Just Wow!! Car and Driver October Mag Cover
09-10-2015, 06:50 AM
#22
Safety Car
There's some threads on this over on the C7 Z06 forum, one of them with 25,000 views. Some interesting commentary in that one. Also a thread with images of the complete article if you want to read the whole thing.
09-10-2015, 10:03 AM
#26
Safety Car
Given that very few of those cars will ever see track duty, tests like this are more about bragging rights than anything else. And we don't actually know how the McLaren, Lambo, et all would stand up to multiple laps on a really hot day, do we?
There will be a huge difference. Far better brakes and tires, stiffer suspension, lighter weight (except maybe the NASCAR stocker), and geometry and gearing optimized for the track not the street.
Here are the lap records for various SCCA classes. The Swift Formula Atlantic is down to 1:45, and it's a slowpoke compared to an Indy car. Current Indy cars put out about 550 - 700 hp depending on the boost setting and weight less than 1600 pounds. Formula Atlantic cars about 240 hp and about 1250 lbs.
http://www.ncrscca.com/ncrscca/sites...0RECORDS_0.pdf
An FA car will corner at 3Gs, an Indycar about 4.5 a Corvette a bit over 1G. 80-0 in under 100 feet vs. 60-0 in about 100 feet. I couldn't find brake performance data for Indy car, but here's an interesting (if dated) comparison of an older F1 car against a BMW M5.
Simply put, race cars are world apart on the track compared to even the highest performance street cars.
Here are the lap records for various SCCA classes. The Swift Formula Atlantic is down to 1:45, and it's a slowpoke compared to an Indy car. Current Indy cars put out about 550 - 700 hp depending on the boost setting and weight less than 1600 pounds. Formula Atlantic cars about 240 hp and about 1250 lbs.
http://www.ncrscca.com/ncrscca/sites...0RECORDS_0.pdf
An FA car will corner at 3Gs, an Indycar about 4.5 a Corvette a bit over 1G. 80-0 in under 100 feet vs. 60-0 in about 100 feet. I couldn't find brake performance data for Indy car, but here's an interesting (if dated) comparison of an older F1 car against a BMW M5.
Simply put, race cars are world apart on the track compared to even the highest performance street cars.
09-10-2015, 12:10 PM
#29
Racer
It saw a curve and went crying back to the drag strip.
I'm amazed the z/28 didn't just go sliding off every curve also, I guess putting 11 inch wide tires on the front makes up for a lack of cornering refinement.
I'm amazed the z/28 didn't just go sliding off every curve also, I guess putting 11 inch wide tires on the front makes up for a lack of cornering refinement.
Last edited by efarley; 09-10-2015 at 12:12 PM.
09-10-2015, 12:24 PM
#30
Team Owner
09-10-2015, 01:57 PM
#33
Pro
They mentioned in the article they had requested one from Chrysler but that Chrysler had declined to provide one. Not a chance the Hellcat is going to win on a road track against the Z06, hell I have seen base C7's beat them on the dragstrip, forget the Z06. Far too heavy to corner well. Hellcat is just about laying claim to all that HP, whether it actually does you any good, not really.
09-10-2015, 10:09 PM
#34
Le Mans Master
Car and Driver is all about selling magazines. I remember when the C6 Z06 was in its first few years they gushed about how great it was. It was not long before they started to slam it for issues that were there from the beginning. I suspect the same will happen with the C7 Z06. They will gush about it and then they will slam it. This sells magazines. Thats what they do.
09-10-2015, 10:22 PM
#35
Team Owner
Post this over in Other Cars and they'll say that because you don't race cars all those times are bs, only people who race their cars can validate those times, all others are just waxers.
