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my personal experiece with this layout was oil EVERYWHERE in the air box, dripping down the undersides of the car, on the air filter, in the intercooler in the blow off valve, and it stunk. previous owner had a second air filter just to deal with this issue.
you are very lucky, i would encourage anyone to take a look for themselves vs. assuming everything is a-ok.
No assumptions here, I check it frequently and had the blower intake tube off last week, no oil. What you describe is the lifter valley or valve covers getting pressurized and blowing oil out...
Curious why you guys don't route the PCV lines to the air filter box per the ECS instructions. I've got 3500 miles on mine now and it doesn't get any oil in there or have any smells. I think it's good to have a little suction on the crankcase too to keep water vapor out.
Mine was installed by Vengeance. I'll have to ask why the routing differs from ECS. Makes sense to add some vacuum.
You might want to contact RX and ask for the owner. He has done significant research for years on this issue. As an engineer you will be impressed with his knowledge. It might save you from having to re-invent this particular "wheel".
Jim (born and raised in St. Louis)
I might add, that is exactly what I did. I told him I have a non-Z51 supercharged, and he told me exactly how to install it.
A system that works and doesn't release to atmoshere.
with all due respect.. engine blowby is at pressures far greater than atmospheric. if it wants out, its coming out! best way is to control it so it doesn't damage the engine or carry oil with it, while recirculating as much as possible
I just sold my RX can. It was by far the lowest quality, most poorly made catchcan I've seen. Fittings epoxied on instead of welded, cheap parts, leaking check valves, etc.
FWIW, I have extensive experience with many of the cans on the market, by far the best quality can I have used was the Mightymouse with the Elite can second. Lashway and LMR and way are both great setups, especially for boosted applications too. I will be using a Mightymouse can in the future as I personally feel it is high quality and does exactly what I need it to do. As far as venting to open , they do have a can designed to keep all gasses internal to the system, only if a overpressure situation arises will it bleed off unwanted gasses, this will protect your motor against all oil ingestion and seal failure. No press fit connections and not cheaply built.
I just sold my RX can. It was by far the lowest quality, most poorly made catchcan I've seen. Fittings epoxied on instead of welded, cheap parts, leaking check valves, etc.
Sorry to hear about the product you received. I was referring in my posts to the impressive knowledge of the original owner of the company as reinforced by posts number 8 and 9 in this thread.
(my product from this company is well made and pulls an impressive amount of oil from my NA LS2)
If you had that problem then either someone didn't do something right or your tune is probably off which is most likely the case. Its funny but no matter what the subject history repeats its self. I am not going to say its 100% but seems very close in these extreme situations. The same thing that was causing engines to push the timing case seals out is pretty much what is causing most of these oiling issues. Its called detonation,ping.knock What ever name you want to put on it. When it occurs it plays havoc with the piston rings ability to seal. The air flow past the rings increases beyond imagination and in its effort to escape the crankcase ends up taking allot of oil with it. How many times does this need to be repeated. It has been said many times. There should be a sticky on this.
The blocks as has been said my not be spot on but there is still no reason that these things should have blowby like they have 500K on them. Gm isnt that stupid to put a product out there like that. And as far as cylinders bore locations not being exactly as called out so what. We used to offset bores to increase the wall thickness of the major thrust sides all the time and this was done really high hp engines.
Gm cant build 100's of thousands of engines a year for the masses and hold the tight tolerances that a person building a one off will.
The engines are lasting longer while making more power and getting better mileage now then they have in even the "good ole days".
Yes Gm screwed the pouch on the oil fill for the Z51 cars but when it comes to some of these problems that have oil spewing from everywhere dont look at the GM v8 but what was done to it to suddenly cause the change. The piston rings ability to seal are the only thing that can really effect blow by. If the rings sealed fine before a supercharger or even some simple NA mods then they should hold up to the ability of what the stock available kits put out without issue.
bob
Originally Posted by MIGHTYM0USE
my personal experiece with this layout was oil EVERYWHERE in the air box, dripping down the undersides of the car, on the air filter, in the intercooler in the blow off valve, and it stunk. previous owner had a second air filter just to deal with this issue.
you are very lucky, i would encourage anyone to take a look for themselves vs. assuming everything is a-ok.
so you are saying it is beyond gm's capability to put out an engine with measurably more blow-by in years past
but it is completely reasonable for them to accidentally make the dip stick a half inch too long? i think if they can get a dipstick wrong then the door is wide open for things actually complicated.
i continue to go with a 'believe what i see in real life' approach. so i don't have to rely on what is supposed to be true, i just find it myself.
so you are saying it is beyond gm's capability to put out an engine with measurably more blow-by in years past
but it is completely reasonable for them to accidentally make the dip stick a half inch too long? i think if they can get a dipstick wrong then the door is wide open for things actually complicated.
i continue to go with a 'believe what i see in real life' approach. so i don't have to rely on what is supposed to be true, i just find it myself.
Gm like every other car or manufacturer is not perfect. Never will be.
I rarely post because I do not want to get into a pissing match due to things sometimes looking like a personal attack. This was not and shouldnt be taken that way.
If you think about what you just posted about "continue to go with believe what I see" then you have the answer to your own issue staring at you. Look at the oil going all over and think about what I posted. When did it start?
I am trying to help you and some others here. Not trying to be the enemy. I am 59 not some young kid and have been involved in some form of racing all my life since a teen so you can think about what I posted and maybe help your situation (if its not to late) or ignore it. I have nothing to gain but have taken the time to post and respond with the intention of helping.