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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by erick e
The MDI is supposed to be supported until the introduction of the Global B platform, where the MDI-2 will be necessary.
That's basically what I'd expect, but it'd be nice if GM had this in black and white somewhere. Maybe some new information will be available now that the 2019 Silverado has been announced.
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I am currently using this one, $119 as of the time of this posting:

https://www.amazon.com/VXDIAG-Tech2W...xdiag+vcx+nano

With either the above item or a genuine Bosch MDI, you also will need a PC, and if you want to flash/program modules an AcDelco subscription. If you don't need to flash modules, then no subscription needed with the above item. The unit I have covers GM vehicles up through and including 2016. Works on my Chevy Cruze and C7 using MDI/GDS2, also works as a PC-based Tech 2 on my C5, C6, and Hummer H3.
How much HD do I actually need on the laptop if it's just dedicated to mdi usage ?
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How much HD do I actually need on the laptop if it's just dedicated to mdi usage ?
The VM file that comes with the Nano loads at 3.5 GB, and I see it expands to about 4.5 GB after running it. Throw in another gig for logs and a couple other small files that are created once the VM is started and you should be okay. I haven't run MDI/GDS2 with any recorded or saved sessions so I suppose it can grow depending on what and how much you're doing. Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the VMX file limits the virtual machine file to 20GB but I'd have to go back and look at that on the PC out at the shop. In any event, by today's standards, it doesn't use much disk.

The PC runs the VM better on a dual core (or more) processor such as the Intel I-5 or I-7.
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Originally Posted by pickleseimer
The VM file that comes with the Nano loads at 3.5 GB, and I see it expands to about 4.5 GB after running it. Throw in another gig for logs and a couple other small files that are created once the VM is started and you should be okay. I haven't run MDI/GDS2 with any recorded or saved sessions so I suppose it can grow depending on what and how much you're doing. Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the VMX file limits the virtual machine file to 20GB but I'd have to go back and look at that on the PC out at the shop. In any event, by today's standards, it doesn't use much disk.

The PC runs the VM better on a dual core (or more) processor such as the Intel I-5 or I-7.
I read on gm requirements that a 500GB or larger is needed.
I'm looking at a i5 with 4gb mem and 320 HD.
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I read on gm requirements that a 500GB or larger is needed.
I'm looking at a i5 with 4gb mem and 320 HD.
I bought a refurbished HP elitebook, Win 7, 500GB hard disk and 8GB RAM I-5 dual core. After loading the VxDiag stuff on the system, had 420 GB free space on the disk.
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I bought a refurbished HP elitebook, Win 7, 500GB hard disk and 8GB RAM I-5 dual core. After loading the VxDiag stuff on the system, had 420 GB free space on the disk.
Should be able to program fobs with a subcription?
I'm thinking of trying this one, cheap enough.
I need to be able to refresh and program a 2014 and 2015 and I haven't seen many post using this device with GDS2 on late models.
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Should be able to program fobs with a subcription?
I'm thinking of trying this one, cheap enough.
I need to be able to refresh and program a 2014 and 2015 and I haven't seen many post using this device with GDS2 on late models.
If your immediate need is to program fobs, I've taken a look at the '15 Vette Factory Service Manual to see exactly what the procedure is to do that. The FSM also lists a procedure to either relearn all fobs, or add fobs without using SPS or even the scan tool. The procedure is on pages 13-89 and 13-90 for both SPS and without SPS, and it will take at least 30 minutes to perform.

I would scan it for you except I won't be anywhere near a scanner for a few days. Let me know if you want it and I'll get it for you later on in the week.
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I have only one Fob and it not original to the car. I need the MDI for diagnostic and programming. The 2014 I purchased from an insurance company and it's going to be a mod. car.
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Try this.

