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Old Apr 27, 2026 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ooze
I leave my range device plugged in all the time. How well it prevents AFM failure is debatable.
It has a hypothesis but there is no way to prove it one way or the other. IIRC, manual cars also have had lifter failure so..... My Diablo I3 will do that, make the engine run a bit better (so some have said), firms up the shift and adjust the throttle tip in a bit. More expensive but does way more.
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Old May 17, 2026 | 10:54 PM
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Had mine delivered two days before getting my car. Plugged it in before I took the first drive. It stays plugged in b/c mine is a daily driver.
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Old May 18, 2026 | 09:01 AM
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I installed my Range device one week after I took delivery of my 2019 GS on October 2, 2018. I leave it plugged in except when I have to take it to the dealership. I usually remove it about 2 days before my appointment. No issues and no V4.
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Old May 19, 2026 | 10:06 AM
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I put the Range device in because I was afraid of valve failure and engine damage. If GM’s afm was bulletproof I would not be using the Range device.
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Old May 19, 2026 | 11:11 AM
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I sold the range unit and got a programmed solution from Diblew. Better Throttle Tip I, better shifting and no AFM if that is going to be important.
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Old May 19, 2026 | 02:03 PM
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I have had the Range device plugged in for about 4 months and I think the car actually drives better without AFM activation.
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Old May 19, 2026 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Car.guy
I have had the Range device plugged in for about 4 months and I think the car actually drives better without AFM activation.
How could it drive any better with or without AFM? It switches to V4 only under low load and switches back.
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Old May 19, 2026 | 05:48 PM
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Sounds like crap in V4 mode. And the time spent in V4 mode is torture for the tranny/torque converter and torque tube.
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Old May 19, 2026 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TxLefty
Sounds like crap in V4 mode. And the time spent in V4 mode is torture for the tranny/torque converter and torque tube.
IDK about sound since I have mine set on Stealth Mode always but perhaps the issue isn't spending time in V4 mode as much as switching over because GM couldn't and/or wouldn't design a proper system?
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How could it drive any better with or without AFM? It switches to V4 only under low load and switches back.
With 4 cylinder disabled, it seems to drive better when locked into 8 cylinder (to me).
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Originally Posted by Car.guy
With 4 cylinder disabled, it seems to drive better when locked into 8 cylinder (to me).
IIRC, I had to look to know before I shut it out by the ECM program. I wasn't ever sure if I could tell it without looking for it which meant a prejudice. I obviously couldn't do a blind test.

When I had it, I know for sure that when I hammered it, there was no issue. From what I see, it only engages when it is on light pedal or cruise and in both cases, I really don't care since it doesn't limit the power when I want it.

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Old May 19, 2026 | 07:45 PM
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With a manual transmission you definitely feel it go in and out of V4.
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Old May 20, 2026 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by aklim
IIRC, I had to look to know before I shut it out by the ECM program. I wasn't ever sure if I could tell it without looking for it which meant a prejudice. I obviously couldn't do a blind test.

When I had it, I know for sure that when I hammered it, there was no issue. From what I see, it only engages when it is on light pedal or cruise and in both cases, I really don't care since it doesn't limit the power when I want it.

If the engine fails because of switching in and out of afm you will probably care. 🫥
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Old May 20, 2026 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by F4Gary
With a manual transmission you definitely feel it go in and out of V4.

All the more reason to stay out of "ECO" mode with a manual-shift C7.

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If I had any interest of keeping it forever or past 2030, I'd definitely change the cam
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Old May 20, 2026 | 12:02 PM
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I was run the car in the Manual mode and paddle shifting because I had the dreaded shutter. Once I had the trip flush done it correct the shutter, so I just drove it in the Auto mode, but I was worried about the AFM and wiping out a lifter and cam, so I bought the Range device. My son has less miles on his GMC Denali and it got his lifters and cam. Luckily, he has a full engine warranty, so it cost him nothing and they gave him a brand-new Denali to use. So I recommend getting one.
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Originally Posted by JK 23112
All the more reason to stay out of "ECO" mode with a manual-shift C7.
Yep. We were on a trip and I thought I'd try ECO mode. After 4 or 5 cluncks in and out of V4 I put it back in Tour and left it there.
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Old May 20, 2026 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BWF07
I was run the car in the Manual mode and paddle shifting because I had the dreaded shutter. Once I had the trip flush done it correct the shutter, so I just drove it in the Auto mode, but I was worried about the AFM and wiping out a lifter and cam, so I bought the Range device. My son has less miles on his GMC Denali and it got his lifters and cam. Luckily, he has a full engine warranty, so it cost him nothing and they gave him a brand-new Denali to use. So I recommend getting one.
Any of the devices, Range, programming, etc, is only a theory, from what I see. I honestly have not seen any kind testing done that shows a significant reduction of the chance of failure. I still think the only way to fix it will be to change the lifters.
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Old May 20, 2026 | 03:25 PM
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I have had a Range device on my 2017 Stingray for years. It works and the engine always stays in the V8 mode.
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