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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 05:56 PM
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The only way to be sure if your C7 has the hook receptacles is to look in the front grill and remove the rear cover plate.
Our 2017 has both ends, I bought the GM hook and keep it in the foam over the battery cover like owc6 mentioned.
I also keep a pair of the T-hooks for the frame slots in our cubby but not the bridle because it takes up too much space. Be aware that if the car is too low to the ground (flat tire, stuck in mud or snow, etc) you may not be able to reach the frame slots.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
I agree. My ‘14 does not have a front or rear tow hook receptacle.
My 2017 doesn't have one either. I believe it is only the Z51 models that have them.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 09:34 PM
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I second that!
Tow hooks/straps are the new mud flaps. Meaning the guys who constantly have them in for looks like all the kids with their colorful mud flaps
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 09:36 PM
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As far as the "V-bridle" goes' there's probably 100 different towing scenarios where it will work wonderfully, and probably near as many where it won't. But for only a $55 investment I will take my chances rather than be left at the mercy of whatever Buba tow truck driver happens to have on hand to pull my C7 up on his rig. Too many horror stories of C7s being damaged as a result of towing.
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 12:00 AM
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As far as the "V-bridle" goes' there's probably 100 different towing scenarios where it will work wonderfully, and probably near as many where it won't. But for only a $55 investment I will take my chances rather than be left at the mercy of whatever Buba tow truck driver happens to have on hand to pull my C7 up on his rig. Too many horror stories of C7s being damaged as a result of towing.
Here ya go again with your posting fairy tales included with your usual fear-mongering. I searched the forum and could not find a single "horror" story you mention. Your post indicates there are "Too many". I see a trend with your posts that will overstate what your belief is but you will never provide any factual data to support your case. Maybe you can point out to the forum 5 posts on the C7 CF that indicated damaged C7s as a result of loading a C7 on a tow-truck (ie, your typical "horror story" you mention). I would like to read them. Most tow trucks can accommodate a C7 tow onto a flat bed without an owner providing a bridle. Toe hooks are a perfect solution but not essential to getting the vehicle loaded on the truck. Most tow trucks are equipped their winches centered on their lifting bed. Your toe hook receptacle is only about 18 inch off the centerline of the C7. So this geometric alignment would not present any difficulty in lifting a C7 on to the bed from the roadway (I never drive my C7 off-road). I could find no reported instances of this ever occurring. Bridles were popular with those early C7 owners that did not have toe hook receptacles equipped with their vehicles (toe hook receptacles first appeared in Dec 2014 on the 2015 Z51). They had no other alternative back then but to use a bridle. Only 5 percent of Corvette owners ever track their vehicles (not HPDE) so GM did not redesign the C7 to install a toe hook receptacle just to accommodate less than 5% of C7 Corvette owners. They re-engineered the vehicle to include this capability primarily for emergency towing purposes. I think this decision is one that GM got right.
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MMD
Here ya go again with your posting fairy tales included with your usual fear-mongering. I searched the forum and could not find a single "horror" story you mention. Your post indicates there are "Too many". I see a trend with your posts that will overstate what your belief is but you will never provide any factual data to support your case. Maybe you can point out to the forum 5 posts on the C7 CF that indicated damaged C7s as a result of loading a C7 on a tow-truck (ie, your typical "horror story" you mention). I would like to read them. Most tow trucks can accommodate a C7 tow onto a flat bed without an owner providing a bridle. Toe hooks are a perfect solution but not essential to getting the vehicle loaded on the truck. Most tow trucks are equipped their winches centered on their lifting bed. Your toe hook receptacle is only about 18 inch off the centerline of the C7. So this geometric alignment would not present any difficulty in lifting a C7 on to the bed from the roadway (I never drive my C7 off-road). I could find no reported instances of this ever occurring. Bridles were popular with those early C7 owners that did not have toe hook receptacles equipped with their vehicles (toe hook receptacles first appeared in Dec 2014 on the 2015 Z51). They had no other alternative back then but to use a bridle. Only 5 percent of Corvette owners ever track their vehicles (not HPDE) so GM did not redesign the C7 to install a toe hook receptacle just to accommodate less than 5% of C7 Corvette owners. They re-engineered the vehicle to include this capability primarily for emergency towing purposes. I think this decision is one that GM got right.
My forum posts are based on hands on practical experience as a result of my owning dozens of Corvettes and being very active in the Corvette community over the last 44 years, not only this forum. Unlike you where your knowledge or more lack of such is totally based on what you can goggle search.
You don't even own a Corvette, yet are always act as you know it ALL and everyone else is wrong. It must really suck to be you.
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
My forum posts are based on hands on practical experience as a result of my owning dozens of Corvettes and being very active in the Corvette community over the last 44 years, not only this forum. Unlike you where your knowledge or more lack of such is totally based on what you can goggle search.
You don't even own a Corvette, yet are always act as you know it ALL and everyone else is wrong. It must really suck to be you.
Ignorance is bliss. Your 44 years apparently has taught you very little. So then, your post is an affirmation your claim of "too many" horror stories was a just bunch of BS like most everything else you post. My search engine is all stored in my brain. What a lame response, but then I kind of expected this from you. It must suck being an uneducated cretin.
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MMD
Ignorance is bliss. Your 44 years apparently has taught you very little. So then, your post is an affirmation your claim of "too many" horror stories was a just bunch of BS like most everything else you post. My search engine is all stored in my brain. What a lame response, but then I kind of expected this from you. It must suck being an uneducated cretin.
Just looking at my title block, I notice I have received right at 4000 Post "Likes" in just 3 years as a participant on this forum, so I take that as a pretty good indicator that most here don't share your opinion that my posts are BS, but rather are much appreciated .


