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We've just got a Camaro SS (LT1) customer reporting a 12 HP gain with our TB. Would love to claim it, but we know it is not the TB, it is the Dyno.
So, you are absolutely right. BTW, the tip in improvement is due to power gains at part throttle. Notice when you come right off idle you are using very few HP's in the (10's) if you get a few more HP's there they mean a lot percentage wise. This is what I'd really like to Dyno.
I agree, accept for the amount of HP;From my seat of the pants experience with ported TBs the 'off idle' improvement takes more than just a 'few HP' moving a 3600 lb. plus with driver car and from what I read this new one is even better.
I have tried the Katech (with the machine down throttle shaft and CNC porting) which I added additional porting too and I also tried a 'out of the box' ZR1 95 mm throttle body with the adapter/spacer (no check engine light with either) looking for 'improved performance' in the 1/4 mile, Well I was wrong! So I reinstalled the stocker to go with the factory tune. I have an A8 so I really did not have a stumble problem, just needed to apply more pedal if I wanted to accelerate faster. However I have to say that both TBs 'delivered' on the off idle performance.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; Jun 21, 2019 at 02:39 PM.
I agree, accept for the amount of HP;From my seat of the pants experience with ported TBs the 'off idle' improvement takes more than just a 'few HP' moving a 3600 lb. plus with driver car and from what I read this new one is even better.
I have tried the Katech (with the machine down throttle shaft and CNC porting) which I added additional porting too and I also tried a 'out of the box' ZR1 95 mm throttle body with the adapter/spacer (no check engine light with either) looking for 'improved performance' in the 1/4 mile, Well I was wrong! So I reinstalled the stocker to go with the factory tune. I have an A8 so I really did not have a stumble problem, just needed to apply more pedal if I wanted to accelerate faster. However I have to say that both TBs 'delivered' on the off idle performance.
Makes sense, all the aftermarket PTB's we reverse engineered do not react until you hit about 25% throttle, ours react right off idle. Those grooves you see in our design running axially go down to find the blade down low and give the engine some extra air right off idle.
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It will be the most satisfying 15 minute install of your life. I promise, the result is transformational. I went from "Seriously!? This is what I have to live with!?" with the stock TB, to "OMG I LOVE THIS CAR!" with the Soler MTB.
Exactly! I put mine on yesterday, didn't do any reset, just jumped in the car and began to drive it. I noticed a considerable difference within 30 or 40 miles. Transformed the car nearly instantly. Over the next couple of weeks, I anticipate that it will only get better. WELL worth the price of entry!!!
After 100 miles I would say yes. I'll know better after 1,000 miles. I talked with Mike and he told me to try his and if I didn't like it return it for a full refund and, since I liked the Mamo, buy a new Soler. I've had the Mamo for a year and a half and was happy with it. There was a little off idle stumble but nothing like the factory throttle body. If I hadn't tried the Soler I would have been fine with it. I'm not going to say it was night and day but it was enough difference that I sold the Mamo and kept the Soler.The only reason I got either of them was the off idle stumble. For me it was worth it even if I hadn't sold the Mamo.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12'-'13-'14-'15
Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
Is it really that much better than the Mamo ?
BLUF- ported TB is NOT a HP mod, it is a throttle response mod. All this hooplah about one is better than the other pretty much has no REAL basis IMO.
BER and now EV has been doing hand ported intakes, TB, and heads for over 15 years now. Tony is a quality porter as shown by repeated evidence and RESULTS. I am sure Soler products are great. Katech, Peak, etc etc etc..................I will say it one more time ported TB is not a HP mod and anyone who says it is without VERIFIABLE, third party tested results is just making a statement without data basis.
I would offer this. Edgyvette is willing to provide one of our ported LT throttle bodies for head to head testing by a disinterested party. We will pay shipping and you can keep the TB after testing. I am now somewhat interested in how the Soler ported TB is so much better than all the other offerings. BER and EV have always been ready to put up or shut up and others who claim their product is superior to all others should be excited at the opportunity to prove it.
Just want to point out there is a vast difference between just someone porting a throttle body to someone fully engineering one based on flow data. Can’t recommend Soler enough it’s an engineered product not just a standard port and polish job. Mike is also great to deal with.
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12'-'13-'14-'15
Originally Posted by CarAholic22
Just want to point out there is a vast difference between just someone porting a throttle body to someone fully engineering one based on flow data. Can’t recommend Soler enough it’s an engineered product not just a standard port and polish job. Mike is also great to deal with.
So you are saying the Soler TB outperforms all others? I am seriously curious to find out if there is data to show this or if it is a seat of the pants dyno feeling? It does look amazing for sure.
I am holding back from showing the EV TB flow data because this is NOT about selling TBs. I am posting in this thread because I am truly intrigued.
Mike has posted a lot of data when designing his throttle body I have yet to see any from other manufacturers. It’s not just about maximum flow its about the area in between. Maximum flow is easy to accomplish, maximize the range to there is the difficult part. Maybe other manufacturers have fully tested and flow tested this during there design process. I have yet to see any of this posted. This throttle body was never intended to be an all out maximum horsepower numbers part it was about improving drivability under wide open throttle.
