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Old Jul 15, 2019 | 11:22 AM
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FWIW, the VR in my '14 was horrible. In contrast, the VR in my '19 has been absolutely flawless (surprised the HELL out of me actually)
Old Jul 15, 2019 | 02:50 PM
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Well, I selected my favorites list of contacts only for the car to download. I then removed those names that the car wasn't recognizing from my phone and then added them again. Everything is working fine, for the moment. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
You should try it with a southern accent. Mine goes all kind of stupid at times.
It's a computer. That means that it is really, really dumb but can do some things really fast. Voice recognition has a lot of variables, so there's a lot to go wrong.

But you all already knew that.

Good luck. (And do try the suggestions. One or the other may help. BTW my son the computer engineer says that the cell phone integration on C7 is actually quite good.)

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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
You should try it with a southern accent. Mine goes all kind of stupid at times.
My HS French teacher was from Alabama

(it was very confusing hearing "Bonjour, y'all". She'd start every class with that)

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Originally Posted by KenHorse
My HS French teacher was from Alabama

(it was very confusing hearing "Bonjour, y'all". She'd start every class with that)
I have a friend from Indiana who spent her career as a Spanish teacher.

Very strange to travel with her in Spain . . . .
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Dothraki or Klingon, that's the only languages the beast understands and then you must use the southern dialect of both languages! Tough system to conquer.

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Old Jul 15, 2019 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
My HS French teacher was from Alabama

(it was very confusing hearing "Bonjour, y'all". She'd start every class with that)
LOL. I'm gonna start using that with my (grown) kids - they'll love it (not).
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
Nope

"Point Of Interest" and go from there...

(don't blame the machine if you don't know what the machine wants and you don't give it)
Excuse me but the car has VR or Voice Recognition does it not? Are you saying it does not understand your voice?

Ok go into POI then select Destination POI. Try saying "DMV" or "Department of Motor Vehicles". Report back if it worked and how many times you had to say it before it worked (if it worked at all). In my car it cannot find the DMV for ****. Conversely, with AA I just say "Navigate to DMV" or just "DMV" and viola, recognizes it and starts navigation with no further effort (whereas if the factory nav manages to find the right thing you'll have to at least go past the screen where it shows you the POI and pauses if you would like to call them. Stupid.
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Old Jul 15, 2019 | 06:10 PM
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Excuse me but the car has VR or Voice Recognition does it not? Are you saying it does not understand your voice?

Ok go into POI then select Destination POI. Try saying "DMV" or "Department of Motor Vehicles". Report back if it worked and how many times you had to say it before it worked (if it worked at all). In my car it cannot find the DMV for ****. Conversely, with AA I just say "Navigate to DMV" or just "DMV" and viola, recognizes it and starts navigation with no further effort (whereas if the factory nav manages to find the right thing you'll have to at least go past the screen where it shows you the POI and pauses if you would like to call them. Stupid.
I'm saying that if one tells it a command it doesn't understand, one shouldn't expect it to respond as one wants it to....

I'll go to my car later and try it

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I know what you are saying. I knew the first time. Sorry but I never use the factory nav VR as it sucks ***** so please forgive me if I don't remember the precise order of the steps. The point is irrelevant, however. The point is "wherever or whatever you need to do to get to that point where the VR system is about to parse your command" if you say "navigate to the DMV" or other such things chances are extremely high the in car factory nav VR thingy will not understand a ******* thing you said. And that is the point! And quite frankly I am positive that the '14 VR and the '19 VR both misunderstand what you said equally well. Face it dude the VR sucks.
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Ken , why bother arguing....

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Ken , why bother arguing....

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Why bother *learning*? Just ignore your errors and if anybody calls you on them then call them somebody who's not adding to the situation and you never have to deal... errr admit your error... Thus you'll always be right. Or at least that's Dave's plan...

Truth is, if Ken performed that test, he'd have to (unless he wanted to lie) admit that the factory VR failed.

But Dave, you're right in a sense in that it's no use arguing about the matter, simply get the real data and see where that leads you. After all, this was not an argument but rather a request to see what testing yielded.

