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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ivanjo11
In their latest issue this is what they said and they were spot on:

Got my latest "Hot Rod" magazine today in the mail (0314 issue). Column on page 10 had the following tidbits:

"C7 Z06 chassis is 20% more rigid than the C6 Z06 with the targa top removed and 60% more rigid with the top in place."

"The Z06 will be the only car with more than 600 hp to offer an automatic transmission: the new eight-speed 8L90E."

"The steel torque tube of the Stingray will be replaced with a woven carbon-fiber torque tube in the Z06".

"New Z06 features wider bodywork to cover a 2.2 inch wider track in the front and 3 inch wider track in the rear, with wheel and tire sizes from the C6 ZR1."

"There will be three levels of Z06 available with varying degrees of aerodynamic downforce, the top being called Z07".

"Powered by a supercharged 6.2L direct-injection LT4 V8 that produces an estimated 625 hp and 635 lb-ft of torque using a compact 1.7L supercharger capable of 20,000 rpm and 9.5 psi of boost."
I see everything on that list in GM's press release EXCEPT mention of the carbon fiber torque tube is not in the GM press release. Just because hot rod magazine decided to add some info that is not publicly released by GM, doesn't make it any more true than what they also said about the Z06 earlier, that I quoted.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Dry Weight or Curb Weight or GVWR or Tare Weight or weight on the Moon? There are many ways to cook the weight number.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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C6z 6.2 lbs per hp

So up to 3844 lbs to have similar performance to a c6z... Consider anything less faster.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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I wish they would have made this car the zr1. Then made the z06 a striped out 3000lb track car.

GM is worrying about an auto (which is terrible that they're even offering it) shifting faster than the PDK box, but they should follow the lead of Porsche with the 911/911 Turbo and GT2/GT3.

But that is only my humble opinion. I guess if I was so smart I would be rich.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by brewersprts
I wish they would have made this car the zr1. Then made the z06 a striped out 3000lb track car.

GM is worrying about an auto (which is terrible that they're even offering it) shifting faster than the PDK box, but they should follow the lead of Porsche with the 911/911 Turbo and GT2/GT3.

But that is only my humble opinion. I guess if I was so smart I would be rich.
Really, how many people want to drive around in a stripped out track car every day? The Z06 is closer to a GT car in terms of comfort and drivability but will kill any Porsche on the track when you need it to. Seems like the best of both worlds.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by brewersprts
I wish they would have made this car the zr1. Then made the z06 a striped out 3000lb track car.

GM is worrying about an auto (which is terrible that they're even offering it) shifting faster than the PDK box, but they should follow the lead of Porsche with the 911/911 Turbo and GT2/GT3.

But that is only my humble opinion. I guess if I was so smart I would be rich.
They just brought out the z28 so they may yet bring out a stripped down z06.
And I wouldn't call it terrible they are offering an auto after all they are still offering a manual too. I would call it great business sense. Now I will buy a z06 wasn't planning to ,am sick of manuals. And many other people according to poll on here will also maybe now buy a z06. Good for business. And the full manuals guys should be happy too they are after all still making a full manual while most high end car companies aren't anymore.
Its no big deal if it weighs 3400 or 3500. It has over 600 hp and tq.
Give your head a shake. It will still be a rocket ship and out handle and out brake probably 95 or more % of the cars on the road.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 09:33 PM
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Joe, I am confused. I do not understand what you are saying in your posts. Could you please clarify? I hope you purchase a c7z so we can all find out what the actual wt is.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mhart27
I'm curious what drag cars run better with more weight in them?
Cars doing drag racing on regular street tires sometimes run better with more gas in the tank gives more traction. Cars on race tires usually no, then you want them light as possible usually.

Serious 300 pounds in a car with over 600 hp and 600 ft pounds of torque and one that only weighs in at 3400 or so is not a big deal.

The car will be damn fast. Remember race weight counts too. A 3100 pound car with two 250 pound guys is still going to weigh in at 3600 and if you just filled up your tank now you are at even more . And if you run the guy in car beside you that weighs 150 and he has 1/4 tank he has big advantage if the cars are other wise identical.

I see people at track take out seats ,spare tire, jack,etc. For every 100 pounds out you gain about a tenth. And it roughly takes 10 hp for every 100 pounds. So 300 pounds more needs 30 hp more to compensate. Not really that much.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I see everything on that list in GM's press release EXCEPT mention of the carbon fiber torque tube is not in the GM press release. Just because hot rod magazine decided to add some info that is not publicly released by GM, doesn't make it any more true than what they also said about the Z06 earlier, that I quoted.
FYI the carbon torque tube can be seen in the GM release photos...



