As long as people are posting factual information about C7 problems I don't think that is an issue. I also don't see a problem with people poking fun at GM's quality concerns with this car. Its fair game.

 

Exactly, and as you say b4 this thread isn't about remedies, it's about the amount of problems/concerns of actual owners. As for GM it isn't about poking fun at them though that may be deserved in certain instances, it's about how they pledged to leave some of their shortcomings in the past and IMO this launch has not done that.

 

GM has been saying since its reorg that the ways of the past are long gone. Nobody on this forum should accept mediocre quality on the Chevy flagship. It bothers me that some people are willing to accept missing parts, bad paint, etc right from the factory. Somebody should be accountable for that. The fact that the car is hot right now does not excuse the factory from sending shoddy cars out the door. If more people refused delivery for a sub-standard product the factory might get the hint.

 

Perfectly stated b4!

 

This thread started out about GM quality control in general. It then turned into another quality control thread about the C7. It was back in the first few pages or so where somebody else pointed it out as well. That's when it was pointless to read any further in my opinion.

 

You might want to read the first post again. Here is but one line from it...

 

Well to discuss it semantically it IS about the C7 yet not a slight against it. Of course this is a C7 forum and the problems we are discussing relate directly to it but also where they stem from, and that is QC @ GM. I specifically stated that this thread was not intended to bash the C7 just discuss why so many complaints keep popping up.

 

Which is fine, but it ultimately turned into just another one of the many threads we have seen before. That's all I am saying. I am not upset or pissed off. Other peoples' opinions have never really bothered me since I do my own thing. But there will be defensive owners of both C6 and C7 Corvettes who inevitably turn things into a pissing contest and render a thread useless.

 

And another thread starts it's slow circling of the drain because ONE poster, who doesn't like the thread, continues to defend his actions.

 

The Mods. and I have allowed this thread to stay open for over 250 replies and thousands of views, so, I don't see where the thread is now going to circle the drain at all because of this "ONE poster."

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't thought about closing it when juvenile off topic comments were being made early on.

For now, it's still creeping along, so enjoy

 

So, ONE unfilled differential became differential(S). One missing door sill became sill(S). Gotta love the internet.
And for those of you who weren't here for the intro of the C6 (which is most of you), DBS (dead battery syndrome) was a RECURRING subject daily for a year.

My early 2005 C6 had some issues, which were dealt with quickly. I never posted about them nor will I post about my C7 convertible when I get it, should it have issues. I'll enjoy my car and leave the attention seeking to someone else.

Jimmy

 

Jimmy now you've got my attention. lol
You just pretty much summed up exactly what this thread is about. I for one wasn't on this planet (this forum...lol) back in 2005 but what you're saying is that the almighty GM couldn't get whatever electrical issue was going on corrected for a year.

Fast forward to Jimmy getting his vert in February. You get your car home and some paint is peeling, things don't line up, more electrical problems and other miscellaneous problems. Are you gong to tell me you're okay with this sub par mediocrity and that you won't be kind enough to let others know on this forum of your cars issues? If you accept the mediocrity than you are validating exactly what is wrong with GM, if you don't let your fellow Corvette enthusiasts know than you're right, posting here is nothing more then a waste of your time and ours!

I wish you nothing but the best with your new car, but we'll never know because you won't tell us if something isn't right! What a shame!!!

 

Jimmy, I get what you are saying, and I had a very early C6, then traded it six months later for my second first year C6 that I kept for two years (before buying two more C6's before I got out). I remember well the issues, and fortunately I was not plagued with a single problem on either of my 05's.

But I was darn glad to read about all the issues people were having so that I could be on the lookout for any potential signs, I would know how to work with my dealer if I did get infected, and I truly believe the forum helped GM in their efforts to correct the problems.

As others have said, I see nothing but good in sharing the information about problems. As long as the posts don't become personal attacks then I like the information we are getting and sharing. The moderators...yes, the ones I said "over moderate" (I see another PM in my future!) have done a good job of working with us on this.

