2018 Nav Map Update
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '13
V.2018 available now.... $139.98 plus shipping and tax....."$20 off"...got mine!...LK
http://gmnavdisc.navigation.com/prod...en_US/GMNA/USD
http://gmnavdisc.navigation.com/prod...en_US/GMNA/USD
Yeah, I know there shouldn't be any problems...
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Racer
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From: Prescott AZ
Quantity Product description Price Total
1 GM - Next Generation Infotainment System Map Update - V.2018
Item #: 84376196
Vehicle Identification Number: xxxxx
$ 139.99 $ 139.99
DELIVERY METHOD: UNITED STATES GROUND
ORDER SUMMARY
Subtotal $ 139.99
Shipping $ 3.95
Sales Tax $ 12.02
Total $ 155.96
Le Mans Master
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When I logged in there, there was also an offer for free shipping and handling on top of the $20 discount. Was in the form of a pop-up window that you had to click a 'Free Shipping' button or some such after you chose the update button.
Yeah, a whopping $3.95 savings for S&H (lol) so not a big deal but might as well take it too.
Yeah, a whopping $3.95 savings for S&H (lol) so not a big deal but might as well take it too.
Last edited by Kent1999; Aug 24, 2017 at 04:13 PM.
Safety Car
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Just chatted with Nav folks and found that the new version should be available later this month.... 2018 update.... BTW, the 2017 one shows "out of stock".... LK
Debby 9:39 AM
The estimated release date is August 24.
Lenny Koll 9:39 AM
Do you know the price..... Part Number!!??
Debby 9:41 AM
This information has not been announced yet.
Lenny Koll 9:42 AM
OK... thanks
Debby 9:39 AM
The estimated release date is August 24.
Lenny Koll 9:39 AM
Do you know the price..... Part Number!!??
Debby 9:41 AM
This information has not been announced yet.
Lenny Koll 9:42 AM
OK... thanks
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '13
On our Toyota grocery-getters, about once every three years seems often enough for us.
Safety Car
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Believe it or not this issue has been amply covered earlier in this thread. OP asked about availability and pricing, not whether or not he should get it.
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Racer
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From: Prescott AZ
Just got my USB shipment today..... will try to install in next couple of days and report impressions.....LK
BTW.... the USB is a USB 2.0 with 16GB.... using 13GB for the map data....LK
BTW.... the USB is a USB 2.0 with 16GB.... using 13GB for the map data....LK
Last edited by lennykoll; Sep 14, 2017 at 04:25 PM.
Le Mans Master
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My 2018 map update installed without issue last Friday in my 2014 Stingray, and works fine.
The install still takes about 50 minutes, just like last time. Again, started the update before I left work, listened to my radio on the way home, and let the car idle in the garage for 15 minutes when I got home so it could finish. All done. NBD.
All the new roads in my immediate area were covered by the 2017 update, so I haven’t noticed any difference yet.
The install still takes about 50 minutes, just like last time. Again, started the update before I left work, listened to my radio on the way home, and let the car idle in the garage for 15 minutes when I got home so it could finish. All done. NBD.
All the new roads in my immediate area were covered by the 2017 update, so I haven’t noticed any difference yet.
Last edited by Kent1999; Sep 14, 2017 at 10:39 PM.
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Just chatted with Nav folks and found that the new version should be available later this month.... 2018 update.... BTW, the 2017 one shows "out of stock".... LK
Debby 9:39 AM
The estimated release date is August 24.
Lenny Koll 9:39 AM
Do you know the price..... Part Number!!??
Debby 9:41 AM
This information has not been announced yet.
Lenny Koll 9:42 AM
OK... thanks
Debby 9:39 AM
The estimated release date is August 24.
Lenny Koll 9:39 AM
Do you know the price..... Part Number!!??
Debby 9:41 AM
This information has not been announced yet.
Lenny Koll 9:42 AM
OK... thanks
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '13
I thought Android Auto/Apple Car Play made the installed navigation obsolete? Waze was just added in July to Android Auto which makes using it even more appealing. Why pay for a navigation update that is subpar to Google (and out of date as soon as its available) when Google updates their navigation in real time all the time? Doesn't make sense to me.
Will they put the little Speed Limit sign beside your speedometer instead of on the center screen?
We like Waze for speed in areas with enough traffic to give frequent radar reports, but it's worse than worthless out in the boonies where you think there's no radar around but in reality there's just no one to tell you about it.
Google maps has led us astray a few times, just like any other system.
All systems have advantages and disadvantages, all of them will work and none of them are perfect.
The future is with phone-based systems, but it hasn't really arrived yet.
We have the phone navigation and carplay, the factory nav system, and a good set of paper maps. On any long trip we will end up using all three methods.
