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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Yes and don't forget they said :

The phone has to be connected directly to them after with the USB cable the only cable at Mike Vu’s is the same cable to use for charging no other cables such as lightning to HDMI can be used then if your phone Siri is enabled and you purchase the CarPlay for 549 to begin with the CarPlay will appear on the screen

What should I understand in this sentence?
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The phone has to be connected directly to them after with the USB cable the only cable at Mike Vu’s is the same cable to use for charging no other cables such as lightning to HDMI can be used then if your phone Siri is enabled and you purchase the CarPlay for 549 to begin with the CarPlay will appear on the screen

I can't make sense of that either! It seems to say that everything should work with a regular USB cable that charges the phone. All you need do is use that cable and Siri will work. If the other cables are connected, Siri won't work. Well, heck, I rarely use Siri on the phone!

When you are hooked up with the USB, have you tried placing your finger on the top left NAV screen and holding it there for 15 seconds or so?

That might work with Siri. The HDMI connection would simply disable the use of Siri.

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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 12:52 PM
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Siri is necessary with Carplay.
I tried but not as long...I will try now. Hang a minute
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 01:11 PM
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Well..An other problem...I loose the touchscreen...I tried to reboot my Navtool box but screen Blank ! After 2/3 try, Screen looks ok but still no touchscreen..I really don't understand....Box wrong ?
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 01:18 PM
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Sounds like eqpt issue or wiring is not complete or correct. Something is not correct.

Did you make sure your wiring and connections were as the ones in the new thread someone started on Navtool 5.0? I'll look for the thread.


Here: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ll-thread.html



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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 01:23 PM
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This morning, the touchscreen worked and I did not touch the car for the day. It was by testing the 15 seconds that the touchscreen disappeared, then the screen became blank during another test, then after 2/3 tests, the screen returned but still no touchscreen.
During the initial assembly, I had the same problems but I thought that it was finished. So the wiring seems correct and the plugs well inserted. For me, either the wiring is defective or it is the case.
I did not find an installation with 5.0 and I do not have the corresponding installation manual.
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 02:28 AM
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hi Elmer.

I watched the discussion on the NavTool 5.0 and my wiring which goes on the Radio module is different from the fact that on the forum 5.0 the wire which leaves from the passenger side to go to the driver side is unique (1 single wire) while mine 4 wire (Black, yellow, red and green). Likewise the wiring with the video going to the driver side also seems different. Is this the problem? My concern is that I can't get Navtool's technical service to understand that there is a problem and that this problem seems to them (Bad box, bad cables, etc.). Look on my picture above and look the wiring on the thread about navtool 5.0 and you will see the difference....
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 09:39 AM
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Mine has the 4 wires from the passenger side to the Navtool on at the driver's side. It sounds like yours is similar to mine and needs the HDMI cable to mirror the iPhone to the Navtool and then to the NAV screen. Get the HDMI cable and try it. The cable is cheap and if it gives you the mirroring, you can use the NAV screen. You just can't use "Siri".

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Yes i will try tomorrow. I still have my problem of touchscreenn i’m waiting for navtool response.
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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 03:01 AM
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Hi Elmer. Good Morning.
Just one question : Do you have 2 LEDs that light up (1 green and 1 blue) each time you turn on the ignition ?

now, I go to buy the HDMI cable and i will reboot the Box to have, i hope, my factory screen light up !!!

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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Hi Elmer. Good Morning.
Just one question : Do you have 2 LEDs that light up (1 green and 1 blue) each time you turn on the ignition ?

now, I go to buy the HDMI cable and i will reboot the Box to have, i hope, my factory screen light up !!!

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It's been a couple of years since I've hung upside down and messed with the Navtool box. It might have 12 beady blue eyes and a tail for all I can remember!


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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
It's been a couple of years since I've hung upside down and messed with the Navtool box. It might have 12 beady blue eyes and a tail for all I can remember!


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Btw, Navtool is obsolete now.

For $66 altogether, you can buy a great camera and wireless transmitter that mounts easily (without running wiring into the cabin), plays live on your phone and can be recorded there, and mirrors to Carplay through carbridge. You can use the factory touchscreen to control the functions as well. All for either ios or android.

But you guys can keep wasting money on Navtool if it makes you feel better in a global recession/ depression.

I described the install on my C7Z in another thread with videos. (I do not get any $ for pushing the idea.)

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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Parcival
Btw, Navtool is obsolete now.

For $66 altogether, you can buy a great camera and wireless transmitter that mounts easily (without running wiring into the cabin), plays live on your phone and can be recorded there, and mirrors to Carplay through carbridge. You can use the factory touchscreen to control the functions as well. All for either ios or android.

But you guys can keep wasting money on Navtool if it makes you feel better in a global recession/ depression.

I described the install on my C7Z in another thread with videos. (I do not get any $ for pushing the idea.)
Will it work on an 2014 or 2015 Corvette without Carplay?

So, you need carplay 2014 and 2015s don't have that. (No Carplay, so my car is dead for the $66 application)
Jailbreak your phone for a Cydia downloader to install a "Cambridge" APP or something (Not happening on my iPhone)
Put a rocker switch in your dash somewhere. (Not happening on my car)
Get a wifi App, WIFIAV iPhone app that is matched to the transmitter. (Not needed with Navtool)


So, Navtool is obsolete? Sure doesn't sound like it is. To get carplay, I need to spend ~$500 to update the car to get carplay and I lose some features that work on my 2014 by doing that? Where's the obsolete and 8X cheaper part of this equation?