 

Dan,
The reason a lot of folks (myself included) have an issue with this thread is because you seem to reach a conclusion in your first post without having any real numbers and as you can see by the items I have highlighted it is far from an unbiased post. There have clearly been some problems and some things that should not have occurred but as to whether or not it is above what one would expect is inconclusive.

How may cars have been produced and how many owners have experienced issues? Are these issues above what is expected with a new vehicle launch. How many major issues versus minor issues are occurring. No one here can answer these questions with any authority.

 

I don't mean to answer for Big Dan 427 but I see where he is coming from. Please consider that GM has been saying for quite some time now that quality is so important they would delay launch if necessary, nothing will leave the plant that is not perfect, blah blah blah. Obviously that was all just talk. That is the problem some of us have with this. It should not be a roll of the dice to determine if you have a well made vehicle or even if it contains the options you ordered. Why are they letting anything leave the plant that does not measure up ? Those are the questions that should be asked. I am glad some of you have - at least so far - what you feel are no problems. But what if 6 months down the road that illusion is shattered ? I don't think you will be so forgiving of GM. If anybody accepts a car that is not up to snuff just so they can have one of the first ones out the gate I feel you are doing a disservice first to yourself, and secondly to the many C7 future owners. Nobody at this price point should be accepting anything other than first rate quality and GM should be getting this message loud and clear from all of us. Lets quit making excuses no matter how much we like the C7.

 

Dan,
I enjoyed my 2005, like I've enjoyed all of my Corvettes. I do NOT (and did NOT) feel the need to air MY issues with the car, because it certainly got done enough by others. Getting whipped into a frenzy (and whipping a bunch of others into the same frenzy) accomplishes nothing, except to inflame and bring out the ever obnoxious "I told you so" bench racers. As an example, my 2005 convertible had 3 bouts with DBS (dead battery syndrome), there were PLENTY of folks that NEVER had an issue. Believe me, when A problem pops up, the HERD mentality takes over QUICKLY, and before you know it, real and IMAGINED similar problems get reported, some legit and many not. Half the guys that claimed "DBS" in 2005 actually didn't have DBS, they just IGNORED the "shift to reverse" warning, the horn beeps,etc and ran the battery down.

Not posting issues is NOT accepting mediocrity, it's having better things to do with one's time. Is the ONE case of an unfilled differential the NORM? Of course not....now go read the thread covering that "issue" and you would think Tadge and Harlan were on youtube clubbing baby seals. My stance is that this sub-forum has had SO MUCH DRAMA for SO MANY MONTHS that, for me, I would just prefer to revel in the folks that have gotten cars, look at the pictures, and wait for my convertible.

Jimmy

 

No excuses here. I own 1518. Sitting in my garage. Nothing wrong with it not a damn thing. There are many more like mine. Unfortunately some have problems which GM has shown are quick to fix. They have a person Kelly on the Forum to be an advocate for C7 owners. I am not sure what your point is? Other then finding fault like everyone else and everything is perfect. This is the real world and you can not ask for more then a top notch car with excellent service. My question to you is, how is your new C7 Stingray?

 

Okay Jimmy, have a Happy New Year and let us know when your vert gets here.

Here is something to read in the meantime, if you don't have anything better to do sir.
You call it drama, I call it a PO'd customer that has every right to be and is letting his fellow owners and future buyers of his escapade.
No need to respond, have a nice holiday season.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ith-my-c7.html

 

"Finding fault like everyone else and nothing is perfect" ?

All I can say is low expectations are what GM will appreciate from their customers. They won't have my money until they shape up.

 

I'd like to thank you for answering for me! I can't get a grip on how many are defending the inferiority. I guess some are happy with their newly remodeled bathroom even if the sink has a slow leak. Not me, I expect the job to be done right, we all work hard for our money and should be rewarded with what is acceptable.