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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 10:30 PM
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I am looking at a car that has had the CAGS delete installed. Does this cause any issues, void the warranty, destroy fuel efficiency, what entails in reversing it, etc.?

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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 11:06 PM
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Hey Guys,

I am looking at a car that has had the CAGS delete installed. Does this cause any issues, void the warranty, destroy fuel efficiency, what entails in reversing it, etc.?

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Any issues? None that I know of other than never shifting from first to fourth when driving slow.

Void the warranty? Don't know.

Destroy fuel efficiency? I drive a Corvette.

How to reverse it? Get under the car and unplug the thing.

I put one on my car the day I got home. While in the C7 it engages less often than the C6 did, it still engages sometimes so I install the delete to ensure it never engages on me. Never looked back and love it.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 11:10 PM
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Absolutely no warranty implications.
100% reversible.
Does NOT affect fuel economy (if you want to shift from 1st to 4th, you still can -- you just are no longer FORCED to).
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 11:16 PM
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IMHO, it saves you the cost of installing it. If you are worried about the warranty, I'd take it to a Chevy dealer that sells a fair amount of Corvettes. Have them do a full inspection, you should do this anyway. Included in the price of the inspection, they will answer your question about the CAGS and they will provide you with a critical document, the Service Report that tells you what warranty repairs were performed on the car thereby letting you know if this is one of the many nearly perfect Corvette C7s, one of the few that had one major/minor problem or one of the very few that had several problems or one chronic problem that won't go away. Well worth the cost of the inspection.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 12:29 AM
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Although it doesn't hurt anything, I still don't understand why anyone bothers with it on the C7 M7. The forced 1-4 shift only occurs between 14-18 mph. Shift 1-2 before 14 or after 18 and you will never see it.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 12:48 AM
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Although it doesn't hurt anything, I still don't understand why anyone bothers with it on the C7 M7. The forced 1-4 shift only occurs between 14-18 mph. Shift 1-2 before 14 or after 18 and you will never see it.
I bought a CAGS eliminator for my C5 and it was very useful. My dealer said it wasn't a problem on a C7 like it was on the C5 and he was right. The gearing/torque make accelerating past the 14-18 mph sensitive area almost a no-brainer.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 01:54 AM
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I'm baffled as to why anyone WOULDN'T pry a single $20 out of their wallet to NEVER have to worry about it, and be able to shift whenever you want, to any gear you want, at any rev you want.

It serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever, and CAN jack your shifts, especially in town when you may be driving "normally".

It seems so odd to me that anyone would, even slightly, change the way they drive their $50,000+ car EVERY DAY, just so they wouldn't have to spend a $20 ONCE.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 03:39 AM
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Although it doesn't hurt anything, I still don't understand why anyone bothers with it on the C7 M7. The forced 1-4 shift only occurs between 14-18 mph. Shift 1-2 before 14 or after 18 and you will never see it.
I thought the same thing. It used to step in a lot more during my ls1 days.

However, I run 5w-50 oil year round now. No big deal here in California, but I have to short shift it until I get some oil temperature.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Stingray
Hey Guys,

I am looking at a car that has had the CAGS delete installed. Does this cause any issues, void the warranty, destroy fuel efficiency, what entails in reversing it, etc.?

Thanks.
No issues as it just fools the computer thinking it is still activating the solenoid! The shift light still comes on!

Has nothing to do with performance or how the engine performs-no issue with warranty.

You would never want to drive and shift at that low rpm! There is no way it would effect gas mileage. In fact if you want just shift from 1st to 4th on your own below 17 mph and you would duplicate what it does! Most folks, including me, seldom see the 1/4 light light come on. I added strictly for bumper-to-bumper traffic and the fact that I want to shift when I want to shift! Installed on my prior Vettes. It only is useful in the EPA drive cycle that the manufacturers use to rate their mpg.

Takes about 5 minutes to reverse. Just unplug and plug the original connection back on the solenoid.

