Ooh ooh. I can do that too!

Physician, heal thyself

 

I'm curious, have you tried saying the subcatagory "Public and Government" first and then saying "Department of Motor Vehicles"? The DMV may not be considered a "chain" by the system.

 

It appears you misunderstood my post.

If someone finds the system meets their needs, it meets their needs. While you may find this ridiculous, your feelings in this regard are irrelevant.

 

Excuse me but you said, "But you are so wrong to be satisfied!". You didn't say who "you" was but only KenHorse said he was satisfied. So is he so wrong to be satisfied or is he right to be satisfied.

Secondly, my feelings (actually thoughts, opinions, and facts) are ALWAYS relevant - at least to me! And they are relevant here.

Finally, a few years ago I went to Havana, Cuba. Also, my mom was from Ukraine. I can attest that many of those people feel that their system meets their needs. That's only because they have no idea that their needs are meager and can be so much more satisfying if they open their minds to other possibilities. IOW if you're ignorant (or as in this case, fight to remain ignorant, and I've met a bunch of people who do that) of what is actually available you will settle for much less than you could have gotten. Some people have a way of justifying their chosen position even when shown it is inferior as they need to make themselves feel they made the right decision. They therefore simply dismiss any facts presented to them and refuse to test things themselves to verify what they claim (i.e. it's not worth the effort to me). They can then go on happily believing they made the right decision without checking it. I feel sorry for such people.

Do I also need to include the city and state as well as country, planet and solar system? Why in the world would I think "Gee, I should select Public and Government" first"!?! And since when were only "chains" considered points of interest? I thought parks, statues, buildings, etc. were also points of interest. And let's not forget that under AA it's just "Navigate to DMV" and you're on you way!

Secondly, there is no subcategory selection at all - there's only POI (oh and things like Address or Contact which don't apply here) let alone a selection of "Public and Government".

And it's not like I have a hard-on for getting to the DMV - it's just an example of a total failure of the factory VR that one would think an auto enthusiast would use and one I remember way back in the day when I actually had to use the factory nav as AA was not yet supported in my '16 until I got the firmware update. My factory VR nav unit still can't find it and AFAICT neither does yours.

So rather than be curious and throw out some wild *** idea, how 'bout cha hop into the car, fire up that factory Nav and take whatever steps you need to take to utilize the VR to navigate you to the DMV and report back to us what worked, not something you think might work, because as far as I'm concerned, as I originally said, this doesn't work.

 

Sarcasm, big boy, as well as context. My response was directly after KenHorse's comment "I'm satisfied with my NAV, you're not with yours. I get it......."

You are so focused on telling others they are wrong you are not paying attention.

 

Per the infotainment manual:
"Destination Place of Interest:
Begin a dialog to enter a destination Place of Interest category or major brand name (if equipped).
Not all brand names of businesses are available for voice entry. Most major chains, such as chains with more than 20 locations, should be available to search for by name, but the name must be precisely spoken. Nicknames or short names for the businesses will not likely be found. Lesser known businesses might have to be located by category, such as fast food, hotels, or banks. "

So, the DMV is not considered a major chain. The system doesn't list categories and subcategoires when using VR. It expects you to have them memorized and know which POIs are within which categories. This is especially difficult since this information isn't published. However, you can see the categories and subcategories when using direct text entry. This is one of my main frustrations with the system.

Per your request I found my local DMV by doing the following:
Pressed the button and said Navigation, POI, "Public and Government".
The system responded by telling me to complete my selection using the screen.
I then sorted alphabetically and scrolled down to "Department of Motor Vehicles".

While not nearly as easy or elegant as AA it is what those of us that have pre-2016 vehicles have to live with.

 

Trust me, your condescension means nothing to me.

 

Interesting. This doesn't work in my 2015.

 

You do realize that sarcasm often doesn't come through in prose (and yours most definitely didn't come through). You didn't include a smiley as a hint and you added that you could prove it too (that Ken was so wrong about being satisfied).

And had you been paying attention I was asking Ken to prove that I was wrong, not that I was proving that he was wrong. He said the VR was "absolutely flawless". I wanted him to demonstrate that. To date he has failed to even try. I gave evidence of my experience, that it doesn't work. Documented visual evidence of it not working. All Ken needed to do was likewise provide similar evidence of his claim. He declined to do so and that is telling. This is what I was paying attention to. I don't know what you were saying as your words say one thing and you claim something totally different. Confusing and misleading at best

Perhaps but your claim means nothing to anybody unless you can back it up. And I still feel sorry for you.

Don't worry, it doesn't wok in Ken's '19 either.

 

Don't know enough about the 2015 to say (my last C7 was a 2014 that never had the NAV firmware reflashed).

Perhaps someone with one may chime in

 

To my knowledge, there have never been firmware updates for '14's nor '15's. In the '16's, hardware was changed to support things like Android Auto and a firmware update was available (in Mar 2016 IIRC) that would allow the new hardware in the '16's to be able to interact with Android Auto.

I don't think there were any firmware updates for '16-19's either - map updates but not firmware updates.

 

Perhaps you missed this (or perhaps you didn't and simply prefer to be a dick?)

Either way, I'm done with this. Don't strain your arm patting yourself on the back

 

Ken, I truly don't understand what you are talking about. Of course, I didn't "miss this". Hell, I ******* wrote it! I mean how out of touch much you be to ask if I missed what I actually wrote?!? And I stand by each and every word written therein and have yet to be shown them not to be true. There is absolutely nothing presented by you to refute a single point I made. I was not being a dick - I was being 100% correct, that is unless you wish to present evidence to the contrary, which, again, you neglected to do. Stating the truth is not being a dick - denying the truth is being a dick. You're fooling nobody here. It was YOU that said the VR was "absolutely flawless" - your words exactly - and yet not one shred of evidence of that flawless operation. OTOH I submitted video evidence of it not working. Go ahead deny that! Who's telling the truth here dude? Not you! This is not being a dick - this is the difference between somebody stating a claim and showing evidence that it is true as opposed to somebody just making a claim (i.e. you) and providing 0 evidence of its truth. Face it, dude - you were wrong and sure you can continue to ignore it and bow out, coward that you are - I understand when you can't show your correct, being ashamed and hiding in a hole. Must suck to be you...

 

Defaria , you are hell bent on convincing the world that the factory NAV "sucks " now the only problem that makes you loose all credibility is you state your facts then you demean the person replying who does not agree with your point of view ...does that make you feel better or superior over the individual who is making the post ...?

The OP asked a simple question and then you proceed to derail the whole thread with why everybody else but you is wrong and this happens in every thread you get involved in

Why don't you try making your points , which are all very good but leave the sarcasm out ?

Face it , that's why there is black and white ...... you might like one color and someone else likes another , neither one is wrong , you made your point .... let it die

Now please , don't disappoint me , belittle me or insult me as I would expect nothing less from you

Dave

 

You mean like after he calls me a dick right? Or was it after he was dodging my questions left and right?

Because when I'm attacked I attack back. I'm funny that way.

Because the point I was arguing was not an "I like vanilla, you like chocolate" thing. It was an objectively measurable thing (How often does VR work, how often does it fail). Ken made a claim. I first asked him for evidence. After he consistently failed to produce any I provided evidence contrary to his claim. Then he called me a dick. You caught up now?