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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Achmed
Honest question what is a "slushbox"? Where does the word come from, I've seen it used here a fair bit but never read an explanation.

On the Stingray, the auto shaves off a solid 0.4 seconds off of the quarter mile, so if it can do the same or similar to a Z06 I'm all in, regardless of whether its a "slush" anything
Slushbox is a derogatory term for a conventional torque converter automatic transmission, as distinguished from dual clutch transmissions or sequential manual gearboxes. Example: "My union contract prohibits slushboxes. I require manuals."

Yes, we know A6s often outperform M7s and are necessary for those who have health problems that prevent them from working three pedals; some of us would just rather row our own for as long as we can.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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GM needs to offer the auto for the new Z06 to appeal to a broader market. To me it would be a good business decision. I think you would see record sales of the Z06! The new autos are legit. So I don't want to hear all of this real cars or men drive stick immature BS.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by KINGZ06
GM needs to offer the auto for the new Z06 to appeal to a broader market. To me it would be a good business decision. I think you would see record sales of the Z06! The new autos are legit. So I don't want to hear all of this real cars or men drive stick immature BS.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by musclecar6
I think what vette junkies are looking for, is an auto tranny, DCT etc, that will instantly shift up or down when selected with seamless rev matching like the BMW DCT/ Porsche PDK. They really don't give a hoot whether it's a 6 spd, 7spd, 8 spd, etc, they just want to play formula one on the street ( obviously not going at those speeds, but having fun at moderate speeds and occasionally running it thru the gears for a quick blast out in the middle of nowhere where it's safe to do it). I fall into that camp as although I have both a 6 spd manual GS and a CTS-V A6, I am ready to be done with shifting. It's been fun all these years, but enough already. Time to modernize and not endure the chore of shifting when I'm thru playing.
Well stated. Even with out the car being a dd as is my '12, I am worn out driving a manual. The thrill is gone.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
There will be no SLUSHBOX AUTOMATIC offered on the Z06.

It's going to have a Dual-Clutch transmission and nothing else. This is a track car, not a boulevard cruiser.
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How do you know this?
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyRoller
Slushbox is a derogatory term for a conventional torque converter automatic transmission, as distinguished from dual clutch transmissions or sequential manual gearboxes. Example: "My union contract prohibits slushboxes. I require manuals."

Yes, we know A6s often outperform M7s and are necessary for those who have health problems that prevent them from working three pedals; some of us would just rather row our own for as long as we can.
Thanks for the explanation.

At the end of the day, if an A6 gives better acceleration than an M7 for an Z06, I don't see why anyone would object to having it at least as an option.

All that matters to me is the final numbers, not how you get there.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinStrife
Call us when your Solstice sees more than a coat of wax and a local car show. :
You still driving that turd C5 with the gay stripes?
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Achmed
Thanks for the explanation.

At the end of the day, if an A6 gives better acceleration than an M7 for an Z06, I don't see why anyone would object to having it at least as an option.

All that matters to me is the final numbers, not how you get there.
If the Z06 had the option of both a manual and a DCT, I'd predict that the DCT would outsell the former by a significant amount. Not to mention the obvious advantage at both the drag strip and racetrack. Porsche learned this lesson after painfully enduring losses to the competition. High performance variants (GT3, Turbo/S, GT2 et al) of the new 991 generation don't even have a manual option. As consumers we can choose to embrace the relentless march of technology or stay in the dark ages; manufacturers, however, can't afford to be left behind. I guess we'll find out soon enough if GM did their homework on this front or not.
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Originally Posted by OBSSSD
You still driving that turd C5 with the gay stripes?
He's just jealous 'cause we're in TX near the Jerry Dome .......
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LarryMJones
Call me when they decide to enter the modern world of performance cars with an automatic transmission option.
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Do you even know the difference in those so called "automatic transmissions" in the modern world of performance cars versus the one in your vette?

People really need to educate themselves on the difference, and some enthusiasts would consider it blasphemy calling a sequential transmission an automatic.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OBSSSD
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by raj
If the Z06 had the option of both a manual and a DCT, I'd predict that the DCT would outsell the former by a significant amount. Not to mention the obvious advantage at both the drag strip and racetrack. Porsche learned this lesson after painfully enduring losses to the competition. High performance variants (GT3, Turbo/S, GT2 et al) of the new 991 generation don't even have a manual option. As consumers we can choose to embrace the relentless march of technology or stay in the dark ages; manufacturers, however, can't afford to be left behind. I guess we'll find out soon enough if GM did their homework on this front or not.
I don't understand the obsession with a DCT. If a regular A6 can propel the C7 Z06 to beat its competition I couldn't care less if it was a DCT or a "slushbox." Like I said, its the actual results that matter, to me at least, not so much how you get there.
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Originally Posted by OBSSSD
You still driving that turd C5 with the gay stripes?
The turd that would blow the doors off your c6 even if I pulled two spark plug wires? Yeah still driving it.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ChucksZ06
Multispeed trans are for euro weenie cars with weak torque outputs and narrow power bands. If you want to shift all the time buy a car that needs such a transmission. The vette as it is configured will not benefit.
Are you serious? The M5 with its DCT 7 speed transmission has "weak torque and narrow power band"? What about the Jag F Type with its ZF 8 speed Super Fast Auto. Neither of these "Euro weenie cars" are short on either hp or torque and the multi-speed transmissions they use make them faster and more economical. What's not to love?
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Originally Posted by KINGZ06
GM needs to offer the auto for the new Z06 to appeal to a broader market. To me it would be a good business decision. I think you would see record sales of the Z06! The new autos are legit. So I don't want to hear all of this real cars or men drive stick immature BS.
Agreed.
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ChucksZ06
Multispeed trans are for euro weenie cars with weak torque outputs and narrow power bands. If you want to shift all the time buy a car that needs such a transmission. The vette as it is configured will not benefit.
Clueless...again.
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Look at the 8L90 thread, if the Z06 does get an auto it looks like it will be an 8 speed slush box.
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Originally Posted by JustinStrife
The turd that would blow the doors off your c6 even if I pulled two spark plug wires? Yeah still driving it.
I've got a sub 10 second 02' Camaro SS but you won't see me posting pics of it on here talking about how great it is like you do with your dud. Nice try though
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Originally Posted by LT1V8
Look at the 8L90 thread, if the Z06 does get an auto it looks like it will be an 8 speed slush box.
That would be laughable if that were to happen.
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Originally Posted by LFZ
That would be laughable if that were to happen.
Laughable from the perspective of "an auto doesn't belong in a Z06" crowd or the perspective of "an auto in a Z06 kicking the crap out of manuals in anything" crowd?
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