Love the MGW. Dead quiet! Easy to shift to all gears.
Much better than stock.

 

Aside from the obvious shape difference, is there any mechanical difference between the flat shifter and regular short throw shifter? Just wondering why the price difference. Do I also have it straight that the OE **** will fit the short shifter but not the flat shifter? Anyone have a pic of the regular shifter installed?

Thanks,
Mike

 

+1 on MGW, not only is it a quality piece, But the folks there are very helpful! Awesome customer service!!

 

 

Im also wondering if the stock **** will work with the mgw shifter.

 

Will an aftermarket shifter eliminate or reduce the annoying 7th gear gate? I know some form of gate is necessary to prevent inadvertently going in the wrong gear but the stock 7th gear is really difficult to get into.

 

Yes, the stock **** will fit on the regular short throw shifter with the
standard shaft receiver for the ****. I have their accessory **** shaft bolt that has threads for the T-handle I have.

 

Yep the MGW gets all gears nicely.

 

Just ordered my MGW short shifter, based on this thread. Thanks guys!

 

I started this particular thread and after reading all the positive responses on the MGW, I ordered one yesterday. Can't wait.

 

It's arriving today, and I plan to do the install right away, as it seems pretty easy. I'll give an update when it's in.

 

After driving it around the weekend, I gotta say, I love clicking through gears.

The throw is nice and short, and gear changes are solid and confident.

 

How is downshifting? Heel to toe with these type shifters. Factory fairly easy to do. I have another companies, and it seems to be more for dragracing or daily driving.

 

Well, I actually haven't done any heel-toe shifting in it since rev match is so good at it, but I'll give it a try, though.

I would expect it to be equally as easy unless you double clutch. I say this because it may be easy to go 4-3 instead of 4-n-3, which is required for double clutching. That being said, I feel the synchros are fast enough to not really require double clutching.

 

If you do not double clutch, you are not really doing heel/toe downshifting.
The idea is to engage the clutch to spin the engine and input of the transmission up to match the rest of the drive train at wheel speed. You cannot do that if the clutch is in.

Seems to me you should be releasing the clutch in neutral even though you are letting rev matching blip the throttle for you.. Rev matching still only does half of the job for you..

 

^ Eh, I disagree. In my estimation, heel-toe specifically refers to foot position - as distinct from double clutching. If you're operating both pedals with one foot, I'd say you're heel-toe-ing. Rev matching or heel-toe-ing without popping the clutch in neutral can still spin up the engine to the correct downshift speed while the synchros do a fine job of spinning up the transmission's input shaft (the purpose of double-clutching). I bet the syncros will spin up the input shaft quicker than the driver can pop the clutch while inbetween gears.

 

How is the gear shift effort on the MGW? My main concerns are trouble getting in gears and too much effort.

It also seems like with some of these mods...people sing their praises but when you push them on 'are there issues' they start to admit some faults that don't get mentioned. Anything like that with the MGWs? Seems hard to go back to stock so I'm concerned about putting one in.

 

Technically, the amount of effort required is the same (energy in, energy out, and all that).

However, because the travel is lessened, it actually feels like less effort to shift - I can move my wrist only, I don't need to move my arm.

Gears click into place satisfyingly, and gear changes are confident and easy. Shifting from 2-3 or 4-5 feels more natural as well.



I know exactly what you're talking about. When a person is proud or excited about something, they find ways to lessen the blow of faults, find ways to justify why something that was originally a downside is actually a good thing. (For example, "When I buy a Corvette it has to be fully loaded!" turns to "Well, I don't track it, so I don't need Z51" etc.)

For me, though, I don't have much room to do that. It helps when, between my father and I, we have over 3500 horsepower worth of vehicles, so we can compare, highlight differences, etc. It keeps us honest.

As for the shifter? Honestly, I have yet to find a fault with it. Installation is easy (except for a slight pain removing the shift boot in order to remove the stock shifter, not a fault with the MGW).

I was a little worried about heat, seeing how the stock shift box blocked the metal components from any heat coming up from the exhaust around the torque tube. However, the amount of heat shielding used by the MGW kit completely mitigates this.

If you didn't like it, though, and decided to go back to stock, you'd need to buy a new rubber shift boot isolator, as the MGW kit requires modifications to it. Otherwise road noise leaks in from around the torque tube.

 

Had the MGW for about 2 years now and not a single problem.
Also, it will be EASY to return to stock if you want to...just keep the stock parts.

 

Both styles have the same base. I had the regular MGW that utilized the stock shift ****. Another member had the flat stick and wanted the regular. So we did a swap and all we had to trade was the uppers and left the base bolted in the car. They really perform the same, just matters what look you want: