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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 06:55 PM
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I will try to get a pic of my mirror and the part number on it. I'm curious if there are two part numbers for the mirror (camaro/corvette); although I doubt it.

Yes, both of those mirrors are the wrong mirror mount.

I have a couple of tidbits for this project and those who may someday do this project.
First, the plastic cover comes from a company in Holland MI. It is called EssTec, and they mold this component for GM.
Second, the camera GM uses on all current programs is from Valeo. Whether or not Valeo cameras are available thru amazon, alibaba, or somewhere else, I don't know. It is the same camera for the Cadillac applications. Not all cameras for these mirror displays are the same, but at least keeping within the GM family the camera is the same.

I'll get a video posted tomorrow of the mirror/video functioning. I tried to to get one this morning, but I screwed up the settings.
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 08:09 AM
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So I am trying to come up with a complete list of parts for this project. Permit me to list what I know / do not know.
  • Mirror - GM part number 84566425 (Camaro version) - be careful that any used mirrors provide the cover. I see one that does not.
  • Will OnStar through a code if the old mirror is gone?
  • Video Cable - Ebay (from China) Antenna Extension Cable FAKRA A to C 19.68FT 6m GPS Aerial Car Navigation Radio
  • Mirror main connector - 4 pin. Anyone have a Mouser Part number for the part to make the mirror connect?
  • Is there a power connector for the camera needed? .
  • Camera
    • Either buy a Camaro spoiler to get the camera
    • or need a GM part number which may be unavailable as a separate part?
  • Housing for Camera - looks like fabrication is required
Any help in identifying the pieces parts would be most appreciated!

On another note, as another forum member posted, there seems to be an aftermarket system available made by Gentex, called the Digital Vision system. https://www.gentex.com/products-tech...igital-vision/
available here: https://www.voxxelectronics.com/gent...lay-rear-view/

Looking at the instructions for the Digital Vision System, https://www.voxxelectronics.com/docs...NFDM3LN_IM.pdf one can clearly see that the mirror uses a standard wedge mount, which I assume would not be compatible with the C7 mirror mount. Also, the DVS rear camera mounts in the interior of the rear window. With the very sharp angle of the C7 glass, and also the C7 design etched into the rear glass, I am not sure we would get a nice picture?

Gentex seems to have a camera mounted on a shark fin as another item but I am not sure how to order it - but I am not sure I would want to drill into my halo to wire it.



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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 09:48 AM
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I've got the connector part numbers. I thought I had posted them to the other thread, but apparently I didn't. I'll get those up tonight.

We need to get the part numbers for the C8 camera. Another possibility is the 2019+ Camaro ZL1. It was mounted in the satellite antenna, just like the picture Flame Red posted. Gentex makes the OEM system, so that's not surprising. I haven't been able to find a part number for the ZL1 + DRZ shark fin either.





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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 10:36 AM
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I don't think I'd care for the look of that fin on a C7.
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 10:49 AM
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Any chance Gentex would divulge the P/N for the C8 camera?? Is it worth an email to them?
Thanks Guns/Flame/Jeff V for sharing all the pertinent information. This is something I would definitely like to do.
I was sitting there last night thinking of questions I had about this and I think Flame covered all of them with his post. Main one was if the camera required power or does that come from the video connection from the mirror to the camera.
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DWillys
I don't think I'd care for the look of that fin on a C7.
I don't really want anything on top of my car, but there's no room to sink the camera down inside the halo. It needs to stay above the edge of the hatch glass. It only sticks up about an inch though. I'm optimistic I can get something that looks decent. I'm aiming for something similar to the C8 enclosure.

If you're not as picky as I am about placement, I think it would mount inside the spoiler nicely.

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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 12:06 PM
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Jeff since you got the camera out of a Camaro spoiler, is there a separate power connectors on that camera also? If so, can you please post the Mouser part number for those also

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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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It does power and data over the same coax cable. It's like some kind of voodoo.
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 07:40 PM
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Does the video/power feed for the camera come out of the bottom or back?
can someone post a pic of the camera itself?
I’m thinking......(yeah I know...dangerous)
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 11:12 AM
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The connector comes out the back.





Here's the connectors you'll need for powering the mirror. The C7 schematic also listed a reverse light signal, but the wire wasn't present in the harness on my car. So you really just need the two wires. Power and ground. If it's not obvious, this also deletes your OnStar controls. I couldn't care less, but some people might.



