I would be okay with Corvette being handled by Cadillac dealers if it meant decent service

 

A vert SUV?

 

 

It will not translate into decent service because it is a Cadillac dealer. Their service is just as inept as most Chevy dealers, they just talk nicer to you.

 

Hey,,,I'm all for it.

Wouldn't be too hard to do...Remember the Trailblazer SS or the 05, 06 SSR.

 

It does work for Chevy. GM sold 1,295,700 of them in 2018, primarily Chevrolet. And once again, Corvette is a model of Chevrolet, which is the brand. I don't think Porsche will be producing 911 or Boxster/Cayman SAVs.

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/...3-gmsales.html

 

I think the render is nice. Better looking than my X5. But I agree with others. GM has a tonne of SUVs as is. Porsche as a manufacturer didn't.

 

I respectfully disagree. The TBSS was just a pos suv with an LS2 upgrade and badging. The Cayenne is a great allaround platform (handling, power, braking, comfort, durable, and pretty decent offroad). To compete with the Cayenne, GM would need:

-an all new chassis unless they could modify the zeta platform
-500+ hp/tq engine and durable transmission
-curb weight ~4500 lbs.
-proper brakes like the 6/4 piston Brembos

 

This sums it up.

 

Yes and no

If you get in a Porsche SUV, you can feel the 911 DNA in it.

That is what makes it the 911 of SUV's

 

Yep, and I suppose you could put an LT1 in a Blazer and feel the Corvette DNA. Put Corvette badges on it, and it just cannbalizes Blazer sales. I don't see that GM has anything to gain in a zero sum game. It is already a company that sells more than 1 million SUV/SAVs a year.

In 2018, Porsche sold 250K total of all models worldwide. GM sold 8 million total of all models worldwide.

There's nothing comparable about the Cayenne chassis and a 911. In fact, the Cayenne platform is a VW Toureg, and the Macan is a VW Tiguan, so you're feeling VW DNA as well.

 

I think a corvette SUV would dilute the vette overall. I vote no

if I want a high performance SUV, I’ll get back into the jeep SRT. Solid solid ride and probably THE best infotainment system out there. Plus, maintenance on the jeep is way WAY less costly then Porsche.

I dont hate porsche. Just never was a fan.

 

POrsche faithful hated the idea of the porsche cuv ...the automotive press was agast...

them porsche priduced the cuv and saved the company...sold a ton of them and had the funds to do further research and development for the sports car.

great way to get the wife into corvettes is a corvette cuv instead of a porsche, lexus, jaguar, mercedes, bmw or audi

 

Once again, Porsche and all the others you name are brands, like Chevrolet. Chevrolet SUV/SAV sales dwarf those of Porsche and all the others you list by an order of magnitude. The Porsche brand does not market an SUV/SAV under the 911 model family.

 

SSOnce again when expanding outside traditional paradyms your choice to stick with some old worn out differentiated fact of model vesus brand is quite amazing.

by the very nature of thinking outside the box.....whether the discussion of model versus brand is blocking the accomplishment of potiential success..

we can argue the differences of brand versus model yet its simple to understand the corvette by its very nature is both a model and a brand....it is in fact possible to be both should the model be powerful enough...the corvette is such a case ...

the same for porsche and yet in reverse...for the most part before cuvs...the porsche brand literally meant 911...

porsche struggled to expamd the brand with its 914 and then front engine two door sports cars...porsche still struggled to expand its brand image and its vehicle sales were no where near as successful as its cuv limeup.

Porsche faithful, the automotive media cringed...yet todays porsches profits come from cuv sales.


gm would do well to suffer the sales success and profit from Porsche's CUVs.

we can argue the difference and the value of the difference between brand and model brand identity with regards to stepping outside traditional roles for new found success ...

gm is too conservative to step across traditioanl vehicle roles even if it means sales success...

 

Where can I buy a 911 SUV?

 

“There's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,”

 

I don't think that whether Chevrolet produces a high performance SUV and what they would call it is a moral question. If they do produce such a vehicle, my money is on it not being called a Corvette.

 

I guess that means Porsche is also too conservative to think "outside of the box" in not offering a 911-branded SUV/SAV. Why not a Porsche pickup truck?

If you'd carefully read my posts, I provided counterpoints why it would likely NOT necessarily mean "sales success" on a net GM basis, and it would add additional cost and complexity. It would just as likely siphon off sales of other GM SAV/SUVs, likely hurting Cadillac SUVs badly, thus a zero sum game at best.

Yes, when the Porsche brand had just one model, they struggled, but the Chevrolet brand is far more diversified than Porsche today, including "Corvette by Chevrolet." GM sold more than 1.2 milliion SAV/SUVs in 2018 mostly Chevrolet, compared to 157,489 for Porsche.

GM thought way outside of the box by expanding brands to the point of sending them into Chapter 11. Many of those brands are gone now. Corvette is a tiny niche for Chevrolet, just as 911 is to Porsche. It makes no economic sense to expand into markets for other products you already produce and sell successfully. You're not only competing with others, you're competing with yourself.

 

Porsche specifically DiD THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX... Just the opposite of your opening statement.

first off Id like to say I respect you and your opinion. Even as we continually disagree on this subject ..

I also believe GM is too rigid in its marketing to believe a corvette crosstrek would be valuable asset as compared to say a “trail blazer or blazer RS...

from an true off roading persoective the original blazer had quite a good image but todays consumers are really shopping hot rod sport cuv s as the select halo vehicles for cuvs...(not true offroad suvs) the porsche mix was a desperate stroke of magic. The corvette marketing team would do well to mimic porsches macan. (But they wont for fear of alienating corvette traditionalists and becaise gm thinks blazer can do the trick which it wont for years)

GM lack of leveraging during a seismic shift in what is considered a halo vehicle will be unfortunate...

the white space is the hot rod road going awd sport cuv segment.

big money....and huge profits.

you are correct its not going to happen.

i am simply stating my opinion its a huge opportunity lost...

two seat corvette buyers and owners would gobble up a corvette crosstrek for years at maximum production capility...

every or at many spouses of a corvette owner would all of a sudden be driving a corvette crosstrek instead of a porsche macan or alfa stelvio ...bmw x1, x2 ,x x4 , x5, x6, mercedes amg cuvs. Etc...