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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 11:00 AM
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Mike@Soler - I had the same concern with the short wires. Why not make these longer so the controller box can be run up above the carpet line?

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Thanks, Bob. We'll definitely do that.

There is a way to install in which you can lace the controller-connector harness through the existing hole in the carpet and the controller would be completely behind the carpet. There is also a recess there where the controller fits under the carpet. We'll extend the harness nevertheless.
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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerEngr
Thanks, Bob. We'll definitely do that.

There is a way to install in which you can lace the controller-connector harness through the existing whole in the carpet and the controller would be completely behind the carpet. There is also a recess there where the controller fits under the carpet. We'll extend the harness nevertheless.
I only mentioned that it would be nice if the wires were a couple of inches longer for the ease of installation. Once it’s installed the length of the wires makes no difference. You never see it or have to deal with it again.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerEngr
Thanks, Bob. We'll definitely do that.

There is a way to install in which you can lace the controller-connector harness through the existing hole in the carpet and the controller would be completely behind the carpet. There is also a recess there where the controller fits under the carpet. We'll extend the harness nevertheless.
Fwiw that's how I installed mine and the wires are plenty long for that. Of course being a little longer wouldn't hurt.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerEngr
Thanks, Bob. We'll definitely do that.

There is a way to install in which you can lace the controller-connector harness through the existing hole in the carpet and the controller would be completely behind the carpet. There is also a recess there where the controller fits under the carpet. We'll extend the harness nevertheless.
Mike - is there any heat generated by the controller box? IE, is there any concern for placing this behind the carpet? If no, then the wire length would not have to extend to above the carpet line. Just so it is long enough to clear the pedal area where it meets the carpet. I wouldn't want to create another problem by having the cables too long either. I saw one picture with it attached to the side panel and I could see, for me, where this could be hit by my foot.
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Originally Posted by MrClean21
Mike - is there any heat generated by the controller box? IE, is there any concern for placing this behind the carpet? If no, then the wire length would not have to extend to above the carpet line. Just so it is long enough to clear the pedal area where it meets the carpet. I wouldn't want to create another problem by having the cables too long either. I saw one picture with it attached to the side panel and I could see, for me, where this could be hit by my foot.
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Bob I didn't notice any heat but Mike can tell you better than I can. I put mine behind the carpet. I just pulled the carpet back and connected to the box and then threaded the wire back through the hole in the floor. There was plenty of room but no extra wire doing it like that. I've put maybe 1000 miles on the car since then and had no issue.
I ran the wire to the control head to the center console under the armrest. That way it was easy to adjust and I can change is easier on track days,
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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerEngr
Rckt, like Spanky said. Our products won't disable AFM. In my personal case, AFM works great in my 2015 A8, I have TB+TC. Try these, and if you think you still need an AFM disabler go for it.