Programming Transmitters

Transmitters can be programming in various ways using the procedures outlined below. Using the
Replacing Transmitters procedures will first erase all the known transmitters from the vehicle. Any
existing transmitters and any new transmitters will then be programmed. This procedure should be
used any time a transmitter is required to be unlearned or erased from a vehicle. If a new transmitter
is being learned to a vehicle to replace a damaged, inoperative, or stolen transmitter, the Replacing
Transmitters procedure must be used. This ensures that the old transmitter cannot be used to access
or start the vehicle after programming.

The Adding Transmitters procedure does not erase any transmitters prior to programming. The
procedure will simply program the transmitter into the next available slot. The Adding Transmitters
procedure should only be used when adding an additional transmitter to the vehicle. The Adding Keys
procedure should never be used to program a transmitter to a vehicle that is having a transmitter
replaced, regardless of the cause for the replacement.

Replacing Transmitters (Without SPS)

NOTE:
This procedure will unlearn all previously learned transmitters. All
transmitters that are to be programmed must be with the vehicle at the
time of service.

This procedure will take approximately 30 minutes to complete.

A total of eight transmitters can be learned to a single vehicle.

This procedure will only learn the vehicle transmitter information. This
procedure will not learn any immobilizer information between the body
control module (BCM) and engine control module (ECM).

This procedure may be used with or without existing learned transmitters
being present. If existing transmitters are present, keep the transmitters
away from the vicinity of the vehicle. Failure to keep learned transmitters
away from the vehicle will result in the learn changing to the Adding
Transmitters procedure.

1. Insert the vehicle key into the key cylinder above the license plate and turn the key to the unlock
position five times within ten seconds. The driver information center will display Remote Learn
Pending, Please Wait.
2. After ten minutes, the driver information center will display Press Engine Start Button To Learn.
Press the ignition mode switch. The driver information center will again display Remote Learn
Pending, Please Wait.
3. Repeat Step 2 two additional times, for a total of thirty minutes. All previously known
transmitters have now been unlearned. Remaining transmitters can be relearned during the
next steps. The driver information center display will now display Ready For Remote # 1.

NOTE: The transmitter pocket is located in the steering column lower trim cover,
with the pocket opening facing the passenger side of the vehicle. The
transmitter must be inserted into the pocket with the buttons facing up. If a large keyring prevents the transmitter from being fully inserted into the
pocket, remove the keyring and insert the transmitter in the pocket. Failure
to fully insert the transmitter into the pocket will result in an inability to
program.

4. Place the new transmitter into the transmitter pocket.
5. Press and release the ignition mode switch. When the transmitter is learned, the driver
information center will indicate that it is ready to program the next transmitter.
6. Remove the transmitter from the transmitter pocket and press the unlock button. To program
additional transmitters, repeat Steps 4 through 6.
7. When all additional transmitters are programmed, press and hold the ignition mode switch for 5
seconds to exit programming mode.
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^^^ That is the procedure that is mentioned in the service manual. Thanks for posting it for the OP.
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I'll try that procedure as soon as I reassemble the car.
I purchase the VXDIAG VCX NANO yesterday, now I need to locate a laptop.
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Originally Posted by erick_e
The MDI is supposed to be supported until the introduction of the Global B platform, where the MDI-2 will be necessary.
Maybe the case, but with VM GDS2 V17, it has all the models for all the GM bases models listed all the way through 2018 (including hummer/GMAC and saabs and so forth); which is working fine on a GM nano MDI 1 clone.

As for the GM Global B platform (will have to connect to GM mobile cloud to allow it to work, jury is still out if that future software will be able to be cloned to run stand alone instead. As note, the VM GDS2 V17 was just released into the wild to cover all the 2018 models.
So as long as GM still has the GDS2 able to run off line, it will still be crack-able. Plus, it just a mater of time until MDI 2 clones hit the marked on the cheap side as well.

In know that once chrysler went to a cloud base system after the DRB III (DRB III was used up to 2009), 2009 was the last of the cracked software, with a WiTech needed for 2010 model and up, which you have a subscription to connect to the Chrysler WiTECH cloud base program instead.

