C7 Z06 Discussion General Z06 Corvette Discussion, LT4 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: GEM Motorsports

Automatic transmission

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-05-2013, 06:12 PM
  #1  
LarryMJones
Race Director

Thread Starter
 
LarryMJones's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2007
Location: Maumelle Arkansas
Posts: 18,959
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16-'17

Default Automatic transmission

Call me when they decide to enter the modern world of performance cars with an automatic transmission option.
LJ
Old 12-05-2013, 06:14 PM
  #2  
S3XPanther
Advanced
 
S3XPanther's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2013
Location: Astoria NY
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LarryMJones
Call me when they decide to enter the modern world of performance cars with an automatic transmission option.
LJ

Sounds a little trollish. The C7 is plenty modern, stick or auto.
Old 12-05-2013, 06:16 PM
  #3  
Beaz
Melting Slicks
 
Beaz's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 3,080
Received 15 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by LarryMJones
Call me when they decide to enter the modern world of performance cars with an automatic transmission option.
LJ
OK, talk to you in January when they announce that a DCT will be an option on the new ZO6.
Old 12-05-2013, 07:04 PM
  #4  
sam90lx
Le Mans Master
 
sam90lx's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Ventura CA
Posts: 7,775
Received 172 Likes on 138 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Beaz
OK, talk to you in January when they announce that a DCT will be an option on the new ZO6.
I wont hold my breath on this one.
Old 12-05-2013, 08:06 PM
  #5  
Stars_Fan
Safety Car
 
Stars_Fan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2008
Location: Waxahachie, TX
Posts: 4,363
Received 36 Likes on 22 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by LarryMJones
Call me when they decide to enter the modern world of performance cars with an automatic transmission option.
LJ
Old 12-05-2013, 08:35 PM
  #6  
Caddylac10
Racer
 
Caddylac10's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2012
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by S3XPanther
Sounds a little trollish. The C7 is plenty modern, stick or auto.
I don't think he's trolling. I'm sure he talking about the Z because the base car already has an auto.

I would have to agree with him though. The Z needs a real auto. Not necessarily a DCT, but an 8 speed at the least.

GM should continue to offer a manual too, but the Z does need to get on board.
Old 12-05-2013, 08:49 PM
  #7  
Paulchristian
Melting Slicks
 
Paulchristian's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,170
Received 174 Likes on 121 Posts
Default

Save the Stick...
Old 12-05-2013, 08:57 PM
  #8  
JustinStrife
Team Owner
 
JustinStrife's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 27,567
Received 96 Likes on 66 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by LarryMJones
Call me when they decide to enter the modern world of performance cars with an automatic transmission option.
LJ
Call us when your Solstice sees more than a coat of wax and a local car show. :
Old 12-05-2013, 09:01 PM
  #9  
rcallen484
Race Director
 
rcallen484's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,355
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Caddylac10
I don't think he's trolling. I'm sure he talking about the Z because the base car already has an auto.

I would have to agree with him though. The Z needs a real auto. Not necessarily a DCT, but an 8 speed at the least.

GM should continue to offer a manual too, but the Z does need to get on board.
A "real" automatic has to be at least an 8 speed? In a vehicle with a relatively flat torque curve at over 500 ft lbs?
Old 12-05-2013, 09:36 PM
  #10  
Caddylac10
Racer
 
Caddylac10's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2012
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rcallen484
A "real" automatic has to be at least an 8 speed? In a vehicle with a relatively flat torque curve at over 500 ft lbs?
I'm not saying a 6 speed isn't legitimate. I'm just saying that there's got to be a way for a one of the largest auto makes in the world to engineer an 8 speed to handle the torque. Of course it will have to be modified and strengthened but why can't that be accomplished? It's going to a 2015 model we're taking about; how much longer is there going to be an excuse why it can't happen?

The Hydramatic in the ZL1 and V can already handle 550 lb-ft. Certainly 2015 technology can do more.
Old 12-05-2013, 09:40 PM
  #11  
rcallen484
Race Director
 
rcallen484's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,355
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Caddylac10
I'm not saying a 6 speed isn't legitimate. I'm just saying that there's got to be a way for a one of the largest auto makes in the world to engineer an 8 speed to handle the torque. Of course it will have to be modified and strengthened but why can't that be accomplished? It's going to a 2015 model we're taking about; how much longer is there going to be an excuse why it can't happen?

