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Have no issues, it works fine! Read ~100 posts about the product before I purchased and MOST put the controller behind the carpet! When you read the details in my 7 page PDF you'll see I did NOT put it where many did, which was next to the hotter area, the aluminum clutch/driveshaft tunnel. Some mounted the remote in the console and needed to mount the controller next to the driveshaft tunnel because of the supplied wire length. I did not need the extra length.
As noted, I tried to mount the controller above the carpet in the front but could not get the Velcro or 3M Dual Lock adhesive (which is better) to hold sufficiently to the plastic interior part outside just above the front carpet. That material is cool as it is insulated and has a gap from the firewall, not like the hot aluminum driveshaft tunnel. Looked and placed it 80% behind the carpet sticking up a bit with a gap around it. Cool enough IMO. If needed I would put a short screw in the plastic and let it hang!
Yep read a few posts where Vitesse suggested mounting outside to "possibly correct a problem." Perhaps that was their issue but from my experience it is not as easy to calibrate unless you follow their simple, cryptic instructions very carefully. That is why I make a more detailed set of calibration instructions. There were posts that said it did not work until it was properly calibrated! Frankly it's so easy that I think some just don't push the one button at the proper time. I didn't at first! I was reading and recording the numbers in the display, which is not only unnecessary, it's meaningless! The controller records what is needed and you can't do anything with the numbers!
DETAILS FOR THOSE INTERESTED:
IMO, I am back to the throttle response I had with my 2014 Z51 for 3 1/2 years where I always drove, in Sport. Did not have mag shocks so no affect on ride. Looking at the table in the 2014 Owner's Manual the throttle response in Sport was equal to Track. Both the most aggressive.
In the Grand Sport I drive in Touring as Sport is a stiffer ride than my 2014. The 2017 has four (not three) throttle response settings. Weather, very slow, Touring Slow, Sport more aggressive and Track the fastest. Have tried those Mode settings and in Track the ride rattles your teeth! I'd estimate with my 4 or 5 Vitesse setting, I'm about at the OEM Sport or Track setting.
Did not have mag shocks in my C6 Z51 but had a control **** with 3 variable shock settings on my 1993 40th Anniversary Vette. Realize that was not mag shocks but stiffness and control did change. Even the stiffest setting was no where near as stiff as what the current Sport or Track Modes provide. There are other benefits to mag shocks but IMO Track is just that for Tracking unless you play with the wet Track settings etc.
I'm happy where I have it set now: Steering in Sport whatever the Drive Mode setting, NPP is set at Track for all Modes and now Throttle response when in Touring is what I was used to for 3 1/2 years in my 2014 Z51 driving in Sport or Track!
I am just about to do mine. I need to pick up the 3m Velcro. In researching I saw that they were recommending the flat area under the steering column. That's my plan.
On a side note, did you break the hook on the trim piece? I read the recommendation is to remove from the back first and slide back. They say the front has a hook that will break.
I am just about to do mine. I need to pick up the 3m Velcro. In researching I saw that they were recommending the flat area under the steering column. That's my plan.
On a side note, did you break the hook on the trim piece? I read the recommendation is to remove from the back first and slide back. They say the front has a hook that will break.
Yep, I tried to mount the Controller on the plastic/rubber panel near the steering column just above the carpet. But could not get the adhesive on the piece of Velcro to stick with enough strength to be sure it would hold. That is why I put it 80% behind the carpet. You could get a short sheet metal screw and put it the plastic/rubber panel and attach the controller to the screw with some soft wire if you have the same issue.
Not sure what trim piece you are referring to? There were some comments about removing the throttle peddle that does have a hook but mine came out very easy. After removing the bolt just slide it back, don't lift up.
The only trim I can think of is a piece of plastic holding the carpet next to the driveshaft tunnel. I just pulled the carpet down before pulling it out. After I routed the wire, I slipped the carpet back under the clip the same way.
As noted in post #1, I mounted the remote on the side of the console. With the new remote, no need to see the display panel when changing. Just reach down and move one click to change one number, etc. You can look when you're out of the car!
The Controller should not be placed under the carpet, excessive heat is not recommended for the controller.
Try to place it under the dash ( Zip tied... ).
Good thought. Mine is working fine but have enough wire to find a place to use a zip tie.
PS: Thought if the forum vendor could post on the Corvette Forum when his product is for many cars, I could at least check out the feasibility of his idea! After looking I found a great spot to do as he suggested! Will update my PDF but here are a few pictures with captions of what I just did!
Unless you can find an 8 to 10 year old to look under the dash upside down, suggest you get a cushion and lean into the car sitting on the ground outside!
