Is it that simple? I'm under strict orders to not let rpm's come above 2500 while the racing oil is still dead cold. Do you happen to know what rpm in 1st that 14-18mph window is? I don't, but I know from feels it's about 2krpm.

So unless I let the clutch out in first and immediately re-engage it to shift to 2nd that "2k" rpm comes quick! And I can't go to the back side of it because I am getting close to my 2500rpm dealer limit.

I used to start in 2nd while it was warming up, but would sometimes forget. 15w-50 oil is annoying but it saves having to put 5w-30 back in it after track events.

 

The light will flash if you try to shift below 18 miles per hour, and only after the engine is warmed up.. It does not engage when you are warming up.

Usually, when people install the defeat resistor, they use a plastic zip tie to secure the connector and the wiring harness to the transmission. Connector cap is put on the solenoid to keep dust and dirt out of the connector.

 

Yes, it is just that simple. Since you're running track spec oil, when cold, just shift at 10-12 mph, you are well under 2K, and you will not be forced into a 1-4 shift.

 

That is not correct. The light will only come on between 14-18 mph.

 

See Below Link for One that says there is-good study, statistically sound!

To disturb a few more electrons here is a very compelling study by the small County of Modac California in an over 2 year test of 1648 cars with “deer whistles” of several types and 6650 without. It was a statistically sound study NOT conducted or paid for a deer whistle company or some of the stuff published by professors who sound more like deer psychologists or troopers with their subjective opinions:
http://www.homeproductsnmore.net/dee...odocCounty.pdf

If you read it those “scientific type” will see that in a Chi Square Test of the results there is a 99.94% change that they worked. For those non-statistics majors that means the odds that this was purely a random result are about 1 in 1000! Here is a quick summary:
First it was paid for by the California Office of Traffic Safety (not a Deer Whistle Company!!).
Second it involved a real world tests in a county with lots of deer and a previous record of deer/vehicle collisions. Their method was simple. They advertised to give free deer whistles to as many who would install them until they hit ½ the cars in the county. They only reached 1648 out of the 8300 registered vehicles in the county but that was enough to reach statistically sound results. Summarizing the results:
In a two year period the cars without the Deer Whistles hit 29 Deer. Those with the Deer whistles hit none! (don’t have to be a statistician to see where this is going!) Since there were more folks without whistles you would expect them to hit more. But statistically using the ratio of cars with and without to deer hit by those without yields 1648/6652 x 29 there should have been 7.2 Deer Hit by cars with whistles if they were not effective.

 

And many more studies than that one showing them completely ineffective. A single study is never definitive. It's the body of scientific work replicated over and over that produces compelling results. The majority of studies have shown negative results. I've also seen studies where the results showed they actually increased auto/deer collisions.

As I scientist, I can see many methodological flaws in that study just from your description. There are no controls for exposure, and it wasn't a randomly selected sample.

 

I wasn't saying that about the OP who asked ligament questions it was folks who tell us who use them we are foolish! If the shoe fits...! As I recall some folks say the same for us who use catch cans and don't want to and justify it by saying they don't work.

Similar to those who think some of us are foolish to add a $5 deer whistle when there is some evidence that they do work! I live on a twisty 2 miles road with woods on one side and a lake and homes on the other. Deer are always crossing to eat our plants. They are as bad as squirrels but not as smart! One crosses and the others cross behind regardless of cars etc. I use them!

You can do as you wish just let others do the same!

PS: Glad to see you're a scientist I am also and managed a large R&D group for half my career! In fact have 6 patents since I retired in 1999 and the income from selling and licensing pays for my toys! Didn't say my catch can stopped all "coking" or there was a probability deer whistles for sure work. Cheap insurance in case they do IMO!

 

I have a better idea. Get an automatic and you can manually shift at any time into any gear, well no low speed restrictions anyway

 

Don't put words in my mouth, Jerry. I never said people who used them were foolish. You write lots of words on this forum, and I assume you can read the words of others.

I'm expressing my opinion just like you and everyone else here. Some people think they're great, others find them unnecessary. I simply don't understand how something so trivial is perceived by some as so necessary. Why do I have any less right to express my opinion as someone suggesting the car is undriveable without?

I did call you on what I thought was your over the top statement, that you "wouldn't drive without" a CAGS defeat. I didn't say it at the time, but my thought was, wow, if you find that little thing distracting enough to park the car, you probably shouldn't be driving a manual at all . . . talk about a "distraction."

 

no thanks! I would rather use the CAGS delete thing and then not have to worry about cylinder deactivation at any time either!

 

Yes, in between torque converter replacements.

 

My torque converter works just fine.

 

So far . . .

 

Don't mean to say you should not express your opinion, I like the forum because I get different opinions. To disturb a few more electrons I'll provide a picture that may help some understand one reason I think my $20 investment was worth it!

To get this out of a personal issue here is one of my my reasons for using in on the C7 where it is not as bad as the C6 where I also added one.

I live in a rural area so seldom have to deal with bumper-to-bumper traffic. I did not install an eliminator at initially. My first encounter with waiting several lights I took off in first and when I went to shift to 2nd and wondered way it wouldn't go in! Since I have never experienced it with my C6 (where I had a CAGS Eliminator for 6 years) I was surprised and car slowed quite a bit before I realized I was in the 1st to 4th forced shift. Had the person behind moved when I did and then got a beep on their phone they may have been compelled to look down and see who sent a text etc. They could have been in my rear!

I have never had an accident with another car in over 50 years of driving-I work hard to maintain that record. Not easy with today's distracted driving. By the way every DD I have owned was a standard shift!



Like Pavlov's dogs, today for some folks a phone beeping is a learned conditioned response! They have to look if not answer. Just don't want my car to slow unexpectedly when the person behind has one that beeps!

 

They have it eco mode I believe.

 

 

I agree that the CAGS is not necessary. I don't pay any attention to it at all, and I've never had to deal with it.


Regardless, this M7 vs. M7 arguing has got to stop!!!


The A8 guys would be (are) laughing at us if (when) they read this...


and by definition, a problem/issue doesn't get any more first world than this. . .

 

yes, enough of this foolishness.

i would like to know where to get the best air to bump up my tires a bit.

 

Stratosphere. Way better than Troposphere.

 

So how do you install one of these things?