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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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If you do plan to keep her, is it even worth letting the dealer change the oil with the average, stock filter and god knows what kind of oil they'd put in her?
Not to sound elitist at all (just relying on facts), but there's no way I'd ever use/take any of the dealer oil changes.

The PF64 is a $6 paper filter, and the oil is a very-low-synthetic-content-blend worth all of $25-30 for the entire change.

If you're keeping long-term (past 75,000mi), I would encourage self oil changes with better oil (does not have to be M1, but any quality dexos1 synthetic passing the highest tests) and a better filter (M1-113, Napa Platinum, or similar).
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
That's correct. My dealer won't change the oil until the oil monitor readout is at 5-10%. I might have to do two changes before then. It's a 2year/24k deal so I'll be lucky to get two changes out of them.
So as it stands, the Z51 can use a PF64 or a Mobil-1 113 but not a UPF48R, correct?
The PF48 and the UPF48R were interchangeable(and still are) on the LS3 and the LS7 applications. The Mobil1 M1-113 is also interchangeable for both the LS3 and LS7 applications. The bypass valve in the PF48(as was delivered on over 20,000 Z06's from 2006 through early 2009) functioned the same as the bypass valve in the UPF48R used in the later LS7's and the LS3's used on the dry sump Grand Sports.

There is no reason why they(PF64, PF48, UPF48 and M1-113) are not interchangeable on the LT1.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Theta
Not to sound elitist at all (just relying on facts), but there's no way I'd ever use/take any of the dealer oil changes.

The PF64 is a $6 paper filter, and the oil is a very-low-synthetic-content-blend worth all of $25-30 for the entire change.

If you're keeping long-term (past 75,000mi), I would encourage self oil changes with better oil (does not have to be M1, but any quality dexos1 synthetic passing the highest tests) and a better filter (M1-113, Napa Platinum, or similar).
So the dealer doesn't use Mobil 1 just like the factory fill? I'm not surprised.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
So the dealer doesn't use Mobil 1 just like the factory fill? I'm not surprised.
I believe you will find that the factory fill is a synthetic blend dexos oil, not Mobil1.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I believe you will find that the factory fill is a synthetic blend dexos oil, not Mobil1.
Correct, the factory fill is the same dexos1 blend as the dealer will use in subsequent changes.
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
So the dealer doesn't use Mobil 1 just like the factory fill? I'm not surprised.
C5/6/7 Corvettes in for oil change at my dealer get Mobil 1 5W30. Unless the customer wants something different.
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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That's quite a generous service, as they're not being reimbursed for that (unless the dealership has a good deal on the fluid, itself). They're only reimbursed for the factory part number stock cost.
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Theta
That's quite a generous service, as they're not being reimbursed for that (unless the dealership has a good deal on the fluid, itself). They're only reimbursed for the factory part number stock cost.
I very much doubt the dealer is providing the customer something for which the dealer is not being paid.

When I queried the service manager concerning what oil was used it didn't occur to me ask about reimbursement...but I will.
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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It should show that they're being paid for qty x part number. On the base, they're getting credit for 8 x SKU for dexos1 blend, on the Z51, 11 x SKU for dexos1 blend. Plus the 1 x SKU on the PF64.

I can dig around harder, but that's what I know from experience.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Theta
I used the Mobil 1 Model M1113 Extended Performance Oil Filter.

It exceeds GM's requirements, and is an overall better filter than the ACDelco (non-R) equivalent.

About $13 a pop:

Amazon.com: Mobil 1 M1-113 Extended Performance Oil Filter: Automotive

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http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...ntifier=904898
I'm checking the two sites for my 2015 Z51 and both sites say that filter does not fit my car.
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pocket Aces
I'm checking the two sites for my 2015 Z51 and both sites say that filter does not fit my car.
Go to Mobil1 site and you will find they spec the M1-113 oil filter for the LT1 just as they spec the M1-113 oil filter for my 2009 LS7.
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Originally Posted by Pocket Aces
I'm checking the two sites for my 2015 Z51 and both sites say that filter does not fit my car.

I've used the M1-113 for my C6 and I will use it for my C7.

You're two sites are incorrect.


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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
The first 20,000, or so, C6 Z06's, came from the factory with PF48 filters(as did my 2009 Z06). Never heard of a single one of those Z06's that had catastrophic engine failure due to using the run of the mill AC Delco filter, nor did GM ever send out a memo stating that Z06 owners should not use the PF48 filter or a replacement page for my owner's manual. The Z06 has a 100psi oil pressure gauge where as the LS2's and LS3's have a 80psi gauge. From what I've seen, the Z06 does run at a higher operating oil pressure vs the LS2/3.

Then, in the summer of 2008, when GM released the ZR1, they started installing the UPF48R filter(and the LS9 still had the same 100psi gauge as the Z06) on the ZR1. In the interest of standardization at Wixom, they started using the UPF48R on all their engines(LS7, LS9 and dry sump LS3's).

That said, I believe the Mobil1 M1-113 and the K&N HP-1017 filters are the best available and that is what I use. From what I've read, the UPF48R is the same oil filter as the Mobil1 M1-113 but the Mobil1 filter can be purchased at nearly any auto parts store whereas the ACDelco filter can be difficult to find. I see no sense in paying shipping on a UP48R filter when I can pickup a Mobi1 filter when I buy my oil.
MY 2014 Z51 2008 C6Z06 and 2009 Zr1 all take a 57060 in a Wix all the same!
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Just in case anyone stumbles upon this old stuff, as I did by accident, and believes it ALL... just be aware of the 2017 GM update below. It contradicts a number of posts in this thread:

https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...tems-1363.html
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