Found a loop of bundled wires about 3/8 inched in diameter by feeling with my hand. The loop makes a perfect place to put a Zip Tie through. Having lots of practice with my street rod wiring, suggest you practice starting the Zip Tie with one hand! Not hard! Used a 12 inch long Zip Tie and just started the loop.
Slipped the controller and wires through the loop. Easily done with one hand.
Pulled the Tie snug and tucked the loose Zip Tie end behind the carpet! Controller is secure and won't rattle.
Good thought. Mine is working fine but have enough wire to find a place to use a zip tie.
PS: Thought if the forum vendor could post on the Corvette Forum when his product is for many cars, I could at least check out the feasibility of his idea! After looking I found a great spot to do as he suggested! Will update my PDF but here are a few pictures with captions of what I just did!
Unless you can find an 8 to 10 year old to look under the dash upside down, suggest you get a cushion and lean into the car sitting on the ground outside!
Found a loop of bundled wires about 3/8 inched in diameter by feeling with my hand. The loop makes a perfect place to put a Zip Tie through. Having lots of practice with my street rod wiring, suggest you practice starting the Zip Tie with one hand! Not hard! Used a 12 inch long Zip Tie and just started the loop.
Slipped the controller and wires through the loop. Easily done with one hand.
Pulled the Tie snug and tucked the loose Zip Tie end behind the carpet! Controller is secure and won't rattle.
So..I had never been down there. What I ended up doing was putting it on the inside of the plastic under dash cover. Velcroed it in. There is exactly enough space between the lip and some kind of insulation. I also was able to fish everything through without removing the pedal. Being 6'3" and 250, I was skeptical I would have room.
So..I had never been down there. What I ended up doing was putting it on the inside of the plastic under dash cover. Velcroed it in. There is exactly enough space between the lip and some kind of insulation. I also was able to fish everything through without removing the pedal. Being 6'3" and 250, I was skeptical I would have room.
Not sure I understand. The plastic/rubber material that the carpet covers is insulated with pretty thick material from the hot metal firewall. Frankly I'm not sure where I had it, under the carpet between the plastic/rubber material but at the top of the carpet was so bad but sounds like you put it on the firewall metal? Perhaps I'm misunderstand.
In any case, mine was working fine but when the manufacturer takes the time to Post and say "Zip Tie" under the dash," I looked and found a good spot! Now it's attached to nothing hot or insulated! Air moves around the whole controller as it hangs from under the dash.
I still think the problem some folks encountered was where they mounted the remote in the console. o have enough wire to reach they used the extra length from the pedal to the Controller. That puts the controller behind the carpet that sits over the thin aluminum tunnel. That would be a hot area. But just my speculation.
In any case, now mine is sitting in the open air! Took 15 minutes to relocate.
Not sure I understand. The plastic/rubber material that the carpet covers is insulated with pretty thick material from the hot metal firewall. Frankly I'm not sure where I had it, under the carpet between the plastic/rubber material but at the top of the carpet was so bad but sounds like you put it on the firewall metal? Perhaps I'm misunderstand.
In any case, mine was working fine but when the manufacturer takes the time to Post and say "Zip Tie" under the dash," I looked and found a good spot! Now it's attached to nothing hot or insulated! Air moves around the whole controller as it hangs from under the dash.
I still think the problem some folks encountered was where they mounted the remote in the console. o have enough wire to reach they used the extra length from the pedal to the Controller. That puts the controller behind the carpet that sits over the thin aluminum tunnel. That would be a hot area. But just my speculation.
In any case, now mine is sitting in the open air! Took 15 minutes to relocate.
Not that heat insulation. This is likely a fiber sound insulation. If you go straight up from the pedals and forward, the bottom dash cover is open in the back. You can put your hand in and feel the insulation. Between the lip and that insulation is just exacty enough space to put down Velcro.
Not that heat insulation. This is likely a fiber sound insulation. If you go straight up from the pedals and forward, the bottom dash cover is open in the back. You can put your hand in and feel the insulation. Between the lip and that insulation is just exacty enough space to put down Velcro.
my thoughts with a Z 51 auto set on sp5 I agree a nice mod much more linear. For a first drive had to readjust driving habits while taken a mild curve so as not to have to much throttle. I think Chevy gives the dead spot for the perceived demographic( cough cough old farts) for the record I am over 65 just don't drive that way.
my thoughts with a Z 51 auto set on sp5 I agree a nice mod much more linear. For a first drive had to readjust driving habits while taken a mild curve so as not to have to much throttle. I think Chevy gives the dead spot for the perceived demographic( cough cough old farts) for the record I am over 65 just don't drive that way.
75 tomorrow and I'm there yet and hope to never be!
i use a setting of 4 or 5 and it's about the same as my 2014 Z51 that I always drove in Sport mode (no mag shocks.) Drive the Grand Sport in Turing and where the 2014 throttle response in Sport = Track in the 2017 there are 4 OEM Throttle ranges: Weather-very Slow; Touring fairly Slow; Sport faster and Track the fastest.
