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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
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Z51 remains at 50%, C2Z is up to 40%, FAY remains at 25%.
Is that for a TPW of 3/10 I assume?
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 07:32 AM
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One thing I wonder, is whether GM needs to keep Z51 at 49% or less total for the year for CAFE reasons? The EPA mileage rating was done with the C7 Base because it must be done with the majority sales model and those models have taller gearing for mileage reasons. If GM produces 55% Z51, how would that affect CAFE?
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
One thing I wonder, is whether GM needs to keep Z51 at 49% or less total for the year for CAFE reasons? The EPA mileage rating was done with the C7 Base because it must be done with the majority sales model and those models have taller gearing for mileage reasons. If GM produces 55% Z51, how would that affect CAFE?
That's a very interesting theory. That could be the reason for such a long wait for some of us, and not just a parts shortage.
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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CAFE standards are averaged across the entire line of vehicles of a manufacturer not just a particular one and its derivatives.

As such, I would tend to doubt that the Z51 alone would significantly affect that average
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GM and others did fib about the horsepower numbers back in the late 60's and 70's to keep insurance cost down so more younger people could buy those muscle cars.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
CAFE standards are averaged across the entire line of vehicles of a manufacturer not just a particular one and its derivatives.
As such, I would tend to doubt that the Z51 alone would significantly affect that average
Automakers are fighting for 1/10th of 1 mpg on CAFE, so if it affects it even 0.01 mpg they will do it.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
CAFE standards are averaged across the entire line of vehicles of a manufacturer not just a particular one and its derivatives.

As such, I would tend to doubt that the Z51 alone would significantly affect that average
They did it during the C5 run, constraining the Z51 with the A4, as it changed the rear end from a 2.73 to a 3.15. They also constrained the Performance Axle (3.15), as a stand alone option. It was done purely for CAFE reasons. The Z51 with the M6 was not constrained, because it had no gearing changes.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:02 AM
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Anything over 30% take rate affects govt ratings/regs.

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