Originally Posted by Cajun @ Edgyvette
So you are saying the Soler TB outperforms all others? I am seriously curious to find out if there is data to show this or if it is a seat of the pants dyno feeling? It does look amazing for sure.
I am holding back from showing the EV TB flow data because this is NOT about selling TBs. I am posting in this thread because I am truly intrigued.
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12'-'13-'14-'15
Originally Posted by CarAholic22
Mike has posted a lot of data when designing his throttle body I have yet to see any from other manufacturers. It’s not just about maximum flow its about the area in between. Maximum flow is easy to accomplish, maximize the range to there is the difficult part. Maybe other manufacturers have fully tested and flow tested this during there design process. I have yet to see any of this posted. This throttle body was never intended to be an all out maximum horsepower numbers part it was about improving drivability under wide open throttle.
Ok so there is proof that the Soler porting method (engineering) is superior and produces superior power, driveability, etc? What is the cost?
I have posted on this Soler thread in the past where Mike agreed that his TB does not increase HP but throttle response/drive-ability .
I have tried a Katech, then I ported it out to be a facsimile of a Mamo TB but with a Katech machined down throttle shaft; I called it a Tech-Mo TB ; it drove great (as expected) with 'no' dash light. I also tried the ZR1 95 mm TB with the spacer. Remember unless you port out the front of the supercharger inlet all the air going into the blower ends up going through the same sizehole!
Throttle response was great on all the throttle bodies , however I gained 'ZERO' at the track where you go from 'zero to hero' on the pedal. So I put the stock TB back on and have lived happily ever after knowing that my stock tune/trans tune, etc. is completely in sync with the factory TB.
Tech-Mo Pic: I see no real restriction except for the size of the supercharger inlet which the rear of the TB matches. Depending on Mods an engine can only consume X-amount of air.
Edit: See post #16 & the likes at the bottom of the post.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; Sep 29, 2019 at 02:06 PM.
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12'-'13-'14-'15
Originally Posted by C7/Z06 Man
I have posted on this Soler thread in the past where Mike agreed that his TB does not increase HP but throttle response/drive-ability .
I have tried a Katech, then I ported it out to be a facsimile of a Mamo TB but with a Katech machined down throttle shaft; I called it a Tech-Mo TB ; it drove great (as expected) with 'no' dash light. I also tried the ZR1 95 mm TB with the spacer. Remember unless you port out the front of the supercharger inlet all the air going into the blower ends up going through the same sizehole!
Throttle response was great on all the throttle bodies , however I gained 'ZERO' at the track where you go from 'zero to hero' on the pedal. So I put the stock TB back on and have lived happily ever after knowing that my stock tune/trans tune, etc. is completely in sync with the factory TB.
Tech-Mo Pic: I see no real restriction except for the size of the supercharger inlet which the rear of the TB matches. Depending on Mods an engine can only consume X-amount of air.
Edit: See post #16 & the likes at the bottom of the post.
And there it is folks. Thanks for the real world feedback and comparison. Any interest in trying an EV ported unit? We will pay shipping both ways. You just try it an share real, third party comparison info
And there it is folks. Thanks for the real world feedback and comparison. Any interest in trying an EV ported unit? We will pay shipping both ways. You just try it an share real, third party comparison info
You know I wanted a few companies/vendors in the past to step up and send me their product to do a fair comparison, even stating the testing method I was going to use. No one ever took me up on the offer.
So I want to "Thank You" for the offer and maybe someone will step up. However after the testing I have done; Katech, modified Katech and a OEM ZR1 95 mm throttle body with spacer I'm done.
Oh, I forgot to mention that the 60 ft. time also did not improve either. This 2015 A8 Z06 can carry the groceries on the MPSS tires with only an AFE CAI and the stock tune. Time slip below: oem tires & wheels, AFE CAI (low flow dry filter) & stock tune.
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12'-'13-'14-'15
Originally Posted by C7/Z06 Man
You know I wanted a few companies/vendors in the past to step up and send me their product to do a fair comparison, even stating the testing method I was going to use. No one ever took me up on the offer.
So I want to "Thank You" for the offer and maybe someone will step up. However after the testing I have done; Katech, modified Katech and a OEM ZR1 95 mm throttle body with spacer I'm done.
Oh, I forgot to mention that the 60 ft. time also did not improve either. This 2015 A8 Z06 can carry the groceries on the MPSS tires with only an AFE CAI and the stock tune. Time slip below: oem tires & wheels, AFE CAI (low flow dry filter) & stock tune.
Gotcha. Well let me know if you change your mind. We use our EV ported LT4 TB on our EV1150 turbo car. Supplies enough air to make 1130whp/1080 wtq on 22psi on stock heads, cam and bottom. We also tried a couple other options before realizing we gained nothing over our ported 78mm.
This video just emerged today on youtube. Here you'll find some data and a review courtesy of Kyle @ Goat Rope Garage (Darth_Vader). He is a respected member at GM-Truck forums and surely knows what he is talking about.
Guys who did the 3 step quick learn..
When you go to 44MPH and let decelerate, how long do you let it go down to?
A few seconds and back up to 44, or let it coast down to 10-15MPH?
and from what I read this new one is even better.
