don't need t buy discs. It doesn't have any.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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I opted for both. I think most would say go for the mag ride.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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I do not know your tastes, but they are both a yes for me.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CJJ
Getting both. Nav will help resell for sure if you ever step up. Also, I do not want an option on my 8 inch touchscreen that does nothing for me. Also I am getting the Nav for a good deal!! Getting a heck of a deal here in Richmond va at heritage Chevrolet
Disagree with this. NAV won't do anything for resale. It may be somewhat modern today but in a few years will look pretty obsolete.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Disagree with this. NAV won't do anything for resale. It may be somewhat modern today but in a few years will look pretty obsolete.
I think you might be wrong here, kind of. The nav may not command a higher price, but it would certainly make it easier to sell in 3-4 years.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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I think you might be wrong here, kind of. The nav may not command a higher price, but it would certainly make it easier to sell in 3-4 years.
The C7 NAV unit will not change during the entire C7 model build. GM does not work that way. You will find that within a year or two the 100 dollar units will offer more features or better performance. Thats just the way it is. Its the price of technology. If you really want it get it but don't think it will add value to your car when the NAV unit becomes obsolete.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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Nav can most likely be added later quite easily and probably cheaper as it is just a software install now.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Disagree with this. NAV won't do anything for resale. It may be somewhat modern today but in a few years will look pretty obsolete.
"Joe" is looking at two almost identically equipped C7's except one has Nav. He wants Nav, do you think he will pay slightly more for the one with nav? Or will he go with the one without?

Not saying you'll get your full $800 out of it but you could get more, or even if it's easier to sell the car.


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Nav can most likely be added later quite easily and probably cheaper as it is just a software install now.
I'm sure you can add it later but it's not going to be cheaper that a factory installed option. Why would GM do that to themselves? No one would buy it from the factory and wait!
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I'm getting both. The nav won't add much value at this point since all of the Vettes will come with screens. However, this nav is supposed to be WAY updated and will not be obsolete as fast as others may think.

To put things in perspective, my mom's 2007 navigation isn't the nicest looking Nav anymore, but it certainly still works great. Others have mentioned that they could use their phones for Nav (including myself), but the truth is that it's far less convenient. I use my Google Nav all the time, but I would prefer it to be integrated into the car.

This brings me to my last point: the Nav in the 2014 is fully integrated into both the center cluster screen and the heads up display. Even if the infotainment display showing the nav was ugly, you could change your display back to the radio mode and just use the HUD and cluster screen instead. (Which is how you should do it anyway.)

I'm fairly certain that the map upgrades won't be that expensive anymore. The market is tapped and there's a lot of competition. From what I understand, new maps are less than $100.
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I'm getting both. The nav won't add much value at this point since all of the Vettes will come with screens. However, this nav is supposed to be WAY updated and will not be obsolete as fast as others may think.

To put things in perspective, my mom's 2007 navigation isn't the nicest looking Nav anymore, but it certainly still works great. Others have mentioned that they could use their phones for Nav (including myself), but the truth is that it's far less convenient. I use my Google Nav all the time, but I would prefer it to be integrated into the car.

This brings me to my last point: the Nav in the 2014 is fully integrated into both the center cluster screen and the heads up display. Even if the infotainment display showing the nav was ugly, you could change your display back to the radio mode and just use the HUD and cluster screen instead. (Which is how you should do it anyway.)

I'm fairly certain that the map upgrades won't be that expensive anymore. The market is tapped and there's a lot of competition. From what I understand, new maps are less than $100.
Thats brings up an interesting point. Since bluetooth enables all of us to use our phones as handfree devices in the car it would be an interesting idea if they allowed your smartphone to integrate with the display units and HUD. Then you could use google maps and other products to interact with the car. I can't see this happening with the C7 but maybe with the C8.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Thats brings up an interesting point. Since bluetooth enables all of us to use our phones as handfree devices in the car it would be an interesting idea if they allowed your smartphone to integrate with the display units and HUD. Then you could use google maps and other products to interact with the car. I can't see this happening with the C7 but maybe with the C8.
Bluetooth would have to be far faster for that to work. At the moment, you can't transmit video at any reasonable quality over Bluetooth in real time. Bluetooth is very limited in its bandwidth and speed. That's why Intel started the "WiDi" wireless video standard. That's the only real wireless standard that can carry good quality video wirelessly.

In theory, a Google Maps app could be made for the MyLink system that uses your phone's data connection over Bluetooth. It would be great if they did that, but I don't believe it will ever happen unless GM decides to actually make Google their choice of navigation. The main reason I don't see that happening is because GM will want to make a profit from the navigation. It's hard to do that with a free product.

My biggest "want" at the moment as far as phone-to-car integration is Spotify. I really want Spotify to come up with a MyLink app so I can control the Spotify on my phone with the MyLink display.
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So... If you dont order the Nav what appears on the screen?


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Bluetooth would have to be far faster for that to work. At the moment, you can't transmit video at any reasonable quality over Bluetooth in real time. Bluetooth is very limited in its bandwidth and speed. That's why Intel started the "WiDi" wireless video standard. That's the only real wireless standard that can carry good quality video wirelessly.

In theory, a Google Maps app could be made for the MyLink system that uses your phone's data connection over Bluetooth. It would be great if they did that, but I don't believe it will ever happen unless GM decides to actually make Google their choice of navigation. The main reason I don't see that happening is because GM will want to make a profit from the navigation. It's hard to do that with a free product.

My biggest "want" at the moment as far as phone-to-car integration is Spotify. I really want Spotify to come up with a MyLink app so I can control the Spotify on my phone with the MyLink display.
Thanks for the info. Maybe there will end up being a Google and GM collaboration at some point. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the future.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
The C7 NAV unit will not change during the entire C7 model build. GM does not work that way. You will find that within a year or two the 100 dollar units will offer more features or better performance. Thats just the way it is. Its the price of technology. If you really want it get it but don't think it will add value to your car when the NAV unit becomes obsolete.
With due respect, I think you're missing my point. I didn't assert that the nav unit would change during the C7 model build, my point is only that if two cars for sale in 3-4 years are otherwise identical (one with nav, one without) the car with nav would be easier to sell, though it may not fetch a higher price.

To your other point, the $100 units now have more feature than most in dash units; people typically prefer the in dash units because they look cleaner, better integration with the car, no wires hanging, no suction devices on the window, etc.
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