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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
If you've ever driven a manual car in bumper to bumper traffic every single day, no matter how much you love shifting for yourself it eventually becomes a real chore. When I purchased my C5 back in 2004 I was working in downtown Toronto, a 50 mile commute round trip, in probably the worst traffic in North America. So that car had to be automatic, for my own sanity. When I traded it for a C6 in 2013, I was no longer working downtown so I went back to a manual this time. But occasionally I do get stuck in brutal traffic, and I realize it's just not fun under those conditions. When I know I'm going to face bad stop and go traffic, I don't drive my Corvette. So it sucks to have to make that choice.

When I get my C7 next year, it's going to be automatic. I will miss shifting for myself for sure, but now I can take the car anytime I want and also my wife can drive it too (she really misses driving a Corvette, and she's helping pay for it!!)

PS-I can't believe I'm sticking up for Thunder22 after all the crap he gives me for being a Lewis Hamilton fan!

F you , no one asked you to agree with me, and Louise sucks

(there, feel better? :p )

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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 10:51 AM
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F you , no one asked you to agree with me, and Louise sucks

(there, feel better? :p )
That's more like it!
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 05:28 PM
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Default AFM cels...

mine throws codes when left in and not removed. I do know that on start up the ecu cycles thru those actuators and if it sees that they are open by having AFM delete in and cannot cycle, al la a code of many colors...

i start mine, then plug in Range then unplug it before I turn car off, no codes. Mine is brand new not even 2 weeks old and the 2nd day of use the next morning after leaving it in full time, codes. Fwiw

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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 06:08 PM
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I had the same experience.
mine has thrown the CEL twice and both time I had forgotten to unplug it when I shut the car off.
I can kinda understand it confusing the ECM on startup but it's kind of a pain having to remember to unplug it
Otherwise works perfectly
I also have one of those dongles that let you clear the codes from a cellphone
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Handy
mine throws codes when left in and not removed. I do know that on start up the ecu cycles thru those actuators and if it sees that they are open by having AFM delete in and cannot cycle, al la a code of many colors...

i start mine, then plug in Range then unplug it before I turn car off, no codes. Mine is brand new not even 2 weeks old and the 2nd day of use the next morning after leaving it in full time, codes. Fwiw

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Originally Posted by drobbins
I had the same experience.
mine has thrown the CEL twice and both time I had forgotten to unplug it when I shut the car off.
I can kinda understand it confusing the ECM on startup but it's kind of a pain having to remember to unplug it
Otherwise works perfectly
I also have one of those dongles that let you clear the codes from a cellphone
I"m sending mine back for a refund. When they get the firmware right and it doesn't throw codes, i'll buy it again.
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 06:25 PM
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I took a buddy to the races at VIR about a month ago and in my excitement when we got there I forgot to unplug it.
When we got ready to leave it threw the code
Pretty embarassing
fortunately I had that dongle to reset it and he didn't really understand what I was doing
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by drobbins
I took a buddy to the races at VIR about a month ago and in my excitement when we got there I forgot to unplug it.
When we got ready to leave it threw the code
Pretty embarassing
fortunately I had that dongle to reset it and he didn't really understand what I was doing

You can also unplug the Range module, start the car, and then plug it back in and it will clear the active codes.
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 07:35 PM
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If that's true does it also clear code thrown for other reasons?
Not that I have any other codes but if I did I think I'd want to know about them before some gadget cleared them out
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by drobbins
If that's true does it also clear code thrown for other reasons?
Not that I have any other codes but if I did I think I'd want to know about them before some gadget cleared them out
Here is a link to the Range FAQ item about CEL/DTCs and my take is it will clear ALL of the current DTCs (but not from history). I wouldn't use this procedure unless there was NOT a CEL prior to the Range "event".

https://rangetechnology.zendesk.com/...-Engine-Lights

Until Range figures this out I think the best way to use their module is either use the switched OBD-II cable to turn it on after startup or build the circuit suggested by Flame Red if you want it to work automatically. I have been driving in manual mode but to me it isn't a big deal to switch the module on and off if I want to use it. To me it is no different than having to turn the seat fans back on when I start up.

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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 07:48 PM
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I've been driving in manual mode mostly and coming to like it but if I want to drive in auto I just plug it in after startup. Should be the same as the on/off switch. I don't find plugging it in to be much trouble
Thanks for the link
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 08:39 PM
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Plugging/unplugging it every time you start/stop car creates a significant amount of wear/tear on the port that it wasn't designed for.

And using the switch, is a pain in the ***.

Everyone is entitled to do as they please, but it's not worth the hassle for me. I'll buy it again once they have it fixed.

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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 08:48 PM
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I'm right there with ya! Pain and I also expect to plug it in, not have to worry about battery drain, and have zero cels. Paid $200 from corvette mods. I've even considered buying the diablo tuner just to turn off AFM but I just paid a chunk for mods to carbon up some engine covers for me. I'll continue supporting corvette mods and not return it just yet. I sure do love though the way it drives with the Range in, so freaking smooth!!! Worth the hastle for that glass smooth ride, a totally different car for me. I even unplug my 9s Windbooster when I use the Range, dig that smooth and strong feel!

Brian in Bakersfield...
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Old Jul 14, 2017 | 01:51 PM
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Quick update:

I ordered the comparable Diablo device (Sprint s1000), should be here on Tuesday. It doesn't change the tune, plugs into the OBD2 port etc etc.

I'll report back once I have a chance to try it.

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