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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Is the third consensus going to be July 18, or is that just a rumor?
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Anybody know?
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Per my dealer (a forum dealer), yes July 18 and then August 1. Consensus cycles normally start every two weeks. This could, of course, change if there are production issues.
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Is the third consensus going to be July 18, or is that just a rumor?
Yes, tomorrow.
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Any educated guesses on when cars under 3rd consensus will be produced?

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I presume that the FAY constraint is still in effect. Any contrary indication?
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeC4C5C6...C7
Any educated guesses on when cars under 3rd consensus will be produced?

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After the cars from the 2nd consensus are built.
Actually good question since I am hoping to be in there depending on FAY. However, since the cars from the 1st consensus still apparently do not have a TPW it might be tough to say.
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No TPW!!!!? Ok I hate acronyms what the heck is T.P.W...
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target production week, the one of five days* when your car will be started to be built.

* in any given week, unless they go to a six day work week. a car can be started on a Friday as easily as a Monday.
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What's the average time a 'Vette spends on the line once it starts? Then how long does it sit waiting for a hauler?
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It takes 4 days from start to finish per GM at the Bloomington seminar.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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What's the average time a 'Vette spends on the line once it starts? Then how long does it sit waiting for a hauler?
It takes about 36 hours on average to build. The wait time for a hauler is a wide variable. The plant can hold the car indefinitely prior to releasing it to the carrier. The carrier can't move it until the plant passes it and okays the transfer. While this doesn't happen often it can. There can be a supply chain, part or process issue that needs to be resolved before cars are released for shipment. Under normal circumstances it is the same day it comes off the line but it can be the next day. With this being a model changeover, don't expect the norm in this first build cycle. With that said, once the carrier gets the car they hold the car waiting for a hauler to be filled heading to your geographic region. They are allowed to hold the car for up to two weeks (10 business days) to accomplish this. The desire is to ship full trucks. Larger sales regions don't take as long to accomplish this but areas that don't have large dealers of high volumen Corvette sales take longer. I've seen cars ship the next day and I've seen cars sit the full two weeks waiting.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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We will know about the "FAY" option tomorrow. I am on the 2nd consensus and my order is due to be finalized to GM by the end of the week. We are waiting to see if the carbon dash will be available tomorrow. If it is not then I have to decide if I want to wait a few more weeks.
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It takes about 36 hours on average to build. The wait time for a hauler is a wide variable. The plant can hold the car indefinitely prior to releasing it to the carrier. The carrier can't move it until the plant passes it and okays the transfer. While this doesn't happen often it can. There can be a supply chain, part or process issue that needs to be resolved before cars are released for shipment. Under normal circumstances it is the same day it comes off the line but it can be the next day. With this being a model changeover, don't expect the norm in this first build cycle. With that said, once the carrier gets the car they hold the car waiting for a hauler to be filled heading to your geographic region. They are allowed to hold the car for up to two weeks (10 business days) to accomplish this. The desire is to ship full trucks. Larger sales regions don't take as long to accomplish this but areas that don't have large dealers of high volumen Corvette sales take longer. I've seen cars ship the next day and I've seen cars sit the full two weeks waiting.
Any idea how much longer the FAY option will be on constraint?
Thanks much.
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Anyone, know the total cars that will have been allocated after this third consensus?
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Talon90, you obviously know a lot about the process. What is the situation on cars set for Museum delivery? Do they go to a local dealer first for prep or are they prepped at the Museum? Does the proximity between the assembly plant and the Museum significantly shorten delivery times to the customer?
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Yes they go to a local dealer for prep then back to the museum.
It could be quicker or it could actually take longer.
Just depends on what is produced that week and were there are being delivered
But the museum delivery is neat!
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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Any idea how much longer the FAY option will be on constraint?
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As of last week, FAY was listed a a four week or less constraint.
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As of last week, FAY was listed a a four week or less constraint.
Thanks GM'er. What you do is over and above. Enjoy your vacation!
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Originally Posted by Stingray Sam
Talon90, you obviously know a lot about the process. What is the situation on cars set for Museum delivery? Do they go to a local dealer first for prep or are they prepped at the Museum? Does the proximity between the assembly plant and the Museum significantly shorten delivery times to the customer?
Absolutely not. Every Museum delivery car goes directly from the plant to the museum. They travel by hauler just like every other car leaving the plant. The PDI is performed at the museum. If any issues are encountered, the car is returned to the plant for remedy or dealt with at the museum.

As fas as the timing on delivery cars, there is a two week quality quarantine placed on museseum delivery vehicles. This only applies to museum delivery vehicles. Once the car is assembled and passes final inspection, the vehicle is turned over to the transportation company and sequenced for delivery to the museum on a truck. The two week hold effectively starts once the vehicle is cleared for shipment, not necessarily once the vehicle is shipped (all though this can happen on the next day after build). One possible exception to this is when a vehicle is selected for random quality audit and drivability testing which can add another day or so to the time before the transportation occurs. This can happen on vehicles for museum delivery, sold orders for dealer delivery or dealer stock.

In most cases the museum delivered vehicle is going to be the customers only means of transportation home. The quality hold is to ensure that any latent defects are accounted for that may have occured in prodction or with a suppliers lot of parts. The Just In Time nature of the Corvette assembly process means that two weeks will cover most instances where something could go wrong. Why only on museum delivery vehicles? Simply put, if a problem is detected in production after a car is built, that car is otherwise going on a truck to a dealership. This problem can be caught and the car held at the dealership to be repaired. On the museum delivered vehicle, that isn't the case as it is turned over to the customer at the museum and driven away.
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