Help on oil
Until you understand what Dexos is, and isn't, you might want to refrain from posting about it.
Until you understand what Dexos is, and isn't, you might want to refrain from posting about it.
He also knows how to spell the name of the oil you're arguing about. You do not unfortunately, and it really undermines any point you're trying (unsuccessfully) to make.
Your assertion that somehow Mobil 1 5W-30 (note that the proper spelling of this product is not spelled like the city in Alabama, does not mean able to move or be moved freely or easily, or refer to a cellular phone or handheld computer) is required to prevent LT-1/LT-4 motor issues is FALSE. This is NOT the reason for the bulletin, and per even the 2016 owners manual, any dexos1 certified 5W-30 oil meets the warranty requirements for street use. Track use is not the topic here.
The entire Mobil 1 5W-30 service bulletin debate/debacle has to do two factors: the 24 months of 4 or 5 free oil changes we "paid for" under the Chevrolet Complete Care program (the actual reason), and (really because) the Corvette brand manager/marketing machine recognizes Corvette owners' reverence of the Mobil 1 brand image. Sure it's good oil, but it's not unicorn blood.
The fact that Mobil 1 5W-30 is the factory fill in all C7 Corvettes (yes, this is confirmed) has nothing to do with it being the special sauce preventing a motor grenade. It's marketing, it projects a premium image, and for the 0.1% of use cases, it may have some quantitative benefits over the GM dexos1 certified semi-syn 5W-30 (or any dexos1 oil for that matter).
The 500 mile oil change update for dry sump engines had to do with the unique silicone sealants in that system breaking down the anti-foaming agents in the oil (yes...even the miracle factory fill Mobil 1 gets compromised). The wet sump is not covered by this bulletin and will go by the OLM.
The LT-1/LT-4 motor failures that have occurred are most likely to have been WITH Mobil 1 5W-30 in the pan (because it's the factory fill and -most- GM dealers use it for Corvettes). Certainly the low mile failures have been with Mobil 1. I think it's foolish to believe that lubrication was a factor in any of these, because if it were, Mobil 1 5W-30 would be more likely at fault.
And after all that...I don't use Mobil 1. I use Penzoil Platinum Ultra 5W-30 and a Mobil 1 oil filter. But I laugh at myself EVERY time I go to Wally World and spend $70 (vs. free) when I know logically and quantitatively that the "lowly" GM dexos1 would be 110% good enough for what I do with my car. But it makes me feel better.
He also knows how to spell the name of the oil you're arguing about. You do not unfortunately, and it really undermines any point you're trying (unsuccessfully) to make.
Your assertion that somehow Mobil 1 5W-30 (note that the proper spelling of this product is not spelled like the city in Alabama, does not mean able to move or be moved freely or easily, or refer to a cellular phone or handheld computer) is required to prevent LT-1/LT-4 motor issues is FALSE. This is NOT the reason for the bulletin, and per even the 2016 owners manual, any dexos1 certified 5W-30 oil meets the warranty requirements for street use. Track use is not the topic here.
The entire Mobil 1 5W-30 service bulletin debate/debacle has to do two factors: the 24 months of 4 or 5 free oil changes we "paid for" under the Chevrolet Complete Care program (the actual reason), and (really because) the Corvette brand manager/marketing machine recognizes Corvette owners' reverence of the Mobil 1 brand image. Sure it's good oil, but it's not unicorn blood.
The fact that Mobil 1 5W-30 is the factory fill in all C7 Corvettes (yes, this is confirmed) has nothing to do with it being the special sauce preventing a motor grenade. It's marketing, it projects a premium image, and for the 0.1% of use cases, it may have some quantitative benefits over the GM dexos1 certified semi-syn 5W-30 (or any dexos1 oil for that matter).
The 500 mile oil change update for dry sump engines had to do with the unique silicone sealants in that system breaking down the anti-foaming agents in the oil (yes...even the miracle factory fill Mobil 1 gets compromised). The wet sump is not covered by this bulletin and will go by the OLM.
The LT-1/LT-4 motor failures that have occurred are most likely to have been WITH Mobil 1 5W-30 in the pan (because it's the factory fill and -most- GM dealers use it for Corvettes). Certainly the low mile failures have been with Mobil 1. I think it's foolish to believe that lubrication was a factor in any of these, because if it were, Mobil 1 5W-30 would be more likely at fault.
And after all that...I don't use Mobil 1. I use Penzoil Platinum Ultra 5W-30 and a Mobil 1 oil filter. But I laugh at myself EVERY time I go to Wally World and spend $70 (vs. free) when I know logically and quantitatively that the "lowly" GM dexos1 would be 110% good enough for what I do with my car. But it makes me feel better.

The 2014-2015 Chevrolet Complete Care Program for Corvettes was designed to take into account the preferred Mobil 1 oil choice of many Corvette owners.
Now try to find and actually read the warranty booklet that came with your car. Show me where it says Mobil 1 is required.
Now find any evidence that an LT1 engine has failed because of the oil used. As XP800 pointed out, but you apparently didn't understand, many of these failures have happened on the factory fill, which is Mobil 1.
Instead of talking out of your ***, while providing zero evidence to support the idea that running a GM approved Dexos oil causes engines to grenade, find some actual evidence.
The 2014-2015 Chevrolet Complete Care Program for Corvettes was designed to take into account the preferred Mobil 1 oil choice of many Corvette owners.
Now try to find and actually read the warranty booklet that came with your car. Show me where it says Mobil 1 is required.
Now find any evidence that an LT1 engine has failed because of the oil used. As XP800 pointed out, but you apparently didn't understand, many of these failures have happened on the factory fill, which is Mobil 1.
Instead of talking out of your ***, while providing zero evidence to support the idea that running a GM approved Dexos oil causes engines to grenade, find some actual evidence.
Last edited by Dieseler911; Sep 20, 2015 at 06:38 PM.
Until you spend some time on the forum benefiting from the knowledge of people who have been involved in this world for a lot longer than you, I don't think anyone is going to pay the slightest attention to what you think.
I just love people who come in here and immediately think they know more than everyone else. Grow up, listen and learn, and then maybe we'll care what you think. For now, you're on my ignore list.
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Good enough reason for me to keep using it. No need to call names. If you can prove that Corvettes aren't being filled with Mobil 1, please provide proof. Until then, your rantings are to be taken as the result of too much beer and ignorance.
Good enough reason for me to keep using it. No need to call names. If you can prove that Corvettes aren't being filled with Mobil 1, please provide proof. Until then, your rantings are to be taken as the result of too much beer and ignorance.
Last edited by Dieseler911; Sep 21, 2015 at 01:25 AM.