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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by defaria
Why bother *learning*? Just ignore your errors and if anybody calls you on them then call them somebody who's not adding to the situation and you never have to deal... errr admit your error... Thus you'll always be right. Or at least that's Dave's plan...

Truth is, if Ken performed that test, he'd have to (unless he wanted to lie) admit that the factory VR failed.

But Dave, you're right in a sense in that it's no use arguing about the matter, simply get the real data and see where that leads you. After all, this was not an argument but rather a request to see what testing yielded.
Sure, I can't simply say "Locate Nearest DMV". You're correct, that does not work (never said it did). But if I say "Point Of Interest" (in response to the system's voice prompts), then the name of the city then "DMV", it does give me several choices for DMV, including the Dept of Motor Vehicles.

BUT.....

My original point was not that the VR has enough intelligence to discern what I want regardless of whatever term (or words) I throw at it. It was about the ACCURACY of the '19 VR system in recognizing the CORRECT words. My '14 would regularly interpret a word incorrectly whereas my '19 rarely misses a word.

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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 11:46 AM
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It's bad enough that you have to use a specific sequence and keywords but it is inexcusable that GM doesn't publish all of the rules you need to know to use the system.
Old Jul 16, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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It's bad enough that you have to use a specific sequence and keywords but it is inexcusable that GM doesn't publish all of the rules you need to know to use the system.
Actually it does. Have you read the Infotainment Manual?
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Actually it does. Have you read the Infotainment Manual?
Yes but the manual doesn't have all of the details that the system requires. For example, "Interstate 205" needs to be entered as "I-205", not "highway 205" or "Interstate 205". It gets real frustrating (and distracting) trying to figure out this stuff out using trial and error. I started a "cheat sheet". It is in post #26 of this thread:
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
Sure, I can't simply say "Locate Nearest DMV". You're correct, that does not work (never said it did). But if I say "Point Of Interest" (in response to the system's voice prompts), then the name of the city then "DMV", it does give me several choices for DMV, including the Dept of Motor Vehicles.

BUT.....

My original point was not that the VR has enough intelligence to discern what I want regardless of whatever term (or words) I throw at it. It was about the ACCURACY of the '19 VR system in recognizing the CORRECT words. My '14 would regularly interpret a word incorrectly whereas my '19 rarely misses a word.
And my point is even when you get to the point where it's supposed to interpret your words as the destination it often falls flat on its face. Here's a video I just took in my car. See not only how it is incapable of understanding DMV, Dept of Motor Vehicles and even MVD or Motor Vehicle Dept as it's called here in Arizona, but how wildly off the system is. It seems to know only extremely well-known business chains like McDonald's, Taco Bell and Harkins Theaters but it cannot figure out DMV or even Talking Stick Arena (the arena here in downtown Phoenix). Maybe the '19 is a bit better but I highly doubt that anything in this system was changed and if it was changed, why not offer the new software to other C7 owners. The hardware hasn't changed (from '16 (my car is 2016) to '19) has it?


Also, compare that to using AA and Google's VR where all you need to say is "Navigate to DMV" and viola you're on your way.

Oh and I'd love to see a similar video from you (or anybody else) that shows it working well.

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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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And my point is even when you get to the point where it's supposed to interpret your words as the destination it often falls flat on its face. Here's a video I just took in my car. See not only how it is incapable of understanding DMV, Dept of Motor Vehicles and even MVD or Motor Vehicle Dept as it's called here in Arizona, but how wildly off the system is. It seems to know only extremely well-known business chains like McDonald's, Taco Bell and Harkins Theaters but it cannot figure out DMV or even Talking Stick Arena (the arena here in downtown Phoenix). Maybe the '19 is a bit better but I highly doubt that anything in this system was changed and if it was changed, why not offer the new software to other C7 owners. The hardware hasn't changed (from '16 (my car is 2016) to '19) has it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJfMixD-p4

Also, compare that to using AA and Google's VR where all you need to say is "Navigate to DMV" and viola you're on your way.

Oh and I'd love to see a similar video from you (or anybody else) that shows it working well.
Nice video but quite honestly, it's not worth the effort to me.

I'm satisfied with my NAV, you're not with yours. I get it.......

So be it
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