But really, all this is a mute point since with the new laws being writting in effect, GM is moving to a two year $40 fee per Vin for private use instead.

Hence John Deer tried to hold the farmer hostage with not releasing the needed programs to them, to prevent them from repairing their John deer units themselves, and since farmers have so much goverment support, government is writing in new laws to favor the farmers; which is translating over to us as well.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...ight-to-repair
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Originally Posted by Dale002
I'll try that procedure as soon as I reassemble the car.
I purchase the VXDIAG VCX NANO yesterday, now I need to locate a laptop.
Pick up a windows 64 bit machine, running windows 10.

On the machine, set up a dual boot, and load in win 7 32bit version on the other boot up . The new machine will come with a mulit-core processor, and will run the win 7 side as lighting speed.
On the Win 7 boot up side, this is were you going to install all the GM nano software, including the VM XP shells.

If you need to pick up a laptop on the cheap, Best buy has refurbished I5 multi core CPU, 8g ram, 500g hard drive laptops under $250, so not only will it work for the Nano, but with it having win 10, will work for all your every day needs as well.

Hence to run VM in windows 7, you need a multi core processor (not going to run on a something like a centrino M single core CPU), and you want at least a 500gig hard drive, since win 7 boot up is going to need about 80 gigs of the hard drive partitioned off for it.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...ce%20skuidsaas
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Originally Posted by Dano523
But really, all this is a mute point since with the new laws being writting in effect, GM is moving to a two year $40 fee per Vin for private use instead.
The new pricing went live today. The $40 is only for service programming (reflash). If you want GDS2, it's still $57 for 3 days, $227 for a month, or $575 for a year. I'm guessing it's because GDS doesn't have the capability to be locked to a single VIN. Hopefully that'll change.
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I need some help loading the CVXNano on my lap top. The Vm player loaded but nothing else.
My lap top is running windows7 pro, 4gb, mem ,1tb, hd, i5
I've been using an I pad for years so I need to be trained on windows7
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Originally Posted by Dale002
I need some help loading the CVXNano on my lap top. The Vm player loaded but nothing else.
My lap top is running windows7 pro, 4gb, mem ,1tb, hd, i5
I've been using an I pad for years so I need to be trained on windows7
Easy one,
Open the disc on your lap top and read the read me file.
hence you load the tech2 win and MDI files to win 7 first, then your going to install the Vx manager afterwards, which will load the needed gm nano driver files so the lap top can find the GM nano when you have it plugged into a USB port.
Note, you really don't need the Tech2 win software for GDS2 to run, but it nice to have it on the machine if you do run into car that you need to use it on instead. If you don't want Tech2 win on the machine, you still need to load the VX manger on the machine in native win 7, since it going to load the needed GM nano drives so the computer can load the nano into the device manager via a usb port.


Once these are loaded into native win 7 system, Drag the VM GDS2 file folder from the DVD folder, then drop it on the desktop of the machine to copy the GDS2 folder to your laptop desk top.

In the GDS2 folder on our machines desktop, right click on the VM.vmx file in the folder, and select to open it with VM player.

When the VM player starts to load the VM.vmx file, it will want to down load some files/drivers, so let it.

Once the needed files are downloaded, this should bring up the VM shell running XP, with GDS2 one of the icons you can click on.

Once you click on GDS2 in the VM shell, it will open, then click on diagnostics to get the ball rolling. From here, the easy way to run GDS2 is to just click on find vin ( once you have the GM nano connected to the car with it in run mode, motor off) and the rest is a snap.
Note, when you use GDS2 on the car, since you have to put the car into run mode-motor off, all the modules are running, so best to put a 10amp charger on the battery so the modules drain down the battery voltage down. Also what helps is to first get the VM shell up, install the nano USB to a usb port and wait for it to be loaded in Device manager, then open GDS2 afterwards.