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I say both of you do a tow test on each car. One with a hook and one iwth the bridles. I like both ideas, btw.
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Shirl
I say both of you do a tow test on each car. One with a hook and one iwth the bridles. I like both ideas, btw.
Hello Shirl, if you look at my above posts you will see that I'm not debating here whether tow hooks or V-bridles are better, I haven't even mentioned tow hooks.
All I'm saying is that V-bridles are good insurance for only $55 to avoid being at the mercy of "whatever" chains/straps/hooks a flat-bed driver may happen to have on hand when he/she comes to tow your C7.

I have friends who have had C7s damaged when being dragged up on flatbeds.

Also, the below "T' hooks are handy (also have them in my truck cubby) to have on hand to tie your C7 onto the flat bed the same way GM ties them down to the train cars for delivery.
I have one friend who had all (4) wheels scratched to hell as a result of flatbed driver running tie-down straps through his wheels to secure C7 to flatbed.

And yes, I have a lot of friends/acquaintances that have experienced all sorts of Corvette issues that I hear about which is understandable considering my being very involved in the Corvette community for 44 years.





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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
Hello Shirl, if you look at my above posts you will see that I'm not debating here whether tow hooks or V-bridles are better, I haven't even mentioned tow hooks.
All I'm saying is that V-bridles are good insurance for only $55 to avoid being at the mercy of "whatever" chains/straps/hooks a flat-bed driver may happen to have on hand when he/she comes to tow your C7.

I have friends who have had C7s damaged when being dragged up on flatbeds.

Also, the below "T' hooks are handy (also have them in my truck cubby) to have on hand to tie your C7 onto the flat bed the same way GM ties them down to the train cars for delivery.
I have one friend who had all (4) wheels scratched to hell as a result of flatbed driver running tie-down straps through his wheels to secure C7 to flatbed.

And yes, I have a lot of friends/acquaintances that have experienced all sorts of Corvette issues that I hear about which is understandable considering my being very involved in the Corvette community for 44 years.
But he can't come up with any posts on CF, like he claimed earlier, of anyone damaging their C7 using a toe hook. I asked for 5 references and he could not provide any. Also, tying down a C7 on a flat bed and marring the wheels has absolutely nothing to do with winching a C7 on to a flatbed with a tow hook. He exaggerates to the point of extremes because he is never able to substantiate any of his views. KAJ is legend in his own mind.
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
Hello Shirl, if you look at my above posts you will see that I'm not debating here whether tow hooks or V-bridles are better, I haven't even mentioned tow hooks.
All I'm saying is that V-bridles are good insurance for only $55 to avoid being at the mercy of "whatever" chains/straps/hooks a flat-bed driver may happen to have on hand when he/she comes to tow your C7.

I have friends who have had C7s damaged when being dragged up on flatbeds.

Also, the below "T' hooks are handy (also have them in my truck cubby) to have on hand to tie your C7 onto the flat bed the same way GM ties them down to the train cars for delivery.
I have one friend who had all (4) wheels scratched to hell as a result of flatbed driver running tie-down straps through his wheels to secure C7 to flatbed.

