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Old 08-17-2018, 08:49 AM
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mine was happening at least once every weekend for about 5 weeks. I wiggled all cables and pushed on connections around the power steering motor.
Hasn't happened for over a year now. I also had it at dealer for oil change shortly after I did this and mentioned the issue so I am not sure if they did anything.
I am sure glad it is not happening anymore (knock on wood) hate to have dealer touch the car.
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
If you didn't see any codes it's a power issue, the module can't set codes when it looses power (because it needs power to work).

Check the grounding stud on the driver side "frame rail" near the fender. If it's loose or corroded this can lead to power issues.
Grounding has come up before. Those installing Catch Cans may use the recommended grounding bolt to hold the "Can" bracket. I was concerned that combining the anodized bracket with the electrical connector could cause an inferior ground. I moved that ground to the one a few inches forward and replaced the bolt with a stud that also makes it easier to remove the "Can" for cleaning. Recall mentioning that in a post to a person with a steering issue and they found a poor ground was the problem.



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Old 08-17-2018, 11:07 AM
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^^^ That's good information for him as he does have a Catch Can.
Old 08-17-2018, 01:11 PM
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Moving the ground isn't recommended either, when you have too many items on the stud the current can get too high and then it overheats (and can fracture).
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^^^
Some can manufactures recommend, in the instructions, putting the ground ring connector over their anodized can bracket. Yep, can understand GM had multiple grounds for a reason. But it’s a large bolt and an aluminum frame. The two ring connectors fit flush together and you can tighten securely.

Had that arrangement for 3 years on my 2014 and 15 months on my Grand Sport where I put the catch can removed from my 2014 C7. No issues. IMO my method is a better current carrying arrangement that putting the bracket with the connector. Sure mounting separately would be best but doubt many will drill and tap the frame for a separate bolt.

No issues with an anodized can bracket having to transfer current from the ring clamp to the chassis. Also not removing the steel ground bolt in the aluminum frame when I remove the can to empty and clean. Just have to remove the Nylon insert locking nut on the stud.

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Originally Posted by joemessman
^^^ That's good information for him as he does have a Catch Can.
Great memory Joe
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Hey. I finaly recieved a recall notice for my 2017 grand sport, which is related to the power steering failure.
It is to replace the power steering gear assembly.
Nice they found a fix but sucs they need to touch my car. I still have scratches on my fender from my last oil change.
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Originally Posted by NYVette2112
Hey. I finaly recieved a recall notice for my 2017 grand sport, which is related to the power steering failure.
It is to replace the power steering gear assembly.
Nice they found a fix but sucs they need to touch my car. I still have scratches on my fender from my last oil change.
Get it fixed ASAP. Car is not safe to drive when PS fails.
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Originally Posted by NYVette2112
Hey. I finaly recieved a recall notice for my 2017 grand sport, which is related to the power steering failure.
It is to replace the power steering gear assembly.
Nice they found a fix but sucs they need to touch my car. I still have scratches on my fender from my last oil change.
Then find another dealer... I had to have my engine replaced in my 15 due to a broken valve spring , I to was worried but the dealership let me see the car, they had wrapped any painted body panel with plastic crash wrap , both front and rear cradles and the torque tube were on the ground and the body was in the air, seat and dash protectors were installed plus paper mats on my carpets ....you cant tell they even worked on my car ....and ... this is not the first vette I have taken there and had the same treatment . My C6 had the harmonic balancer replaced and had the infamous shift flair , car came back flawless each time ...

Dave

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Originally Posted by NYVette2112
Hey. I finaly recieved a recall notice for my 2017 grand sport, which is related to the power steering failure.
It is to replace the power steering gear assembly.
Nice they found a fix but sucs they need to touch my car. I still have scratches on my fender from my last oil change.
What month was it built? (On sticker on driver's door.)

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Mine was built Oct.2016

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Originally Posted by JerryU
What month was it built? (On sticker on driver's door.)
Mine was built Oct 2016.

Problem happened a few times and seemed to go away for a year, after I pushed on all the connectors.
It came back last fall twice. Both times right after I hit a pretty good size bump.
My personal opinion is it is a bad connection somewhere. I will bring it in for the recall.

