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#61
I get it. I think the stingray/Z51 are plenty wide from the factory. Sometimes less is more...
#62
Correct. There's not enough of a reason to buy a gs, when the Z06, is in the running. You'll always regret it if you go cheap on a new Corvette.
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The z06 is great, but you're almost never going to use the extra horsepower unless you track it or drag race it, and even then, the car doesn't handle that level of power as well as the base engine which creates issues that even professional drivers attest to. Don't get me wrong, if the Z06 was even close to the price of a GS, I'd have gotten a Z06, but I didn't feel like paying an extra $15 grand for added power I would almost never use, as I don't track or race the car. And if you're all about power, then you need to move up to the zr1 right? And that's the problem with chasing horsepower - there is always a car with more.
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#65
Go watch any GS review by a professional driver and they almost all say the GS is the sweet spot of the corvette family.
#66
Exactly - chasing horsepower is a fools game unless you're buying the car to race it.
#67
Maybe for old ladies who need to warm and cool their fannies with their special seats, and who need cameras to park their car without demolishing their front end, lol.
Go watch any GS review by a professional driver and they almost all say the GS is the sweet spot of the corvette family.
Go watch any GS review by a professional driver and they almost all say the GS is the sweet spot of the corvette family.
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#68
Well I guess you shouldn't get upset when us GS guys give our opinion (which is shared by a lot of professional drivers...) - the GS is not just looks it adds a bunch of performance features that many people feel put the GS in the sweet spot of the corvette lineup. It's unquestionably a step up from the stingray or even the z51, and your complaint about power is silly unless you are drag racing, because most of us are just using these cars on public roads, and even if you look at the track stats, the GS holds up pretty well against many similar cars with more horsepower, including the Z06. And your comparisons are ridiculous - the GS looks like a jeep, and getting a GS is like getting a Ferrari with a vw engine - that kind of makes your argument look pretty stupid. But please, don't get defensive that's just my lovely opinion.
The z06 is great, but you're almost never going to use the extra horsepower unless you track it or drag race it, and even then, the car doesn't handle that level of power as well as the base engine which creates issues that even professional drivers attest to. Don't get me wrong, if the Z06 was even close to the price of a GS, I'd have gotten a Z06, but I didn't feel like paying an extra $15 grand for added power I would almost never use, as I don't track or race the car. And if you're all about power, then you need to move up to the zr1 right? And that's the problem with chasing horsepower - there is always a car with more.
The z06 is great, but you're almost never going to use the extra horsepower unless you track it or drag race it, and even then, the car doesn't handle that level of power as well as the base engine which creates issues that even professional drivers attest to. Don't get me wrong, if the Z06 was even close to the price of a GS, I'd have gotten a Z06, but I didn't feel like paying an extra $15 grand for added power I would almost never use, as I don't track or race the car. And if you're all about power, then you need to move up to the zr1 right? And that's the problem with chasing horsepower - there is always a car with more.
. You just proved my point - you don't ever track your car, and I have the identical Horsepower as you do - for $10K less.
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#69
Race Director
$10k for the GS package or $10k for the 3LT trim package? Easy choice for me and many other sportscar fans.
Last edited by Kevin A Jones; 05-18-2019 at 12:31 PM.
#70
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I'll take my 3LT Stingray over a poverty GS. It's all I need and rides like a dream. Each must find they own sweet spot.
LOL, that ought to get you ******* stirred up.
LOL, that ought to get you ******* stirred up.
#71
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Don't know about getting anyone stirred up, but your post doesn't make a lot of sense as you refer to a poverty GS, however a 1LT GS is typically around the same price as a 3LT stingray.
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Joe, you sound like someone who doesn't understand what driving a spotscar is all about. It's not about luxurious features (go back to your Caddy for that) it's about the thrill of the overall (power, steering, handling, breaking) driving experience which I enjoy every time I get into my GS Vert. You certainly don't need to be going 100>180 mph to enjoy a sportscar.
$10k for the GS package or $10k for the 3LT trim package? Easy choice for me and many other sportscar fans.
$10k for the GS package or $10k for the 3LT trim package? Easy choice for me and many other sportscar fans.
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Just for the record...
Chevrolet.com shows the Z51 with the A8 running 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds if you click on the fine print link.
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ray-sports-car
Chevrolet.com shows the Z51 with the A8 running 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds if you click on the fine print link.
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ray-sports-car
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ort-sports-car 3.6 seconds
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ray-sports-car 3.7 seconds
If you don't like those #'s from GM try this pic from a Bash!
I can validate the lateral "g" increase as I have a single lane road around a ~75 foot diameter fountain near the end of my street! Grass field on the right! No houses/people wihthin 1/4 mile! Tried often for 3 1/2 years with my Z51- get an extra ~1.5 max "gs" with the 2 year old GS!
335 rear/285 front tires versus 285 rear/ 245 front are doing something!
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#74
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A GS looks like a Jeep??? Might as well get a Ferrari with a VW engine??? Did you spend too much time at your local "happy hour" today?
You sound like someone who has never driven a GS. What C7 do you own, or do you even own one? There's a lot more to a fine high performance sportscar than just HP.
You sound like someone who has never driven a GS. What C7 do you own, or do you even own one? There's a lot more to a fine high performance sportscar than just HP.
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#75
To the OP:
I bought the base C7, 2lt, convertible, with stick shift, mag ride, and couldn't be happier. You've seen everybody thinks they've made the best choice, and I guess as long as one feels that way, then they did make the best choice, for them! Take some test drives and see for yourself which car works best for you. You really can't go wrong whatever you decide.
I bought the base C7, 2lt, convertible, with stick shift, mag ride, and couldn't be happier. You've seen everybody thinks they've made the best choice, and I guess as long as one feels that way, then they did make the best choice, for them! Take some test drives and see for yourself which car works best for you. You really can't go wrong whatever you decide.
#76
For a more "accurate record" try these GM links:
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ort-sports-car 3.6 seconds
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ray-sports-car 3.7 seconds
If you don't like those #'s from GM try this pic from a Bash!
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ort-sports-car 3.6 seconds
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...ray-sports-car 3.7 seconds
If you don't like those #'s from GM try this pic from a Bash!
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The divisive bickering here about packaging and options baffles me. At a cars and coffee, guys face to face would be complimentary to each other on ones selections of options on their Vettes. I have ordered 4 C7s, all in 1LT, but I have added some of the following to these 4 cars; Optional paint, competition seats, forged wheels, Stinger stripe, red seat belts, painted calipers,CF badges, ACS front splitter, rear spoiler wings, and dozens of other after market goodies. I have ordered and bought three (3) Grand Sports that stickered higher than a 3LT base. Doesn't make them better than a base but merely what I preferred.
"Poverty Grand Sport"?......GTFO
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Even better since you always say you "MUST BUY" a 3LT:
A Z51 with MRC and 3LT has a MSRP of $73,535
A Grand Sport with what "most" agree is the "sweat spot" 2LT that includes MRC standard is only $71,450!
IMO folks buying a 3LT Z51 with MRC are paying $2085 too much! Plus no reason to pay >$200 to upgrade the, at best fair, GM NAV when the free "Apply CarPlay" is a better NAV, displays on the full center screen and continually updates free!
PS: If you don't have or want MRC then a 3LT Z51 without MRC still costs $290 MORE than a 2LT GS that includes MRC standard!!!
This is NOT just my "opinion" sales of Z51's declined significantly once the Grand Sport was available! From the pricing comparison you can see why! A few folks who drive in bad weather and some snow get it as the "skinny" tires do have better (not good) traction in light snow and heavy rain. They also have a wider available range of winter tires.
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