Data logging App
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Melting Slicks
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From: Long Island New York
I'm just looking to see my AFR and if I'm getting any KCs. I have a 93 octane tune from Edelbrock with their stage 2 E Force supercharger. It runs great , im looking to add a Tony Mamo Throttle body, i just want to make sure im not to lean.
Last edited by BlueDevilZ51; Oct 4, 2017 at 11:24 AM.
Racer
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From: Addison TX
In order to accurately log AFR you will need Wide Band O2 sensors. The stock narrow band O2's only work at partial throttle not Wide Open Throttle (WOT). In WOT the ECU commands fuel based on RPM, IAT, MAP all calculated via the tables programed in the ECU.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Long Island New York
I didnt know the car only had a narrow band o2, was hoping it had a wide band. You seen like you are knowledgeable with the C7 ECU. I was wordering if the ECU would self learn or adjust if its a little lean after I install a ported throttle body?
If so would i be better off disconnecting the battery terminal for a few mins or just take it for a drive for a few miles and WOT pulls?
The car is stock besides the Edelbrock Supercharger and tune. Thanks
If so would i be better off disconnecting the battery terminal for a few mins or just take it for a drive for a few miles and WOT pulls?
The car is stock besides the Edelbrock Supercharger and tune. Thanks
Last edited by BlueDevilZ51; Oct 4, 2017 at 02:26 PM.
Racer
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From: Addison TX
None of the manufactures, foreign or domestic, use wide band O2's.
To answer your question; At idle and cruise (partial throttle) the stock ECU will use the O2's to adjust short term and long term fuel trims in order to reach target AFR. This is called closed loop.
Since your car is not stock and has a custom tune then I would ask your tuner how the tune is setup. Some will side step the self learning/adjusting, not a bad thing necessarily, by locking in values.
To answer your question; At idle and cruise (partial throttle) the stock ECU will use the O2's to adjust short term and long term fuel trims in order to reach target AFR. This is called closed loop.
Since your car is not stock and has a custom tune then I would ask your tuner how the tune is setup. Some will side step the self learning/adjusting, not a bad thing necessarily, by locking in values.
Last edited by IM4A2Z; Oct 4, 2017 at 04:46 PM.
Racer
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From: Addison TX
Torque Pro is good for keeping an eye on things in general but, if you want to get serious then check out Innovate Motorsports if you want to follow through with data logging and wide band O2 sensors. I've had good experience over the years using their products on my cars and motorcycles.
Last edited by IM4A2Z; Oct 4, 2017 at 08:57 PM.
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Supporting Vendor
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From: Central Florida
None of the manufactures, foreign or domestic, use wide band O2's.
To answer your question; At idle and cruise (partial throttle) the stock ECU will use the O2's to adjust short term and long term fuel trims in order to reach target AFR. This is called closed loop.
Since your car is not stock and has a custom tune then I would ask your tuner how the tune is setup. Some will side step the self learning/adjusting, not a bad thing necessarily, by locking in values.
To answer your question; At idle and cruise (partial throttle) the stock ECU will use the O2's to adjust short term and long term fuel trims in order to reach target AFR. This is called closed loop.
Since your car is not stock and has a custom tune then I would ask your tuner how the tune is setup. Some will side step the self learning/adjusting, not a bad thing necessarily, by locking in values.
Ford has used Widebands in the Mustang since 2011, and most of the Ecoboosts use them as well.
Dodge uses Widebands in the Hellcat/Demon as well.
Several import models use them as well, especially Euro stuff.
Instructor
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From: Daytona Beach, Florida
I have been using the BlueDriver Bluetooth OBDII Scan Tool for a couple weeks now and it works great with the iPhone or iPad Apps You can monitor several parameters at once and create log files. The software recommends no more than five parameters at a time but there is nothing stopping you from adding more. It takes a snapshot every half second or so with 4 or 5 parameters selected.
You can use your ipad/phone as a display for gauges, time charts, or just a digital readout, while driving.
It allows you to clear any trouble codes or perform a smog check as well.
You can use your ipad/phone as a display for gauges, time charts, or just a digital readout, while driving.
It allows you to clear any trouble codes or perform a smog check as well.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: San Jose Ca
I have been using the BlueDriver Bluetooth OBDII Scan Tool for a couple weeks now and it works great with the iPhone or iPad Apps You can monitor several parameters at once and create log files. The software recommends no more than five parameters at a time but there is nothing stopping you from adding more. It takes a snapshot every half second or so with 4 or 5 parameters selected.
You can use your ipad/phone as a display for gauges, time charts, or just a digital readout, while driving.
It allows you to clear any trouble codes or perform a smog check as well.
You can use your ipad/phone as a display for gauges, time charts, or just a digital readout, while driving.
It allows you to clear any trouble codes or perform a smog check as well.
Burning Brakes
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Been playing with the bluedriver and their software for awhile, works great.
I thought I'd try Torque Pro because of the display options and I cannot get it to work with my bluedriver scan tool. Anyone have that problem?
Figured it out: Bluedriver only works with their app. I'll be returning it and buying a new one...
DO NOT BUY BLUEDRIVER IF YOU WANT TO USE ANY OTHER APP...
https://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=9534.0
I thought I'd try Torque Pro because of the display options and I cannot get it to work with my bluedriver scan tool. Anyone have that problem?
Figured it out: Bluedriver only works with their app. I'll be returning it and buying a new one...
DO NOT BUY BLUEDRIVER IF YOU WANT TO USE ANY OTHER APP...
https://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=9534.0
Last edited by snampro; Feb 22, 2019 at 09:15 AM.