(I do not get any $ for pushing the idea.)

However, I will listen to you plan if I have misread something.

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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
Will it work on an 2014 or 2015 Corvette without Carplay?

So, you need carplay 2014 and 2015s don't have that. (No Carplay, so my car is dead for the $66 application)
Jailbreak your phone for a Cydia downloader to install a "Cambridge" APP or something (Not happening on my iPhone)
Put a rocker switch in your dash somewhere. (Not happening on my car)
Get a wifi App, WIFIAV iPhone app that is matched to the transmitter. (Not needed with Navtool)

So, Navtool is obsolete? Sure doesn't sound like it is. To get carplay, I need to spend ~$500 to update the car to get carplay and I lose some features that work on my 2014 by doing that? Where's the obsolete and 8X cheaper part of this equation?

(I do not get any $ for pushing the idea.)

However, I will listen to you plan if I have misread something
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no rocker switch! Guess you don’t understand how it’s done...turn on the car. It connects to your phone. Use the touchscreen like your touching your phone screen.

sorry ... but yes Navtool was made absolutely obsolete when CarPlay compatibility was added to current OS...I can now mirror anything that works on my phone to my factory screen... I used to have a Commodore 64 and an 8-track tape too and I used to program in BASIC but I upgraded...

Because of the dropping price of the car play factory upgrade and the rising price of Navtool, it’s basically the same price ($500 ) to add CarPlay to an old Vette.

Hey, i get it. If you don’t own Navtool stock, you wasted time wiring Navtool into your cabin. It took me an hour of work total including front camera install and software upgrade. Simple fuse tap, never needed to modify the cabin, didn’t pull up any carpet. of course your car, your choice !



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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Parcival
sorry ... but yes Navtool was made absolutely obsolete when CarPlay compatibility was added to current OS...I can now mirror anything that works on my phone to my factory screen... I used to have a Commodore 64 and an 8-track tape too and I used to program in BASIC but I upgraded...

Because of the dropping price of the car play factory upgrade and the rising price of Navtool, it’s basically the same price ($500 ) to add CarPlay to an old Vette.

Hey, i get it. You wasted time wiring Navtool into your cabin. It took me an hour of work total including front camera install and software upgrade. Simple fuse tap, never needed to modify the cabin, didn’t pull up any carpet. of course your car, your choice !

What am I missing? Do you need carplay in your car or not? How does one get carplay in a 2014 - 2015 Corvette? The Navtool also works in the C6.

If this can be done without having carplay capability in the car, then you have a position to talk.

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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
What am I missing? Do you need carplay in your car or not? How does one get carplay in a 2014 - 2015 Corvette? The Navtool also works in the C6.

If this can be done without having carplay capability in the car, then you have a position to talk.

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Hey Elmer, I said Already you need CarPlay. I always have a position to talk... not sure why you’re so resistant to a factory upgrade.

But do what you want. Personally I would rather pay the same money for the factory upgrade than Navtool. Easier and more functional.

I don’t know if there is a factory upgrade for CarPlay on a C6 because I haven’t bothered to look and I have two 2017+ C7s.

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Originally Posted by Parcival
Hey Elmer, I said Already you need CarPlay. I always have a position to talk... not sure why you’re so resistant to a factory upgrade.

But do what you want. Personally I would rather pay the same money for the factory upgrade than Navtool. Easier and more functional.

I don’t know if there is a factory upgrade for CarPlay on a C6 because I haven’t bothered to look and I have two 2017+ C7s.

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Not trying to argue with you but upgrading my car is quite normal for me. I mod the hell out of it. The upgrade of the HMI removes some functions (I believe I read this somewhere) and you lose some functionality with the settings on the NAV screen, I don't know the exact ones but I didn't feel that losing functionality of some of my current settings or options was a fair trade for carplay. Yes, I could change the unit for carplay for about the same money as the Navtool but I don't want to lose my limited functionality that the car currently has. I don't have PDR either, updating to that is too much for me to do. I put in a Blackview, not exactly the same but it'll do.

Anyone that wants to use your method for their car has my endorsement. The Navtool does require some carpet wiggling, wiring, and a camera installation. But the word "Obsolete" is hanging in the wind for discussion over validity!


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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
Not trying to argue with you but upgrading my car is quite normal for me. I mod the hell out of it. The upgrade of the HMI removes some functions (I believe I read this somewhere) and you lose some functionality with the settings on the NAV screen, I don't know the exact ones but I didn't feel that losing functionality of some of my current settings or options was a fair trade for carplay. Yes, I could change the unit for carplay for about the same money as the Navtool but I don't want to lose my limited functionality that the car currently has. I don't have PDR either, updating to that is too much for me to do. I put in a Blackview, not exactly the same but it'll do.

Anyone that wants to use your method for their car has my endorsement. The Navtool does require some carpet wiggling, wiring, and a camera installation. But the word "Obsolete" is hanging in the wind for discussion over validity!


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fair point abt my use of “obsolete”! Just another option then.

good details.

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Where is your install video on your $66 front wireless camera?

Would like to take a look see.
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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Where is your install video on your $66 front wireless camera?

Would like to take a look see.
It’s install walkthrough with pics and a video of the camera in action. here u go:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...1lz-ios13.html

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