Form my observation a Vitesse set at 5 = OEM when set at Track. With the Grand Sport driving in Track rattles you teeth and Spot is a stiffer ride than my none mag shock Z51.
This is a better comparison of what I found in the 2014 versus 2017 Owner's Manuals. For 3 1/2 years I was used to driving in the most aggressive Throttle Response available in my 2014 Z51 as I drove in Sport Mode 95% of the time (it did NOT have mag shocks so the ride was not affected by Drive Mode Setting.)
In my Grand Sport I drive mostly in Touring Mode as the ride with mag shocks is stiffer in Sport Mode than in my previous 2014 Z51 and rattles your teeth in Track Mode, even on our pretty good flat roads in Eastern SC!
The Vitesse Throttle Controller allows me to set the Throttle Response to what I was used to in my 2014 Z51!
The 2014 C7 has 3 Throttle Response Modes. Sport and Track are the same and the most aggressive. The 2017 has 4 Throttle Response Modes. Touring was far less aggressive to what I have been used to for 3 1/2 years. The Vitesse Throttle Control allows me adjust the Response when Driving in Touring equal
to the most aggressive OEM response (and even more aggressive if desired.) Note I am able to have the Steering Response set in Sport and the Exhaust NPP set in Track regardless of Driving Mode, which I have done. However no such option to set Throttle Control as desired.
This is a better comparison of what I found in the 2014 versus 2017 Owner's Manuals. For 3 1/2 years I was used to driving in the most aggressive Throttle Response available in my 2014 Z51 as I drove in Sport Mode 95% of the time (it did NOT have mag shocks so the ride was not affected by Drive Mode Setting.)
In my Grand Sport I drive mostly in Touring Mode as the ride with mag shocks is stiffer in Sport Mode than in my previous 2014 Z51 and rattles your teeth in Track Mode, even on our pretty good flat roads in Eastern SC!
The Vitesse Throttle Controller allows me to set the Throttle Response to what I was used to in my 2014 Z51!
The 2014 C7 has 3 Throttle Response Modes. Sport and Track are the same and the most aggressive. The 2017 has 4 Throttle Response Modes. Touring was far less aggressive to what I have been used to for 3 1/2 years. The Vitesse Throttle Control allows me adjust the Response when Driving in Touring equal
to the most aggressive OEM response (and even more aggressive if desired.) Note I am able to have the Steering Response set in Sport and the Exhaust NPP set in Track regardless of Driving Mode, which I have done. However no such option to set Throttle Control as desired.
I'm a little confused. Why didn't you just drive your GS in PTM/WET? That would be track throttle response with tour setting on the shocks. Foosh taught me this and I drive in that mode 90% of the time when I am on the street. I use PTM/DRY when I want the shocks in their sport setting.
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I test drove it last week after install on sp5. I drove it at sp6 this morning and I am in love. I was skeptical...but it's so much better. I have a M7 and got no surging at all. I can see why some people say it surges. If you don't have a steady foot it will definitely feel that way as the sensitivity is increased.
I'm a little confused. Why didn't you just drive your GS in PTM/WET? That would be track throttle response with tour setting on the shocks. Foosh taught me this and I drive in that mode 90% of the time when I am on the street. I use PTM/DRY when I want the shocks in their sport setting.
Not correct! When in PTM/WET it sets the throttle response slow! It's not in the aggressive Dry Track setting! Probably what GM thinks you need for track driving in the wet, which it what that setting is designed for. As I recall, Foosh just said he doesn't need it and just pushes his foot faster! His choice! I tried to compensate using that approach in my GS and far prefer what I was used to in my 2014 C7 Z51 for 3 1/2 years in normal driving!
In my 2014 Z51 I always drove in Sport (none mag shocks as was my C6 Z51) and see now that it was the most aggressive OEM throttle response for 2014. Now I can match that when in Touring or any driving Mode with the GS!
Not correct! When in PTM/WET it sets the throttle response slow! It's not in the aggressive Dry Track setting! Probably what GM thinks you need for track driving in the wet, which it what that setting is designed for. As I recall, Foosh just said he doesn't need it and just pushes his foot faster! His choice! I tried to compensate using that approach in my GS and far prefer what I was used to in my 2014 C7 Z51 for 3 1/2 years in normal driving!
Maybe it's a 2017 thing. I will chime out.
In my 2014 Z51 I always drove in Sport (none mag shocks as was my C6 Z51) and see now that it was the most aggressive OEM throttle response for 2014. Now I can match that when in Touring or any driving Mode with the GS!
Throttle mapping is the same when you are in track. Regardless of what PTM mode you are in. I tried to look at the two charts. The red and white one I am very familiar with. The one next to it... I can't seem to make it big enough to read.
