GMEPP questions
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GMEPP questions
I went to the GMEPP website and I was checking coverage. I noticed on the Platinum plan under what is not covered, it listed shock absorbers.
My question is does the GMEPP Platinum Plan cover the Mag Ride Suspension? Will it be a fight to get a bad shock replaced? Has anyone used GMEPP to have this done?
My question is does the GMEPP Platinum Plan cover the Mag Ride Suspension? Will it be a fight to get a bad shock replaced? Has anyone used GMEPP to have this done?
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Oct 21, 2017, 04:52 PM
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Are you sure you were not looking at what used to be called GMPP or the Ally Platinum plan? That one does not cover shocks. The Chevrolet Protection Plan does cover shocks including MSRC.
The two have often been confused by many. Ally purchased GMAC in 2009 and with that sale came the right to sell what used to be the GM Protection Plan (GMPP). Those rights have now expired, and GM is marketing their own plans, which do cover shocks.
I just went back and looked, and you may have been looking at an old website (link below), since it also lists Hummer and Saturn, which are long gone. That is the Ally plan
http://www.gmeppdirectsmith.com/GM-W...rranty-GM-Cars
The Chevrolet Protection Plan is what you want. Look in the Exclusions section in the link below. Neither shocks, nor MSRC are excluded. I have this plan, and have checked and double-checked. MSRC is covered.
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...evy-sample.pdf
The two have often been confused by many. Ally purchased GMAC in 2009 and with that sale came the right to sell what used to be the GM Protection Plan (GMPP). Those rights have now expired, and GM is marketing their own plans, which do cover shocks.
I just went back and looked, and you may have been looking at an old website (link below), since it also lists Hummer and Saturn, which are long gone. That is the Ally plan
http://www.gmeppdirectsmith.com/GM-W...rranty-GM-Cars
The Chevrolet Protection Plan is what you want. Look in the Exclusions section in the link below. Neither shocks, nor MSRC are excluded. I have this plan, and have checked and double-checked. MSRC is covered.
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...evy-sample.pdf
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Are you sure you were not looking at what used to be called GMPP or the Ally Platinum plan? That one does not cover shocks. The Chevrolet Protection Plan does cover shocks including MSRC.
The two have often been confused by many. Ally purchased GMAC in 2009 and with that sale came the right to sell what used to be the GM Protection Plan (GMPP). Those rights have now expired, and GM is marketing their own plans, which do cover shocks.
I just went back and looked, and you may have been looking at an old website (link below), since it also lists Hummer and Saturn, which are long gone. That is the Ally plan
http://www.gmeppdirectsmith.com/GM-W...rranty-GM-Cars
The Chevrolet Protection Plan is what you want. Look in the Exclusions section in the link below. Neither shocks, nor MSRC are excluded. I have this plan, and have checked and double-checked. MSRC is covered.
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...evy-sample.pdf
The two have often been confused by many. Ally purchased GMAC in 2009 and with that sale came the right to sell what used to be the GM Protection Plan (GMPP). Those rights have now expired, and GM is marketing their own plans, which do cover shocks.
I just went back and looked, and you may have been looking at an old website (link below), since it also lists Hummer and Saturn, which are long gone. That is the Ally plan
http://www.gmeppdirectsmith.com/GM-W...rranty-GM-Cars
The Chevrolet Protection Plan is what you want. Look in the Exclusions section in the link below. Neither shocks, nor MSRC are excluded. I have this plan, and have checked and double-checked. MSRC is covered.
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...evy-sample.pdf
Last edited by Foosh; Oct 21, 2017 at 05:06 PM.
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And if you decide to buy contact Dennis Fichtner at Denny Menholet Chevrolet, a forum vendor here. You can get the same genuine GM plan at a much better price than your local dealer.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-extended.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-extended.html
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+1 on Dennis. One little known fact - you can buy the GM plan right up until the time your 3 year bumper-to-bumper expires. The policy starts the day you buy it. If you buy it the first day you own the car, or the last day the 3 year b-2-b warranty is up, you pay the exact same price, and the policy starts they day you buy the policy.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
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+1 on Dennis. One little known fact - you can buy the GM plan right up until the time your 3 year bumper-to-bumper expires. The policy starts the day you buy it. If you buy it the first day you own the car, or the last day the 3 year b-2-b warranty is up, you pay the exact same price, and the policy starts they day you buy the policy.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
Since the b-2-b covers everything during it's period, buying earlier than the last day of the b-2-b is duplicating coverage and should cost less.
When we checked with Dennis for the extended warranty on our 2009, he sent the printout of all the possible combinations. As you went further into the b-2-b period, the amount of coverage you could buy got smaller and the price got larger. Even allowing for the duplication of coverage, we were far ahead to buy just before 12 months/12k miles (now 10k miles, I think).