The Hydramatic in the ZL1 and V can already handle 550 lb-ft. Certainly 2015 technology can do more.
No, that is not what I meant at all. What I meant was that 8 speeds is NOT necessary when you have that powerful of an engine. Less gears, less weight and complexity. That is not an excuse, those are valid reasons to not have unnecessary gears.

Last edited by rcallen484; 12-05-2013 at 09:51 PM.
Old 12-05-2013, 10:33 PM
  #12  
musclecar6
Le Mans Master

 
musclecar6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Location: Ft Mill, SC
Posts: 9,217
Received 148 Likes on 104 Posts

Default

I think what vette junkies are looking for, is an auto tranny, DCT etc, that will instantly shift up or down when selected with seamless rev matching like the BMW DCT/ Porsche PDK. They really don't give a hoot whether it's a 6 spd, 7spd, 8 spd, etc, they just want to play formula one on the street ( obviously not going at those speeds, but having fun at moderate speeds and occasionally running it thru the gears for a quick blast out in the middle of nowhere where it's safe to do it). I fall into that camp as although I have both a 6 spd manual GS and a CTS-V A6, I am ready to be done with shifting. It's been fun all these years, but enough already. Time to modernize and not endure the chore of shifting when I'm thru playing.
Old 12-05-2013, 10:39 PM
  #13  
Skullbussa
Pro
 
Skullbussa's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2010
Posts: 690
Received 182 Likes on 76 Posts

Default

There will be no SLUSHBOX AUTOMATIC offered on the Z06.

It's going to have a Dual-Clutch transmission and nothing else. This is a track car, not a boulevard cruiser.
Old 12-05-2013, 11:04 PM
  #14  
S3XPanther
Advanced
 
S3XPanther's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2013
Location: Astoria NY
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Skullbussa
There will be no SLUSHBOX AUTOMATIC offered on the Z06.

It's going to have a Dual-Clutch transmission and nothing else. This is a track car, not a boulevard cruiser.
How do you know this?
Old 12-05-2013, 11:52 PM
  #15  
ChucksZ06
Drifting
 
ChucksZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,356
Received 55 Likes on 23 Posts

Default

Multispeed trans are for euro weenie cars with weak torque outputs and narrow power bands. If you want to shift all the time buy a car that needs such a transmission. The vette as it is configured will not benefit.
Old 12-06-2013, 12:25 AM
  #16  
Notch
Safety Car
 
Notch's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2002
Location: GA (some days)
Posts: 3,799
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by musclecar6
... they just want to play formula one on the street ( obviously not going at those speeds, but having fun at moderate speeds and occasionally running it thru the gears for a quick blast out in the middle of nowhere where it's safe to do it).
I think many people will find that this gets old very quickly. In no time at all they will just leave it in "drive" and be done with it.
Old 12-06-2013, 12:29 AM
  #17  
Achmed
Drifting
 
Achmed's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,684
Received 82 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Skullbussa
There will be no SLUSHBOX AUTOMATIC offered on the Z06.

It's going to have a Dual-Clutch transmission and nothing else. This is a track car, not a boulevard cruiser.
Honest question what is a "slushbox"? Where does the word come from, I've seen it used here a fair bit but never read an explanation.

On the Stingray, the auto shaves off a solid 0.4 seconds off of the quarter mile, so if it can do the same or similar to a Z06 I'm all in, regardless of whether its a "slush" anything

Get notified of new replies

To Automatic transmission

Old 12-06-2013, 12:47 AM
  #18  
pietro c7
Melting Slicks
 
pietro c7's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: montreal quebec
Posts: 2,235
Received 1,157 Likes on 650 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Notch
I think many people will find that this gets old very quickly. In no time at all they will just leave it in "drive" and be done with it.
100% true
Old 12-06-2013, 01:07 AM
  #19  
mark1107
Melting Slicks
 
mark1107's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2003
Location: California CA
Posts: 3,392
Received 39 Likes on 28 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14-'15

Default

Having daily drove my 07 Z06 for 50k miles in Los Angeles traffic for three years you can put a gun to my head but I won't drive another stick. Even after I bought a range rover as a daily driver and the Z as my weekend car, I'm so happy my 14 Stingray Z51 has an auto. If the Z only comes in manual forget about it! Plus I still have PTSD over the valves and warranty.
Old 12-06-2013, 03:40 AM
  #20  
Beaz
Melting Slicks
 
Beaz's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 3,080
Received 15 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by S3XPanther
How do you know this?
Just wait


Quick Reply: Automatic transmission



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:27 AM.