And yes, I have a lot of friends/acquaintances that have experienced all sorts of Corvette issues that I hear about which is understandable considering my being very involved in the Corvette community for 44 years.

Hey Kevin. I know exactly what you are saying here. You never said tow hooks are no good. I like your idea of using the bridles. In your opinion, would the bridles rub or stress the front splitter when the car is dragged up a flatbed? That would be my concern. And yes, I've had a car damaged being towed from the track. My 4th gen Camaro was damaged on the way off of the flatbed (in my driveway) when my front spoiler was dragged down the slant of the flatbed.
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 09:13 PM
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I have the set from ZL1 Add Ons. I use them on the track and the longer one for the front fits perfectly between the front grill slots. I keep them in the rear storage cubby in case I ever need a street tow. Sometimes I will install the front hook at shows as I think they look better than the creepy leaning faceless dolls.



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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 09:21 PM
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I have the set from ZL1 Add Ons. I use them on the track and the longer one for the front fits perfectly between the front grill slots. I keep them in the rear storage cubby in case I ever need a street tow. Sometimes I will install the front hook at shows as I think they look better than the creepy leaning faceless dolls.


They looks great. Is there any way you know of to adopt that hook so it fits within the foam cover found on top of the battery? Any aftermarket solutions? Also, could you use the front hook in the vehicle rear receptacle?

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Originally Posted by MMD
They looks great. Is there any way you know of to adopt that hook so it fits within the foam cover found on top of the battery? Any aftermarket solutions? Also, could you use the front hook in the vehicle rear receptacle?
I checked to see if either of the hooks fit on the foam cover and they do not. No big deal as I have plenty of room in the cubby and access is easier than pulling back the carpet for access to the battery. I believe the longer front hook would fit in the rear tow hook receptacle, but I haven’t tried it.
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Old Oct 23, 2020 | 11:19 PM
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I've got the ZL1Addon tow hooks and they are stainless and black. I track occasionally but just leave them in. The black ones are more subtle than red. I don't think they look ricer at all. No issues with the front grill either.
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I've got the ZL1Addon tow hooks and they are stainless and black. I track occasionally but just leave them in. The black ones are more subtle than red. I don't think they look ricer at all. No issues with the front grill either.
I think it is a matter of taste, and practicality.

I had a LRG Vert, and there is no way I would have put them in and left them (even if the car had the receptacles which it didn't). Then there is my CRY Z06 where the front tow hook doesn't look bad at all.

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my Z had a tow hook on the front when i got it, and i don't care enough either way to remove it. i certainly don't care if someone thinks it looks bad, they cant even see the front end of my car when they're in my rear view mirror. the head of the bolt for the eye piece has some surface rust though, that i might do something about. its not all foo-foo black and red colored, so im assuming its some kind of OEM item. a decent stainless steel bolt from mcmaster should do the trick, next time i happen to think about it. one case for leaving a tow hook in place is one less thing for a tow truck guy to mess up. further, that v strap thing looks like it'll apply upward pressure on the underside of your bumper and/or splitter. dumb idea, imo. obviously its fine if the winching is being applied from a very, very low height as with a ****** block or something, but what flatbed ever does such things?
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Originally Posted by Shirl
Hey Kevin. I know exactly what you are saying here. You never said tow hooks are no good. I like your idea of using the bridles. In your opinion, would the bridles rub or stress the front splitter when the car is dragged up a flatbed? That would be my concern. And yes, I've had a car damaged being towed from the track. My 4th gen Camaro was damaged on the way off of the flatbed (in my driveway) when my front spoiler was dragged down the slant of the flatbed.
Not if you get the correct length that is sized for the C7, which the bridle that Cherokee offers (above eBay link) is such.
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Old Oct 24, 2020 | 09:37 AM
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Having had to tow my C6/C7 four times, I will say it is not the bridle or lack thereof that is the problem. It it the transition to and from the flatbed itself. Boards to help make the angle less severe definitely help.

Pulling it up usually isn''t as big a problem as letting it down, unless you have a splitter. The air dam is designed to bend under the car, but not designed to bend backwards. That's where most of the damage occurs.

If you have a flat front tire, then God Bless You, you are going to need some help from beyond.
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