2016 deliveries
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Just got a call from my dealer who talked to GM this morning regarding ship/delivery ETA. He told me that GM told him the '16s are all on Quality Hold and they wouldn't give him a date when they are expected to be released, much less when they would be scheduled for ship. With what looks to be 100+ cars per day coming off the line, they could have a pretty big backup for shipping by the end of the month. The experts who have gone through this before are probably right - we'll be luck to see our new '16s by the end of July earliest.
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Just got a call from my dealer who talked to GM this morning regarding ship/delivery ETA. He told me that GM told him the '16s are all on Quality Hold and they wouldn't give him a date when they are expected to be released, much less when they would be scheduled for ship. With what looks to be 100+ cars per day coming off the line, they could have a pretty big backup for shipping by the end of the month. The experts who have gone through this before are probably right - we'll be luck to see our new '16s by the end of July earliest.
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
Don't understand the rationale.of holding hundreds of cars for QC. Can someone explain?
The logic is that there are dozens of changes to the car for the new model year. We are only publicly made aware of a small amount. If a problem is discovered it gives them time to make the necessary adjustments before cars ship. Happens every new model year. In 2014 for the first year of the C7 it was 4 weeks.
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From what I have read and been told:
The logic is that there are dozens of changes to the car for the new model year. We are only publicly made aware of a small amount. If a problem is discovered it gives them time to make the necessary adjustments before cars ship. Happens every new model year. In 2014 for the first year of the C7 it was 4 weeks.
The logic is that there are dozens of changes to the car for the new model year. We are only publicly made aware of a small amount. If a problem is discovered it gives them time to make the necessary adjustments before cars ship. Happens every new model year. In 2014 for the first year of the C7 it was 4 weeks.
My friend's 2009 Z06 was the 75th 2009 car built(VIN 00075) and it was built on the first day of 2009 production in June, 2008. The dealership in Springfield, MO received his Z06(along with several other 2009's) at the end of June, 2008 and he was driving the car before July 4, 2008.
My 2009 Z06 was built a week later than his(end of June, 2008), but got caught up in the early July plant shutdown(nothing to do with a QC hold), and had to wait for a full load for the truck transporter heading my way(since two weeks of no production occurred during the plant shut down, there were not enough cars to fill the trucks), so the dealer in Springfield, didn't receive the car until July 25, 2008 and I was driving it on July 28, 2008.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
No it doesn't. The 2009 C6's had a lot more mechanical changes from the 2008's than the 2016's have from the 2015's.
My friend's 2009 Z06 was the 75th 2009 car built(VIN 00075) and it was built on the first day of 2009 production in June, 2008. The dealership in Springfield, MO received his Z06(along with several other 2009's) at the end of June, 2008 and he was driving the car before July 4, 2008.
My 2009 Z06 was built a week later than his(end of June, 2008), but got caught up in the early July plant shutdown(nothing to do with a QC hold), and had to wait for a full load for the truck transporter heading my way, so the dealer in Springfield, didn't receive the car until July 25, 2008 and I was driving it on July 28, 2008.
My friend's 2009 Z06 was the 75th 2009 car built(VIN 00075) and it was built on the first day of 2009 production in June, 2008. The dealership in Springfield, MO received his Z06(along with several other 2009's) at the end of June, 2008 and he was driving the car before July 4, 2008.
My 2009 Z06 was built a week later than his(end of June, 2008), but got caught up in the early July plant shutdown(nothing to do with a QC hold), and had to wait for a full load for the truck transporter heading my way, so the dealer in Springfield, didn't receive the car until July 25, 2008 and I was driving it on July 28, 2008.
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GM stopped shipping Corvettes by rail around 15 years ago, and then started back shipping by rail in late 2013(2014 models).
There was a long period that Corvettes did not ship by rail, and what has happened during the past two years cannot be considered as "always".
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Things are a bit different here in Canada, since we only get about 1500 Corvettes per year, if a single dealer was able to get 40 of them they would be considered one of the largest around!
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This is correct. Every OEM I have worked with does this. I think a better term is quarantine rather than QC hold. The duration of the quarantine is not fixed. Depending on what is found on early evaluation vehicles and daily QC inspections, the hold could be longer.
The OEMs want to correct as many new model/part/assembly process bugs as they possibly can prior to releasing the cars for shipment to dealers and final customers.
Many years ago, I was the manager for an electronic part which was new for start of production at one of the OEMs (not GM). Unfortunately, we found a software bug during testing of the early evaluation cars. It was not fun going to the plant manager's office and explaining why he could not ship his lot full of cars. All of them had to be reworked prior to being released. It is much easier to make sure all of them get updated when they are quarantined at the plant vs in transit to dealers or in customer's hands.
The OEMs want to correct as many new model/part/assembly process bugs as they possibly can prior to releasing the cars for shipment to dealers and final customers.
Many years ago, I was the manager for an electronic part which was new for start of production at one of the OEMs (not GM). Unfortunately, we found a software bug during testing of the early evaluation cars. It was not fun going to the plant manager's office and explaining why he could not ship his lot full of cars. All of them had to be reworked prior to being released. It is much easier to make sure all of them get updated when they are quarantined at the plant vs in transit to dealers or in customer's hands.
From what I have read and been told:
The logic is that there are dozens of changes to the car for the new model year. We are only publicly made aware of a small amount. If a problem is discovered it gives them time to make the necessary adjustments before cars ship. Happens every new model year. In 2014 for the first year of the C7 it was 4 weeks.
The logic is that there are dozens of changes to the car for the new model year. We are only publicly made aware of a small amount. If a problem is discovered it gives them time to make the necessary adjustments before cars ship. Happens every new model year. In 2014 for the first year of the C7 it was 4 weeks.
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Just got a call from my dealer who talked to GM this morning regarding ship/delivery ETA. He told me that GM told him the '16s are all on Quality Hold and they wouldn't give him a date when they are expected to be released, much less when they would be scheduled for ship. With what looks to be 100+ cars per day coming off the line, they could have a pretty big backup for shipping by the end of the month. The experts who have gone through this before are probably right - we'll be luck to see our new '16s by the end of July earliest.
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Always ????
GM stopped shipping Corvettes by rail around 15 years ago, and then started back shipping by rail in late 2013(2014 models).
There was a long period that Corvettes did not ship by rail, and what has happened during the past two years cannot be considered as "always".
GM stopped shipping Corvettes by rail around 15 years ago, and then started back shipping by rail in late 2013(2014 models).
There was a long period that Corvettes did not ship by rail, and what has happened during the past two years cannot be considered as "always".
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I was doing the first day of the Buyer's Tour today. My guide had me look through the water testing station when the garage door opens up for the car to go in the back lot. I could see a sea of white covered C7's. My sequence # is 1112 and from what I could see, which was only a portion of the rows of C7's out there, it didn't appear that one had even shipped. If I can get a better look tomorrow I will try to do a count of them. It was staggering how many were in the back lot. I hope they start letting them go!
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When I was at the plant a month ago, one person in our group asked the tour guide how many Corvettes were produced last year. The guide hesitated a few seconds and then said "47,000". He was only off by approximately 10,000 cars.