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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 07:43 PM
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Entire threads have been devoted to the horrible C7 nav, like this thread ...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...m-795-pos.html

After 5 months, I would have to agree. There are so many shortcomings, but the worst, IMO, is the auto zoom in/out, which I find disorienting. Worst of all, it cannot be turned off, at least as far as I know.

Another shortcoming, or so I thought, is that it doesn't show the current street. Except, as I discovered by accident, that it does, if you know the trick. Simply press the car icon and the current street and city appear.

Apologies to those who already knew this, or if this was previously posted.
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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Entire threads have been devoted to the horrible C7 nav, like this thread ...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...m-795-pos.html

After 5 months, I would have to agree. There are so many shortcomings, but the worst, IMO, is the auto zoom in/out, which I find disorienting. Worst of all, it cannot be turned off, at least as far as I know.

Another shortcoming, or so I thought, is that it doesn't show the current street. Except, as I discovered by accident, that it does, if you know the trick. Simply press the car icon and the current street and city appear.

Apologies to those who already knew this, or if this was previously posted.
I agree but I've seen worst in more expensive cars. It would be nice if you could just have a Google Maps app on the screen. Never have to buy an update.
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I agree but I've seen worst in more expensive cars. It would be nice if you could just have a Google Maps app on the screen. Never have to buy an update.
Sounds like you want a Dodge Dart
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Sounds like you want a Dodge Dart
No, just think about it. You spend about $1000 on a nav option, then keep up with updates for $150+- a year. If you have a 2015 with the WiFi, all you would need is a Google Map app.

I had a 2013 BMW 535i and the nav wasn't even touch screen.
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by grandpawmoses
No, just think about it. You spend about $1000 on a nav option, then keep up with updates for $150+- a year. If you have a 2015 with the WiFi, all you would need is a Google Map app.

I had a 2013 BMW 535i and the nav wasn't even touch screen.
What is the monthly or annual cost for the WiFi connection?
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No, just think about it. You spend about $1000 on a nav option, then keep up with updates for $150+- a year. If you have a 2015 with the WiFi, all you would need is a Google Map app.
I'm serious, the Dodge Dart uses Google Maps. I'm glad I opted for the nav system, but Google Maps is without a doubt my favorite mapping software.
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What is the monthly or annual cost for the WiFi connection?
I do not know, I have a 2014 so it's not possible through the car. I do have unlimited data on my smart phone that has a Bluetooth connection. Zero dollars maybe?
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My 2011 Challenger RT has factory Garmin. There are some features on the stingrays nav that the garmin base does not have, hooks into OnStar and some other things, overall I would be significantly happier if the stingray had the same garmin foundation.

Google maps, meh. It's fine. Garmin is pretty hard to beat.
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My 2011 Challenger RT has factory Garmin. There are some features on the stingrays nav that the garmin base does not have, hooks into OnStar and some other things, overall I would be significantly happier if the stingray had the same garmin foundation.

Google maps, meh. It's fine. Garmin is pretty hard to beat.
I agree 100%. So on a long trip, do you use the GM nav, the Garmin or both and have another stupid cord hanging down. I have my R/D hard wired, blue tooth on phone, my two way radio hard wired and I really don't my Garmin hanging down.
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I use the navigation system all the time, even when not set up for a specific destination. I find it easy to use with many features your hand held Garmin doesn't have. I did spend considerable time reading the manual and experimenting with the unit to get the most from the system.
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Originally Posted by SASprof

Another shortcoming, or so I thought, is that it doesn't show the current street. Except, as I discovered by accident, that it does, if you know the trick. Simply press the car icon and the current street and city appear.

