Engine being replaced
The background:
Bought the 2014 Z51 C7 used from a dealer at the end of 2014; original owner bought it earlier that year, drove it 3,000 kms, then traded it in on a 2015 (lots of money, wanted the latest auto tranny). So when I bought it, it was virtually new. Put 7,000 kms on it end of 2014 and 2015 up until now. No issues with it, drove perfectly.
Driving to work a couple weeks ago I noticed it sort of accelerating/decelerating at light throttle around 70 kph. It kept coming and going. I switched the display to show when it was in 4 cyl mode and found that whenever it was in 4 cyl mode it was like the engine didn't have quite enough power and the car was decelerating a bit. Then a bit of throttle, back into 8cyl mode and it was fine. So this was going on continuously for maybe 5 minutes. It wasn't a huge difference, but I could feel that something was wrong. When I got on a street with a higher speed limit and was doing 80 - 100 kph it seemed better. It might have been just that it wasn't switching into 4 cyl mode as much, or the higher speed was masking it.
So, about another 10 minutes or so I stop at a light. Now my other car is a Prius (insert laugh here) so I am used to the engine shutting off when stopped. So my mind didn't click in right away that I wasn't in the Prius and the engine shouldn't be stopped; yes, it had stalled. I went to restart it and it cranked very, very slowly like the battery was almost dead. But when it stopped cranking the lights came on full bright as if the battery was fine. Tried it a couple more times then stopped when I smelled something burning/overheating.
I called CAA and a flat-bed took me to the dealer, which is convenient since I drive past it each day to and from work. Dropped it off and they gave me a loner car; I was surprised at that, didn't expect it. Some sort of black Caddy SUV thing.
Got a call later in the day and I asked how the patient was doing. "the patient is very sick. The starter is shot from trying to crank the engine, and the engine seems to not turn over so it is likely shot too". That's all they knew at that point. I was told that they were short-handed and it might be a little longer than normal to see what is wrong. They had handled everything very nicely so I wasn't upset at that.
Got a call from the service manager a couple days later to tell me he had ordered a new engine. The old one wasn't out yet, but it was obviously damaged internally, so a new one was coming in. He said he talked to "GM" (don't know who that means, but must be a head office) and they had no problem with the new engine. He said they would take the engine apart there to see what was wrong and I was welcome to come in at that point to see it.
A couple more days go by and the engine is out but not apart yet. The manager tells me to come in and see it anyways as it isn't often you see one with the engine out. I was surprised when I saw it that they drop the whole front cradle out, engine and suspension. It did give me a chance to see things you don't normally see. He pointed out what had just come it.....new engine sitting there! He said that GM had called to say not to take the old engine apart, just to send it to them for the tear-down and inspection. He said he would get a report from them when that was done and would let me know. The old engine will turn over, but it takes a fair bit of effort.
Anyways, that is where it stands. The car/engine had just under 10,000 kms on it. No warning lights or strange behavior up until that morning. Am I upset? Not really. Everything is being handled very well, and I get a brand new engine!
I'll keep you posted if I learn anything new.
Rick
Last edited by Steve Garrett; Sep 13, 2015 at 02:58 PM. Reason: No need to requote the OP, especially when you're the next person posting.
And what you would "rather" have doesn't really matter. GM is going to give you what "they" want, not what "you" want.
Not much difference between a long block and a complete crate motor. All the accessories on the outside of the engine have nothing to do with whatever caused the failure, so reusing them doesn't really matter.
And what you would "rather" have doesn't really matter. GM is going to give you what "they" want, not what "you" want.
Not much difference between a long block and a complete crate motor. All the accessories on the outside of the engine have nothing to do with whatever caused the failure, so reusing them doesn't really matter.





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Might want to have them flush it even if they don't find debris.
Last edited by Skidplate; Sep 13, 2015 at 04:12 PM. Reason: added verbage
And what you would "rather" have doesn't really matter. GM is going to give you what "they" want, not what "you" want.
Not much difference between a long block and a complete crate motor. All the accessories on the outside of the engine have nothing to do with whatever caused the failure, so reusing them doesn't really matter.
This isn't rocket science. Backyard mechanics have been replacing short / long blocks for decades. Even a dealer mechanic should be able to do this. It's not like they're going inside the block. Heck, if I had the right tools, the shop manual, and a way to lift the car and drop the engine I could probably do it.


