I may be wrong (doubt it). But I am pretty sure throttle mapping is the same in all PTM modes. They wouldn't give an inconsistent throttle pedal on track. The tip in is always the same as long as you are in track mode (any PTM setting)
I am reading your post over and over. Your telling me your 14 in sport mode was the same throttle mapping vs in track mode? I think your car was broken. Maybe that was a first year thing but my 16 has a big difference in sport and trackwhen it comes to the throttle. But it stays the same when I am in track mode, no matter what PTM sub mode.
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Throttle mapping is the same when you are in track. Regardless of what PTM mode you are in. I tried to look at the two charts. The red and white one I am very familiar with. The one next to it... I can't seem to make it big enough to read.
I may be wrong (doubt it). But I am pretty sure throttle mapping is the same in all PTM modes. They wouldn't give an inconsistent throttle pedal on track. The tip in is always the same as long as you are in track mode (any PTM setting)
I am reading your post over and over. Your telling me your 14 in sport mode was the same throttle mapping vs in track mode? I think your car was broken. Maybe that was a first year thing but my 16 has a big difference in sport and trackwhen it comes to the throttle. But it stays the same when I am in track mode, no matter what PTM sub mode.
Prove it. I have a 16 and they are pretty much the same in sport and track. You can search and see that's the way most people here feel. The difference is unnoticeable.
Throttle mapping is the same when you are in track. Regardless of what PTM mode you are in. I tried to look at the two charts. The red and white one I am very familiar with. The one next to it... I can't seem to make it big enough to read.
I may be wrong (doubt it). But I am pretty sure throttle mapping is the same in all PTM modes. They wouldn't give an inconsistent throttle pedal on track. The tip in is always the same as long as you are in track mode (any PTM setting)
I am reading your post over and over. Your telling me your 14 in sport mode was the same throttle mapping vs in track mode? I think your car was broken. Maybe that was a first year thing but my 16 has a big difference in sport and trackwhen it comes to the throttle. But it stays the same when I am in track mode, no matter what PTM sub mode.
It's not my observation in the 2014 versus the 2017 it's what it says in the Owner's Manuals. Don't have to read just look at the pic I put in post #33! I didn't made that up it's a copy of the pages in the Owner Manuals. I just Printed Screen and put the two together! My 2014 wasn't broke!
The Throttle Response issue with PTM/Wet isn't just from me it's from a fellow who tracks his C7. He is very knowledgeable. His words made sense to me as GM designed that setting to be less aggressive when tracking in the wet. It also has a different eLSD setting per the published chart . Yep it has softer mag shock settings and other changes for racing in the rain!
Do as you wish, that is your choice, mine is to drive where GM designed the mag shocks, eLSD and whatever when in the dry! When it gets below ~45F I put it in Weather Mode and get the Traction Control to come in sooner as GM designed.
GM provides an option to set Steering where I was used to my 2014 Z51 for 3 1/2 years when driving in Sport (which I did 95% of the time) but not Throttle Response. Have my Steering set for Sport Mode whatever Drive Mode I am in. Vitesse gives me that option for Throttle Response.
The Throttle Response issue with PTM/Wet isn't just from me it's from a fellow who tracks his C7. He is very knowledgeable. His words made sense to me as GM designed that setting to be less aggressive when tracking in the wet. It also has a different eLSD setting per the published chart . Yep it has softer mag shock settings and other changes for racing in the rain!
Do as you wish, that is your choice, mine is to drive where GM designed the mag shocks, eLSD and whatever when in the dry! When it gets below ~45F I put it in Weather Mode and get the Traction Control to come in sooner as GM designed.
GM provides an option to set Steering where I was used to my 2014 Z51 for 3 1/2 years when driving in Sport (which I did 95% of the time) but not Throttle Response. Have my Steering set for Sport Mode whatever Drive Mode I am in. Vitesse gives me that option for Throttle Response.
Lol I am doing 30+ track days in my c7 this year. I consider myself pretty knowledgeable. It's less aggressive as in traction control and stability control kick in very early, but the throttle is the same.
And looking at that chart you referenced. When it is in track, throttle is in track, right? I see the 3 and 4 different ranges. Now show me being in track (any PTM setting) and show me the throttle being less than the most aggressive.
And to the other guy. There are 3 ranges in my car. Look at the charts we are referencing. I will admit it is tough to feel the difference between sport and track. But I am in track 100% of the time in PTM and the throttle is always the same...
I'm not trying to be rude. Just trying to figure out if you posted something in those charts that I missed. When a c7 is in track so is the throttle. Even in PTM wet. There is nothing in those charts that states otherwise, right?
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75 tomorrow and I'm there yet and hope to never be! 