I know that's 9 years ago, but the economics for the seller should still be similar.
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+1 on Dennis. One little known fact - you can buy the GM plan right up until the time your 3 year bumper-to-bumper expires. The policy starts the day you buy it. If you buy it the first day you own the car, or the last day the 3 year b-2-b warranty is up, you pay the exact same price, and the policy starts they day you buy the policy.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
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We've been over and over and over this. The plan pricing factors in factory warranty overlap and mileage. A 72-month plan at the beginning generally costs less than a 36-month plan at the end, which provides one with effectively the same extended coverage. Moreover the prices of these plans are always going up.
Last edited by Foosh; Oct 22, 2017 at 04:36 PM.
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Contact Dennis Fichtner at Denny Menholet Chevrolet. The GMPP Platinum Plan he sells is a GM plan and covers everything the old GM GMEPP Platinum Plan did plus it also includes the magnetic shocks. Dennis is an absolute pleasure to deal with and will provide you with all your options. I got the Platinum 84 month/100,000 mile warranty with $0 deductible on my 2015 C7 Z51 with 8124 miles so I am now covered till 02/2024 or 108,124, whichever comes first. Policy is also transferable if you sell privately or you can terminate at any time with refund prorated. Cost of the policy is much cheaper the sooner you buy it. The cost of my C7 policy was only about 50% more than the 3yr/36K/$100 deductible policy I bought on my 2009 C6 with 49K from Ken Fichtner 3 years earlier. Dennis also assisted me in cancelling my C6 policy and getting my refund.
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Contact Dennis Fichtner at Denny Menholet Chevrolet. The GMPP Platinum Plan he sells is a GM plan and covers everything the old GM GMEPP Platinum Plan did plus it also includes the magnetic shocks. Dennis is an absolute pleasure to deal with and will provide you with all your options. I got the Platinum 84 month/100,000 mile warranty with $0 deductible on my 2015 C7 Z51 with 8124 miles so I am now covered till 02/2024 or 108,124, whichever comes first. Policy is also transferable if you sell privately or you can terminate at any time with refund prorated. Cost of the policy is much cheaper the sooner you buy it. The cost of my C7 policy was only about 50% more than the 3yr/36K/$100 deductible policy I bought on my 2009 C6 with 49K from Ken Fichtner 3 years earlier. Dennis also assisted me in cancelling my C6 policy and getting my refund.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-extended.html
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You're right GMPP was the Ally plan after purchasing GMAC years ago, but they're no longer allowed to use the GM brand as of this year. Their rights have expired.
The GM-branded plan is not even called GMEPP anymore. It's now called the Cadillac/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC Protection Plan depending upon the brand. I'm not surprised it's very confusing to folks, because it is.
The GM-branded plan is not even called GMEPP anymore. It's now called the Cadillac/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC Protection Plan depending upon the brand. I'm not surprised it's very confusing to folks, because it is.
Last edited by Foosh; Oct 22, 2017 at 06:52 PM.
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Thanks for the correction. Below is the explanation Dennis sent me earlier this year:
Please find below more information on the Chevrolet Protection Plans (GMEPP), pricing, and what we need to put a policy in place.
Here’s a YouTube video from Chevrolet on the Plan:
Differences between the old GMPP and the new Chevrolet Protection Plan:
GMPP is a product of Ally Bank and we no longer offer this plan here at the dealership
Ally will not have access to GM records and the submission of claims by dealers may be not be transparent to the customer
Chevrolet Protection Plan (GMEPP) is a product of General Motors
Chevrolet Protection Plan (GMEPP) offers the same coverage as GMPP with this additional benefit: * Coverage for ride control suspension & shocks
Please find below more information on the Chevrolet Protection Plans (GMEPP), pricing, and what we need to put a policy in place.
Here’s a YouTube video from Chevrolet on the Plan:
Differences between the old GMPP and the new Chevrolet Protection Plan:
GMPP is a product of Ally Bank and we no longer offer this plan here at the dealership
Ally will not have access to GM records and the submission of claims by dealers may be not be transparent to the customer
Chevrolet Protection Plan (GMEPP) is a product of General Motors
Chevrolet Protection Plan (GMEPP) offers the same coverage as GMPP with this additional benefit: * Coverage for ride control suspension & shocks
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And if you decide to buy contact Dennis Fichtner at Denny Menholet Chevrolet, a forum vendor here. You can get the same genuine GM plan at a much better price than your local dealer.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-extended.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-extended.html
My local dealer beat Fichner by hundreds of dollars with a simple phone call. I did not provide him with Fichners quote prior to purchase.