These are the connector and terminal part numbers. They're available from Mouser.

ARVWSB-12BC-2AK Qty 1
SNAC3W-A021T-0.64 Qty 2
AIT2PB-10P-2AK Qty 1
SAITW-A03T-064 Qty 2 Corrected PN: SAIT-A03T-M064

Order extra terminals. They're less than $0.15 each and they're easy to screw up if you don't have the right crimper. I'd be willing to make up a handful of adapters if anyone is interested. I really just need to cover the shipping from Mouser, and then to the buyer. $10 all-in maybe?
Post up if you're interested.

For reference, here's the original thread I posted. There's some additional info in there about how I'm trying to mount the camera in my halo cover.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ra-mirror.html

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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 12:22 PM
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Jeff,
Thanks for the shot of the camera and the connector info.
The reason I was asking about the video feed orientation on the camera was I was thinking of alternate places to mount the camera. Guns has his just above the license plate and your toying with the halo location and evidently the Camaro has it in the spoiler. If there is room behind the rear fascia I was thinking about this location (green dot).

I know that gives some people the heebie jeebies, cutting into a perfectly good car but I dont really want to drill the halo. Provided there is enuff room I wouldnt sweat drilling the hole where the dot is. I dont think it detracts from the rear on a dark car, may look funky on white or the other lighter colors. It also appears from Guns pics that just above the license plate gives a pretty good rear view, we know the halo view would be good as well.
Other concern I guess would be any electrical interference between the 3rd brake light and the video feed.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 02:04 PM
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I think that would be a great location. I don't think I'd worry too much about interference. As far as I can tell, it's a shielded cable. You could make a fairly simple bracket and then glue it to the inside of the bumper with some kind of panel bond. GM does exactly that with some of the internal brackets for the body.
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Originally Posted by Jeff V.
I think that would be a great location. I don't think I'd worry too much about interference. As far as I can tell, it's a shielded cable. You could make a fairly simple bracket and then glue it to the inside of the bumper with some kind of panel bond. GM does exactly that with some of the internal brackets for the body.
What I was thinking, provided there is enuff room back there.
One other quick question, is there any motion to that camera? I'm not familiar with the Camaro version. This isnt something that will move when the mirror itself is moved correct i.e. lens travels up/down, left/right or in/out?
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Oh I like this thread. WHen there is a complete list of all the parts needed, I'm going to get serious about this mod.

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Just snagged a Camaro spoiler with camera installed local.....1 part down, several to go!
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 05:46 PM
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Has anyone taken a look for the cables and camera on the internet by searching for the CT6 or other GM models? The XT5/4 each now have this mirror. The CT6 has two generations of the mirror, and from what I can see on the internet, the 2019 is the camaro/corvette generation.

There were a couple video cables on ebay for an escalade camera mirror. they were 70 each. I don't know if the connections are the correct type.

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Originally Posted by 2019GSTX
One other quick question, is there any motion to that camera? I'm not familiar with the Camaro version. This isnt something that will move when the mirror itself is moved correct i.e. lens travels up/down, left/right or in/out?
The mirror/video display has a "pan" and "zoom" feature that allow the displayed image to be adjusted. Putting the camera in the right position (left right) is necessary, but pretty fool proof. If my camera gets knocked, it would need to be adjusted. I've never had to adjust it.

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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff V.
The Camaro PN is 84566425. It's "with video display, RPO DRZ". I don't know if the PN for the C8 is the same or not. I haven't found anyone with a C8 parts catalog yet.

The number is printed on the back of the mirror. It'd be interesting to know if The Guns has the same PN or not.
Verified. My mirror has 84566425 on the back of it.

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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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I recall seeing that mirror/camera in a Buick SUV probably a Model Year 2019 or 2020, so I think it may be on more older GM cars than just Camaro & Cadillac. Perhaps Buick parts might be less expensive or more available than Cadillac? ...easier to get the camera only (without the "spoiler")?
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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I've looked at other cars cameras, but it's tough to know for sure if they're right without a cross reference in the parts catalog. Something like this looks right, but I'm not sure if it's for the mirror, or the surround view that shows on the center console.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-2...QAAOSwYMFfGzQl
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