Apologies to those who already knew this, or if this was previously posted.
Thank you for posting this. That was driving me crazy and I didn't see anything in the manual (although I easily could have just missed it). That was the big thing I missed about my CTS Nav. That and it also would show the next cross street which is amazingly helpful in residential areas where the small streets sneak up on you. If anyone knows that trick on the C7 please chime in.
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Originally Posted by Algiers
Thank you for posting this. That was driving me crazy and I didn't see anything in the manual (although I easily could have just missed it). That was the big thing I missed about my CTS Nav. That and it also would show the next cross street which is amazingly helpful in residential areas where the small streets sneak up on you. If anyone knows that trick on the C7 please chime in.
While under guidance, if you press inside the Next Turn box on the right side of the screen, it will switch the screen to show several upcoming turns. Alternatively, zooming in will show cross streets.
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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While under guidance, if you press inside the Next Turn box on the right side of the screen, it will switch the screen to show several upcoming turns. Alternatively, zooming in will show cross streets.
Thanks. Zooming is a good alternative idea. I wonder if there's a trick to show the next exits when you're on a freeway. That was another thing the Cadillac spoiled me on. It showed the next 3 exits with distance and would bring up the POIs if you had that selected. It's not a big deal of course but you kind of get used to those type of extra conveniences.
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Garmin is number one in the GPS business. Google Maps is probably number two. I have Google Maps in my Audi A6 and it works good but still not as good as my Garmin.
GM has always been way behind the curve on GPS units. For what you pay they should update the GPS every year for at least the warranty period!
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The system is somewhat clunky and requires some study and patience, but it is functional and useful. Fortunately, we live in Kentucky and made a trip to the museum and the folks there worked with us to help us understand it and after a couple of hours we had it pretty much nailed. I do prefer Garmin, but all the bells and whistles with this system are nice and the big screen is a plus. We also carry an iPad with us on trips and we use Waze on it and have found it to be very helpful, particularly for traffic issues. If you want you can contract for the push navigation from onstar which is really nice.
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In spite of the oft mentioned shortcomings, I like my NAV. Good to know about the trick to force display of the current street. But but the time I get to drive my car again, that trick will have been forgotten.
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Originally Posted by grandpawmoses
I had a 2013 BMW 535i and the nav wasn't even touch screen.
I don't like touch screens at all.

I feel they are inherently more dangerous to use while driving than systems like MB and BMW which mostly use a large "mouse-wheel" to navigate the system.

For touch screen, you have to take your eyes off the road, search for the screen location, move your hand and coordinate your finger to a sometimes small specific target and press a usually less than responsive screen, sometimes more than once to execute a single task. If you are on a separate menu from what you want to do, you may have to do this several times.

With the "mouse-wheel", once learned, you simply put your hand on the controller once, whip around a menu or two and you're done. No "hunt and peck" at 70 mph. Now that MB and BMW have added a couple of the more traditional buttons and ***** back to the dash for frequently accessed items, I think both are approaching perfection.
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I don't like touch screens at all.

I feel they are inherently more dangerous to use while driving than systems like MB and BMW which mostly use a large "mouse-wheel" to navigate the system.

For touch screen, you have to take your eyes off the road, search for the screen location, move your hand and coordinate your finger to a sometimes small specific target and press a usually less than responsive screen, sometimes more than once to execute a single task. If you are on a separate menu from what you want to do, you may have to do this several times.

With the "mouse-wheel", once learned, you simply put your hand on the controller once, whip around a menu or two and you're done. No "hunt and peck" at 70 mph. Now that MB and BMW have added a couple of the more traditional buttons and ***** back to the dash for frequently accessed items, I think both are approaching perfection.
(?????). I have never used a mouse-wheel so don't know. I would think you still take you eyes off the road so no gain there. The only down fall of the touch screen is finger prints. I always have iPhone, iPad, and the car all figured up!
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Originally Posted by Rad22
I don't like touch screens at all.

With the "mouse-wheel", once learned, you simply put your hand on the controller once, whip around a menu or two and you're done. No "hunt and peck" at 70 mph. Now that MB and BMW have added a couple of the more traditional buttons and ***** back to the dash for frequently accessed items, I think both are approaching perfection.
"Perfection" is the system used in my 2010 Mercury Milan -- it is absolutely intuitive. Never necessitated plunging into the (extensive) manual to figure out how to do stuff, it was always quite logical and natural. Touch screen system.

Wish they all could be like that one.

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(?????). I have never used a mouse-wheel so don't know. I would think you still take you eyes off the road so no gain there. The only down fall of the touch screen is finger prints. I always have iPhone, iPad, and the car all figured up!
I disagree.

With a touch screen, the attention of the brain not only needs to be diverted from the road for looking at the screen (admittedly necessary for both types) but also an entire second distracting operation of raising your finger to the screen, searching the screen for the correct virtual button, pressing the button, and then repeating that same additional action for each subsequent sub screen down the menu. I find it quite distracting.

With the mouse wheel, your hand never leaves the mouse wheel and you simply have to glance at the screen for a much shorter period of time.
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