Noticed you asked a question in a post on my "4 sale page!" For anyone who was looking at my post, you'll be happy to know I cut the price partially by removing items that some think can affect warranty! Taking the catch can, clean side oil separator and low restriction air intake system off! I'll put those on my planned GS! I have no worries about warranty but thought since some might, good way to help offer at a lower, but firm price!

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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Stingray
Hey Guys,

I am looking at a car that has had the CAGS delete installed. Does this cause any issues, void the warranty, destroy fuel efficiency, what entails in reversing it, etc.?

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Greetings,

Installed mine almost immediately after delivery. Never looked back. Has not caused any issues. Warranty - don't know. Fuel efficiency - don't care. However, I would think not.

Semper Fi
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
I'm baffled as to why anyone WOULDN'T pry a single $20 out of their wallet to NEVER have to worry about it, and be able to shift whenever you want, to any gear you want, at any rev you want.
And I'm equally baffled why anyone would EVER worry about it. I don't care if it costs 99¢.

Originally Posted by theplatinumog
I thought the same thing. It used to step in a lot more during my ls1 days.

However, I run 5w-50 oil year round now. No big deal here in California, but I have to short shift it until I get some oil temperature.
Simple, short shift at anytime before 14 mph and save even more wear and tear while you're warming up, and you'll never see a 1-4 shift.

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why would one even worry about it ? if you are driving your car so it engages, then you are not driving your car properly.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
why would one even worry about it ? if you are driving your car so it engages, then you are not driving your car properly.
I was not sure what it actually did or how it worked. I just wanted to cover my basis. I like the idea of not having the car telling me when to shift. I think my mind is now at ease.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
No issues as it just fools the computer thinking it is still activating the solenoid! The shift light still comes on!

Takes about 5 minutes to reverse. Just unplug and plug the original connection back on the solenoid.
But the light is only on for a second like when cars tell you when to shift. And it should only come on when I am basically crawling, like pulling away from a light or in a jam correct?

You may not know this since its not your car, but will the original connection be hanging freely, or should I ask if they have the original connector?
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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On the C7 CAGS is virtually a non item. On my first C7, I wasn't sure it was even working, only one time in 8,000 miles did it even activate. The activation occurred on a slight down grade in heavy traffic trying to stay behind the car in front. Just a momently shift block that went away almost before it happened. Now on my previous C6, CAGS was a pain that interfered regularly. I did put the eliminator on that car.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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No issues, and I have it just in case I ever meet the criteria.

Didn't install it on my GTO, got forced into 1-4 once, that was enough for me to say "NO" to CAGS.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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You guys sure are "passionate" about a $20 mod on a $50,000 car....that some people (including me) want.........and then spend thousands of dollars on 2LT or 3LT toys....

I paid $12 for my CAGS defeat on Ebay.....

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This has nothing to do a "passion" or cost. It's just a conceptual discussion of a device that is next to worthless regardless of cost.

Deer whistles are very cheap too. Why not purchase and mount those too?
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I have the shift light appear every now and then when I'm taking my kid to school in the morning. When the 1-4 shift does kick in, it irritates the crap out of me. So I am happy to spend the $16 it cost me to plug that stupid thing in and NEVER have to worry about being annoyed with the skip shift.

If you think it's worthless fine, I don't know why some people have to force their opinion on people so much sometimes. Great you think it's worthless, some people find value in it. Just because we find value in this cheap part doesn't mean we find value in a deer whistle.
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This has nothing to do a "passion" or cost. It's just a conceptual discussion of a device that is next to worthless regardless of cost.

Deer whistles are very cheap too. Why not purchase and mount those too?
Not trying to start another argument, but if you can hide those in your grille they do work. They don't scare deer, but it freezes them because they hear a noise. Its like when they hear a leaf crackle in the woods, the sit up straight and listen. In the car instance, they wouldn't dart across the road, they would wait and listen to see what the whistle is. They might go after, but hopefully you are passed them by then.

That said, I don't have them.
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