Road & Track references it in this article as well -

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...?src=soc_fcbks

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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
FYI the carbon torque tube can be seen in the GM release photos...



Road & Track references it in this article as well -

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...?src=soc_fcbks
Car and Driver too.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...d-z-0-6-page-2

Hey joe remember giving jerrivette a hard time for posting incorrect info a few days ago? Ironic isn't it?
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Daekwan06
It is inaccurate. He actually weighed his Z51. So he knows exactly what it weighs.

Why do you think he told you check for threads on weight. Versus whats listed on a spec website.

I cant remember what his actual weight was.. but it wasnt the numbers you are quoting.
Snorman's numbers only full with gas look to 3408!
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLANB
Cars doing drag racing on regular street tires sometimes run better with more gas in the tank gives more traction. Cars on race tires usually no, then you want them light as possible usually.

Serious 300 pounds in a car with over 600 hp and 600 ft pounds of torque and one that only weighs in at 3400 or so is not a big deal.

The car will be damn fast. Remember race weight counts too. A 3100 pound car with two 250 pound guys is still going to weigh in at 3600 and if you just filled up your tank now you are at even more . And if you run the guy in car beside you that weighs 150 and he has 1/4 tank he has big advantage if the cars are other wise identical.

I see people at track take out seats ,spare tire, jack,etc. For every 100 pounds out you gain about a tenth. And it roughly takes 10 hp for every 100 pounds. So 300 pounds more needs 30 hp more to compensate. Not really that much.
Good answer.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:34 PM
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My wife has a whole year to loose some weight, lol.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Snorman's numbers only full with gas look to 3408!
Weight: 3400 lb (est.)

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...-corvette-z06/
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Car and Driver too.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...d-z-0-6-page-2

Hey joe remember giving jerrivette a hard time for posting incorrect info a few days ago? Ironic isn't it?
What incorrect information have I posted about a carbon fiber torque tube? Is asking for a link to where GM says the Z06 will have a carbon fiber torque spreading misinformation? I don't think so. Saying that the Z06 has a carbon fiber torque as others are doing without being able to verify it by an official press release or statement from GM is spreading misinformation.

I'm not saying the Z06 doesn't have a carbon fiber torque tube, but at the same time I'm not saying it does as others are without being able to provide a link other than some magazine article. I guess you have never seen a magazine sprint incorrect information. I have.

I'll accept that the Z06 has a carbon fiber torque tube when GM says it does, and not before. That does not mean I'm spreading incorrect information? Just the opposite.
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You're dense. I posted an official GM picture of it.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
You're dense. I posted an official GM picture of it.
If it's an official GM photo then there must be some sort of information that came with it, that you can link us to. Or did the photo just show up in your mailbox with a GM return address.

Talking about magazines spreading only truths, this is what Car and Driver said about the C7 Stingray, after they received the press release from GM in their press packet. They still couldn't get it correct or does the 2014 C7 have an aluminum torque tube and not the steel torque tube that is actually in the 2014 C7 that is currently being built by GM?

".A naturally aspirated Gen V small-block 6.2-liter pushrod V-8 sits under the hood; it spins a rear-mounted transaxle via an aluminum torque tube. Dubbed the LT1, GM estimates the engine will make 450 horsepower and 450 lb-ft in base form, making it the most powerful standard Corvette to date and our (and GM's) early estimate has 0–60 times clocking in at less than four seconds."

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

In fact, when reading the GM press release that is posted on the NCM website, GM made no mention of the torque tube, thus no mention on it's construction. I wonder where C&D got the idea that it was made of aluminum? Maybe they guessed since the C6's torque tube was made of aluminum and they thought they would throw some additional info into their article on the C7 to show they had "inside' information.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
What incorrect information have I posted about a carbon fiber torque tube? Is asking for a link to where GM says the Z06 will have a carbon fiber torque spreading misinformation? I don't think so. Saying that the Z06 has a carbon fiber torque as others are doing without being able to verify it by an official press release or statement from GM is spreading misinformation.

I'm not saying the Z06 doesn't have a carbon fiber torque tube, but at the same time I'm not saying it does as others are without being able to provide a link other than some magazine article. I guess you have never seen a magazine sprint incorrect information. I have.

I'll accept that the Z06 has a carbon fiber torque tube when GM says it does, and not before. That does not mean I'm spreading incorrect information? Just the opposite.
https://www.google.com/#q=carbon+fib...ue+tube+c7+z06

take your pick; it's carbon fiber

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/01/...-not-for-sale/

that picture link is from gm authority which states, "Oh, and the torque tube is made of carbon fiber."

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