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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Then find another dealer... I had to have my engine replaced in my 15 due to a broken valve spring , I to was worried but the dealership let me see the car, they had wrapped any painted body panel with plastic crash wrap , both front and rear cradles and the torque tube were on the ground and the body was in the air, seat and dash protectors were installed plus paper mats on my carpets ....you cant tell they even worked on my car ....and ... this is not the first vette I have taken there and had the same treatment . My C6 had the harmonic balancer replaced and had the infamous shift flair , car came back flawless each time ...

Dave
Wow, That is amazing that they took that much care. I think I am going to start a thread to find a recommended dealer in my area.
I actually went to this particular one because I heard some guys in the local corvette club went to it.
It was my second time going to this dealer. First time for an oil change all went well accept for how long it took for them to bring my car into the shop.
They knew I was waiting for it and it was over an hour before they started to look at it. They can take all the time they want to work on it I would not rush them.
Just dont wait an hour before you start working on it, if you know I am waiting.
Second time. Same thing, but worse. Then scratches on my fender and scratch on my rim. (I had a slow leak they fixed).
It was raining by the time they were done, so I couldnt get a good look at it and didnt notice the scratches, until I wiped down when I got home.
And yes they parked it outside in the rain, while they have plenty of open space inside. I dont really have an issue with that, but read somewhere else where the dealer kept it inside and let the customer pick it up the next day after it stopped raining. (nice dealer)
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The first that heard about this problem was when I took my 2017 Stingray into the dealer for a oil change and the service tech checked for outstanding recalls. She told me that the power steering assist unit is built by BOSH and they have NO idea when and I suspect if they will ever get the parts to fix this problem. I have heard that sometimes you can restart the car and the problem doesn't re-accrue for a while.
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Originally Posted by NYVette2112
Mine was built Oct 2016
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Originally Posted by lostlakerblackc5
...She told me that the power steering assist unit is built by BOSH and they have NO idea when and I suspect if they will ever get the parts to fix this problem. I have heard that sometimes you can restart the car and the problem doesn't re-accrue for a while.
Funny, we hired a QA Manager from BOSH who tried to get supplier contracts as used in automotive, i.e. supplier pays the cost of a recall and all labor and parts. All liability goes to them as well.

Sounds great when you have that volume. He couldn’t get the first supplier to agree. He left!

I’m sure with the declining level of C7 sales BOSH will get replacements as it’s in their interest!

Looks like it was in that late 3rd/4th quarter 2016 time span. My May 2017 has no recall.

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Here is the official description in the email from chevy. Looks like Camaro and Cadillac also included...

Recall Title:

Loss of Power Steering Assist

Recall Description:

General Motors has decided that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in certain 2016 – 2018 model year Cadillac CTS and 2017 model year Chevrolet Camaro, Corvette, and Cadillac ATS vehicles. These vehicles may experience a loss of electric power steering (“EPS”) assist while driving. Loss of EPS assist may last an entire ignition cycle, but may return once the vehicle is restarted. Customers may experience this condition during subsequent ignition cycles.

Safety Risk Description:

If power steering assist is lost, manual steering functionality is retained but would require increased steering effort, particularly at lower speeds, increasing the risk of a crash.

Repair Description:

Dealers will replace the power steering gear assembly

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they may know what part it needs but they don't have the part to fix it and don't know when it will be available so your car may be down for a long time .

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Originally Posted by z512lt
they may know what part it needs but they don't have the part to fix it and don't know when it will be available so your car may be down for a long time .
Yeah, They are not telling us to stop driving the car, so I guess they are assuming responsibility, if anything happens.
They should give me a z06 loaner, while they make me wait.
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My wife 2015 TDX Acura had a recall on her air bag and they told not to drive it. They gave her a loaner for six months. It happens but some companies handle there **** better than others.😎
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I asked for a loaner corvette as of yet they have not gave me anything to drive . I have called GM customer service they said no corvette loaner and a girl named Page hung up on me . I called back and asked to talk to her boss . they said she would call me back no call back yet its been over a week . GM does not care that I paid $70000 dollars for a car I cannot drive . they have my money so its **** on you.


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