One last thing if the VM shell does not fully load, up in the VM player tabs, under view, make sure you do not have unity selected. Hence it easy to try to click on full screen in view, hit the wrong button and active unity instead. What unity does is ties to run the VM shell in the native window screen, and the VM player version that comes with the disc does not have the needed drivers to pull then off.

This will get you going with the GDS2 V15 (C7 only up to 2016), but if you want the latest VM GDS version, its vm "GDS2 v17.0.08000", and has the vet all the way up to 2018 in that version.

Once you have that downloaded "GDS2 v17.0.08000" (easy to find on the inernet, and may have to install Chome to download it for free due to its size), your going to do the same thing once you unzip it with the password from the link, being right click on the VM.vmx file in the GDS2 folder, then select to open it with the VM player.

The VM GDS2 V17 is going to load like normal, but it will not find the gm nano to start with.

So what you have to do is load the white disc back in your machine that came with the GM Nano, open the DvD folder on your desktop, drag the VX MDI manager install file from the disc over and drop it in the VM player window that you have running with XP VM.vmx loaded, then click on the VX manger.exe in the VM player window to load it into the VM XP shell. Hence this will load the needed drivers for the nano into the VM GDS2 V17 shell, and the VM GDS2 V17 will auto select the gm nano automatically when you select diagnostics just like it did in the vm GDS2 V15 .

If you still have problems, then PM me with a phone number and I can call you to walk you threw everything.

Also to note, with a 1TB hard drive, can walk you through setting up the machine for a dual boot (win7 and win 10), so you can leave about 80gigs of the 1TB drive portioned off for Win 7 to use it for car stuff with tech2 win and GDS2, and the other 900gigs of the hard drive portioned off to run win 10 for normal stuff instead.

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Dale, I'll be up for a few hours more, and to PM me, just click on my name over to the left and send me a PM from the pull down tab.
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when i open the disc, i see three files
gds2vm
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neither have a read me file unless it's hiding.
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I'm looking at the discs main folder from my disc drive,

Go to the widows start button at your main screen bottom left, click on it to open the menu selection, go over to computer on the right hand side in the menu and click it to open computer, then scroll down to open the DVD drive folder (should be something like the D drive) from there you see all the items on the DVD disc.

First folder is GDS2 VM

Second folder is Tech2Win

Third item is the Readme.txt

Fourth item is update.txt

Fifth item is the VM player

Sixth item is VX driver MDI.

If all of these do not show up in the DVD drive folder, or you can not see the Dvd "D" drive folder in computer folder to start with on windows 7
Select the Start button, then select Control Panel > Appearance and Personalization.
Select Folder Options, then select the View tab.
Under Advanced settings, select Show hidden files, folders, and drives, and then select OK.


So from the read me file,

Tech2Win Install
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1. Run Tech2Win\AutoInstall.exe (from the tech2win folder in the main disc folder), Everything will be done.
2. install VX Driver MDI (back in the main disc folder)

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Using GDS2 with VMWare
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1. Install VMware-player-6.0.6-2700073.exe
2. copy GDS2 VM to hard disk. (from the disc folder to your laptop desktop screen with a drag and drop to copy the folder from the D drive folder from the disc, to your desk top screen that is part of the C drive. Hence the folder has to be part of the C drive at desk top; since changes can not be made to the GDS2 folder files while its still on the D drive).
3. open GDS2 VM with VMware Player (right click on the Vm.vmx file in the GDS2 file in the GDS2 folder on your desk top, scroll down to select program to open the file, then select "VM player" as the program that is going to open the VM.vmx file).


To add to this, once you have Vm player installed, your never going to open GDS2 via opening the Vm player by itself. Your always going to open GDS2 by opening the VM.vmx file in the GDS2 folder, that is going to use VM player to open the file after you have selected VM player as the program to open the file.

So again, if you are having problem, PM with a phone number and I can call you back to get you squared away instead.

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Dano523, I just go in but will try this in the morning. I'll let you know how it worked out. Thanks.
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