We just updated our 2017 nav to 2018 data, it took about 30 minutes for the download bar to reach 98%, then another 20 minutes to finish. Kinda like our PC at home. Roads in our area were ok before, so I don't notice any change. Speed limits are much more accurate. For us, worth the money. For others, maybe or maybe not.
Last edited by Gearhead Jim; Sep 18, 2017 at 01:05 PM.
Safety Car
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From: Brighton Mi
Just chatted with Nav folks and found that the new version should be available later this month.... 2018 update.... BTW, the 2017 one shows "out of stock".... LK
Debby 9:39 AM
The estimated release date is August 24.
Lenny Koll 9:39 AM
Do you know the price..... Part Number!!??
Debby 9:41 AM
This information has not been announced yet.
Lenny Koll 9:42 AM
OK... thanks
Debby 9:39 AM
The estimated release date is August 24.
Lenny Koll 9:39 AM
Do you know the price..... Part Number!!??
Debby 9:41 AM
This information has not been announced yet.
Lenny Koll 9:42 AM
OK... thanks
Yes, I'm easily entertained
For the c8 GM will FINALLY start doing over the air updates. Its funny that the engineers are excited about it. The problem with "avionics" in automakers cars is that they are all designed by a committee and there are also a bunch of regulations and validation that must be made with the vehicle that slows everything down and lags them behind the rapid pace of phone tech and software. Android auto and iphone carplay are ways to harness that speed and use them in cars.
I'm hoping for the c8 that they will integrate AA and carplay into the hud and systems more tightly; right now I use the onboard nav for speed limits and hud integrated navigation, and waze running for warnings for "roadside hazards" and the like.
Last edited by spinkick; Sep 18, 2017 at 03:32 PM.
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Hmmm.....USB drive probably has VIN so it is assigned to each vehicle. If one downloads drive contents and locates code for VIN then update could be "enjoyed" by other vehicles. Just thinkin out loud. I wouldn't want to hurt GM Parts profit margins. 
Le Mans Master
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I've done a moderate dive on the data written on the USB Nav updater thumb drive -- it did indeed have my individual VIN in plain text in several files, and who knows how many places it might have been encoded (or some hashed version of it).
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Racer
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From: Prescott AZ
Safety Car
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Yeah, but the problem is they will always be able to cite impressive statistics on the number of changes, but the chances they will affect you are minimal. It's a big continent and changes by themselves do not mean accuracy of content. There's a state highway near me that changed the speed limit about ten years ago, but the latest update has the old speed. Although they probably have a disclaimer, if they miss a speed limit change and you get a ticket, can't you make a case that they are liable? You could at least make your case to the municipal court judge.
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Racer
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From: Prescott AZ
Why Should You Update Your Map?
Last year alone, 569,847 miles of road were updated in the U.S.—and that's only the beginning. Here are a few other notable changes to the navigation system map*:
13,195 gas stations added
22,392 restaurants added
10,591 auto service shops added
3,948,564 street names and addresses added
3,503,237 street names and addresses updated
47,973 speed limit indications added
An updated map helps you avoid unnecessary detours that may arise due to road changes, business closings and construction. In addition to the national updates above, you can use the Map Change Dashboard to find out about specific map changes in your area.
* Change statistics represent updates to HERE map data that may not be available for all navigation systems.
Thread Starter
Racer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 422
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From: Prescott AZ
Yeah, but the problem is they will always be able to cite impressive statistics on the number of changes, but the chances they will affect you are minimal. It's a big continent and changes by themselves do not mean accuracy of content. There's a state highway near me that changed the speed limit about ten years ago, but the latest update has the old speed. Although they probably have a disclaimer, if they miss a speed limit change and you get a ticket, can't you make a case that they are liable? You could at least make your case to the municipal court judge.
One stretch on an interstate near me shows the MPH as being 72 on my '15..... posted as 75.... obviously a typo.... will check to see if it has been corrected..... any bets....LOL....LK
Last edited by lennykoll; Sep 20, 2017 at 08:17 PM.
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Laughable. We have a construction project here that just finished up this summer on I-75 and Square Lake Roads, the removed the left lane entrance and exit ramps to I-75 and replaced them with right lane ones. The project was announced over a year ago, and finished over a month ago. Google Maps still wrong.
When travelling northbound there is a "construction sign" with information which says:
"GPS WRONG, SQ LAKE EXIT ON RIGHT"
Yep, even the state government knows that people rely on their phones so much (aka they basically are dumb) that they need a sign out there in ADDITION to you know the REGULAR road signs....
EDIT: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6146...8,15.78z?hl=en and http://www.modernize75.com/pdf/Squar..._and_After.pdf
Last edited by user051728; Sep 21, 2017 at 06:47 AM.