It pays to ask around.
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+1 on Dennis. One little known fact - you can buy the GM plan right up until the time your 3 year bumper-to-bumper expires. The policy starts the day you buy it. If you buy it the first day you own the car, or the last day the 3 year b-2-b warranty is up, you pay the exact same price, and the policy starts they day you buy the policy.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
So if you buy a 5 year policy with your new car for example on Jan 1 2014, your policy ends Jan 1 2019. If you buy the 5 year policy on Dec 31 2016, the day before your 3 year b2b expires, your 5 year policy ends Dec 31 2021 - and you end up paying the exact same premium.
I know this because a friend and forum both bought policies from Dennis on the exact same tine. His was the week before his B2B expired, and mine had more than 2 years left on the B2B.
As an aside it is true the closer to the expiration of the B2B warranty, the higher the price for the same coverage and time/mileage limits. In my opinion its better to wait until just before the B2B warranty expires even though it cost more because you are covered for more years. So in the end you get more for your money.
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Maxie,
There may be a few scenarios where that could be true (perhaps on a very low mileage GQ), but generally speaking I think it's the opposite. Price plan increases also add to the cost. Of course, it's impossible to compare the price of a 72-month plan on a 1-month old, 500 mi car today vs. a 36-month plan on a 3-year old car w/ 500 miles three years in the future.
There may be a few scenarios where that could be true (perhaps on a very low mileage GQ), but generally speaking I think it's the opposite. Price plan increases also add to the cost. Of course, it's impossible to compare the price of a 72-month plan on a 1-month old, 500 mi car today vs. a 36-month plan on a 3-year old car w/ 500 miles three years in the future.
Last edited by Foosh; Oct 23, 2017 at 08:30 AM.
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I don't have the paperwork anymore but as mentioned in post #7, we saved a bunch of money by buying the "warranty" just before the first inflection point in the pricing/coverage.
We knew we would be putting a lot of miles on the car and keeping it a long time. We bought the 84/84 plan at 9 months/11500 miles, so we were covered to 93 months/95500 miles.
If we had waited until just before hitting the 36k mile end of b-2-b, the coverage we could buy would have been less and the price higher. We would have spent about a thousand dollars more to get covered out to about the 93/95500 point.
OTOH, if you won't be putting many miles on the car, then waiting until near the end of b-2-b before getting the coverage could indeed save some money.
The only way to know is to get the full printout from Dennis or someone similar, calculate how many months/miles you will put on the car, and buy accordingly.
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Yes, and the longer plans in the beginning do take into account the amount of factory warranty left. They ask for in-service date and mileage before providing you a quote on whatever plan length you choose. That way you're not usually paying for coverage you're not going to use.
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Are you sure you were not looking at what used to be called GMPP or the Ally Platinum plan? That one does not cover shocks. The Chevrolet Protection Plan does cover shocks including MSRC.
The two have often been confused by many. Ally purchased GMAC in 2009 and with that sale came the right to sell what used to be the GM Protection Plan (GMPP). Those rights have now expired, and GM is marketing their own plans, which do cover shocks.
I just went back and looked, and you may have been looking at an old website (link below), since it also lists Hummer and Saturn, which are long gone. That is the Ally plan
http://www.gmeppdirectsmith.com/GM-W...rranty-GM-Cars
The Chevrolet Protection Plan is what you want. Look in the Exclusions section in the link below. Neither shocks, nor MSRC are excluded. I have this plan, and have checked and double-checked. MSRC is covered.
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...evy-sample.pdf
The two have often been confused by many. Ally purchased GMAC in 2009 and with that sale came the right to sell what used to be the GM Protection Plan (GMPP). Those rights have now expired, and GM is marketing their own plans, which do cover shocks.
I just went back and looked, and you may have been looking at an old website (link below), since it also lists Hummer and Saturn, which are long gone. That is the Ally plan
http://www.gmeppdirectsmith.com/GM-W...rranty-GM-Cars
The Chevrolet Protection Plan is what you want. Look in the Exclusions section in the link below. Neither shocks, nor MSRC are excluded. I have this plan, and have checked and double-checked. MSRC is covered.
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...evy-sample.pdf
Ally didn't buy GMAC, Ally IS GMAC. GM had to divest from GMAC during the bankruptcy, and so it became an independent company. They decided to change their name to Ally to "distance" themselves from GM.
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Yes, that's right.
However, the agreement w/ GM limited the amount of time Ally could market it as a GM product. GMAC was also a separate company from GM as well, but was then considered as part of the GM family.
However, the agreement w/ GM limited the amount of time Ally could market it as a GM product. GMAC was also a separate company from GM as well, but was then considered as part of the GM family.