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So this is similar to the Pedal commander and vitesse controller? Also, will this void mfg warranty?
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rckt
So this is similar to the Pedal commander and vitesse controller? Also, will this void mfg warranty?
Depending on your dealer they could try and use anything to void your warranty. This does adjust your pedal so that your car is more responsive to pedal input.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MrClean21
Mike - is there any heat generated by the controller box? IE, is there any concern for placing this behind the carpet? If no, then the wire length would not have to extend to above the carpet line. Just so it is long enough to clear the pedal area where it meets the carpet. I wouldn't want to create another problem by having the cables too long either. I saw one picture with it attached to the side panel and I could see, for me, where this could be hit by my foot.
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Bob, yes, but it is so little that it can be considered negligible. So, no concerns.
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Originally Posted by rckt
So this is similar to the Pedal commander and vitesse controller? Also, will this void mfg warranty?
Yes.
Part-wise (controller to controller), very similar. We offer a wider variety of settings.
Price-wise (dollar for dollar), we offer a modified throttle body plus the controller, a much better/complete solution to the whole throttle delay and power delivery issue.
Warranty-wise, it is completely under your control. Haven't heard of a single case with our products or any similar one for that matter.
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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerEngr
Yes.
Part-wise (controller to controller), very similar. We offer a wider variety of settings.
Price-wise (dollar for dollar), we offer a modified throttle body plus the controller, a much better/complete solution to the whole throttle delay and power delivery issue.
Warranty-wise, it is completely under your control. Haven't heard of a single case with our products or any similar one for that matter.
I was thinking of picking up a used PC or Vitesse TC then saw yours. If al I wanted is better throttle response, i.e. more of a linear feel, could I just buy the TC and not the TB? When I had a BMW 335i, the car was a different animal when in Sport mode. The Corvette is tame unless you almost punch it. I want more of the sport mode.
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Originally Posted by rckt
I was thinking of picking up a used PC or Vitesse TC then saw yours. If al I wanted is better throttle response, i.e. more of a linear feel, could I just buy the TC and not the TB? When I had a BMW 335i, the car was a different animal when in Sport mode. The Corvette is tame unless you almost punch it. I want more of the sport mode.
You can. It really does change the feel a lot. I have both because I have an m7 and there's an off idle stumble that probably wouldn't be felt as much with an a8. If you have an m7 I'd suggest both. It makes for a totally different experience from a dead stop.
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Rckt, I think you'll benefit from either one independently, but they together add to more than the sum of them.

The difference is that the "throttle controller" is actually a pedal controller. The only thing that can linearize/smooth the actual throttle response is the actual throttle body.

The TB controls shape of the curve and reacts better by allowing more air/power for every throttle position.

The TC controls the rate at which you move through that curve by simulating a greater pedal stroke than actual.

They are both good things.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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Mike,

Love the PTB and TC. What a world of difference this made to my C7. Completely night and day from the factory setting.

Now, if you only made these for my wife's '17 Tahoe. The pedal on that car is mush. It needs a jolt.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 04:13 PM
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Thanks, Hawk.

We'll get there eventually. Working on one for the GM trucks now, GM SUV's are not that far off. We'll let you know.
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Added this thread to explain, those interested may find their answers there. I hope it helps.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ar-wheels.html
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I have the Soler PTB and TC, love ‘em. I’ve read posts until I’m crosseyed but could not find a discussion about how the different throttle curves from Sport and Track mode interact with the TC. I’ll admit I haven’t experimented with it yet but does the TC override the throttle curve changes or exaggerate them on the Mode settings?
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Originally Posted by JackTBear
I have the Soler PTB and TC, love ‘em. I’ve read posts until I’m crosseyed but could not find a discussion about how the different throttle curves from Sport and Track mode interact with the TC. I’ll admit I haven’t experimented with it yet but does the TC override the throttle curve changes or exaggerate them on the Mode settings?
I don't think there's a thread that compares them. In tour I ended up with 2.2 I believe and I think 1.3 or 1.4 in track. You really have to live with it a while to see what works best but that's where I ended up. I use tour on the street and track on the track and rarely ever use sport mode. I'm not sure what you get other than a stiffer ride. I've tracked my car at VIR in tour mode and it was in the low 2's so you really don't give up much in tour.
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I don't think there's a thread that compares them. In tour I ended up with 2.2 I believe and I think 1.3 or 1.4 in track. You really have to live with it a while to see what works best but that's where I ended up. I use tour on the street and track on the track and rarely ever use sport mode. I'm not sure what you get other than a stiffer ride. I've tracked my car at VIR in tour mode and it was in the low 2's so you really don't give up much in tour.
Thanks. That’s interesting point about only the stiffer ride from the mag shocks on Mode changes.
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I keep my steering in track mode all the time so maybe the difference isn't as apparent to me.
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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 11:41 AM
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What are you guys doing with these TC's if you take your car in for service? My understanding is if you just unplug the TC lcd display unit that it puts the car into limp mode? So its either hide the lcd display or remove everything all together before taking it in?
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