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Old 07-26-2019, 11:01 PM
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I currently have a 550 rear wheel horsepower c6 with an a and a kit on it and I’m just wondering if the z06 will impress me? Not trying to start a centrifuge vs roots blower argument, just wondering if anyone had a set up close to mine now before buying there z...I will say that I was a little disappointed with that and a kit not making a ton of power down low because obviously it’s not designed that way wondering if I wouldn’t be happier with the root style supercharger… Except I don’t know how managable the c7 z is does the boost down low make it harder to drive
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The C7 Z is a torque monster. The nannies keep things under control traction wise and it does not need to rev high to produce boost and gobs of torque. You are actually better to shift a bit earlier than the redline as it keeps the engine in the area that has the most grunt.
When I was at Spring Mountain they recommended making shifts at 5500 RPM to stay in the maximum lb.ft. area. This also keeps the engine cooler than if it is wound to red line for shifts which keeps it from going to reduced power.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:20 PM
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Have you ever run your car down the 1/4 mile? If so what was the result?

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I had a 600whp c6z06 and a camaro zl1 prior to my c7z06.

The car overall is impressive.

You are used to that type of power so it's not likely to blow you away. But the torque being down low, is a different driving experience.

I would love to have another c6z with a little work, but the c7z is an overall better car than the c6...I think that holds true across the line.

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DETROIT – The all-new 2015 Corvette Z06 is the most powerful production car ever from General Motors and one of a few production cars available in the United States that delivers more than 600 horsepower.

The Z06’s LT4 supercharged 6.2L V-8 engine is SAE-certified at 650 horsepower (485 kW) at 6,400 rpm and 650 lb-ft of torque (881 Nm) at 3,600 rpm.

“The LT4 Small Block sets a new benchmark for power and torque at GM,” said Steve Kiefer, vice president, GM Powertrain Engineering. “The engine also puts the new Corvette Z06 on par with the most powerful supercars offered in America, while delivering performance with impeccable manners that make it suitable for daily driving.”

Compared with other supercar engines, the LT4 is a veritable fountain of low-end torque, producing 457 lb-ft (619 Nm) just off idle and 625 lb-ft (847 Nm) by only 2,800 rpm. The V-12-powered Ferrari F12 Berlinetta, for example, produces about 28 percent less torque than the Z06, despite offering about 12 percent more horsepower – and its peak torque isn’t achieved until 6,000 rpm. The LT4 maintains 90 percent of its peak torque, or 592 lb-ft (802 Nm), from 2,500 to 5,400 rpm.

The new LT4 engine eclipses the Porsche 911 Turbo S engine’s peak power levels by 90 horsepower (67 kW) and 134 lb-ft of torque (182 Nm).

“Torque is the pulling power of an engine and the LT4’s abundance of it at every rpm in the engine’s speed range helps the 2015 Corvette Z06 accelerate quicker and respond nearly instantaneously,” said Jordan Lee, chief engineer for Small Block engines. “It’s the very definition of power on demand.”

The new Z06 engine produces 40 percent more peak torque (180 lb-ft / 244 Nm) than the previous-generation’s 7.0L LS7 engine – and 7.5 percent more than the supercharged 2013 Corvette ZR1’s 604 lb-ft (819 Nm). At 3,200 rpm, the new LT4 surpasses the LS7 by 208 lb-ft of torque (252 Nm). On the horsepower side of the graph, the LT4’s 650-hp rating is 29 percent greater than the LS7’s 505 horsepower (376 kW), and 12 horses more than the ZR1’s LS9 engine.

“The new LT4 engine builds on the design strengths of our previous supercharged engine and leverages the technologies introduced on the Corvette Stingray – direct injection, cylinder deactivation and continuously variable valve timing – to take Corvette performance to an all-new plateau,” said Lee. “Our new, very compact supercharger also helps the engine make power more quickly, and perhaps more importantly, it helps produce more torque earlier in the rpm band.”

“It’s also worth mentioning that the LT4’s supercar performance numbers are achieved with an engine that is nearly the same size as the very compact LT1 engine introduced in the 2014 Corvette Stingray,” Lee said. “The power density of the LT4 makes it one of the smallest and lightest 650-hp engines in the industry.”


How does it feel to drive? Like a Malibu if you keep your foot out of it. Tame, docile, driveable by my wife. Your 75mph at 1700 rpm. But, "Power on demand" as they say above. Treat it with respect and it won't throw you into the trees. Drive it on a track and you don't wait for a turbo charger to spool up, you push the loud pedal and you go faster, instantly. You'll have to compare to your own car's dyno graph, but go take a test drive of a Z06 and see for yourself. There are now plenty of used Z06's such that a dealer should allow you a test drive in one. else rent a hertz z06.

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I just purchased a C7 Z06 7spd a couple days ago, I was (and still am) very impressed with the power. However, that being said, the car is such a lovable and easy to get comfortable car that after a few short days you may get "used" to the power level. But I love my car and still 650 ponies puts a huge smile on my face.
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I came out of a 300C SRT8 making 645rwhp and ran 10.74@128.5mph with a Procharger. The Z06's power down low is astonishing. It'll pull, not quite as hard as a Procharged car, but still respectable. It's everything else about the cars handling that will be better versus a base Corvette.

Not gonna lie though, I do miss sneaking up on folks with my 300. Car was stupid fast. Hit full throttle at 60mph and start laying 300' of rubber. Hoonigan
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I have owned a GTR with 575-600rwhp and a GT500 with 590rwhp and many other fast cars.

I guarantee a C7 Z06 will impress you.

It is the whole solid feel of the car, he instant torque, the sound, just wish the supercharger sound was more audible, but you can't have everything.

Just because another car is faster, does not make it better.

I am sure I would not like a Tesla P100D, sure it is fast, but where is the sound.
On the other hand, an older Ferrari California with under 500hp screaming to redline would be pretty cool.

Go drive a Z.

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Originally Posted by black.z51.c6
I currently have a 550 rear wheel horsepower c6 with an a and a kit on it and I’m just wondering if the z06 will impress me? Not trying to start a centrifuge vs roots blower argument, just wondering if anyone had a set up close to mine now before buying there z...I will say that I was a little disappointed with that and a kit not making a ton of power down low because obviously it’s not designed that way wondering if I wouldn’t be happier with the root style supercharger… Except I don’t know how managable the c7 z is does the boost down low make it harder to drive
I had a stock c5 and added a magnacharger. It was faster but not worth the money. Then I added an exhaust system, it was like adding another magnacharger, faster yet but borderline worth the money. I then had it tuned, That woke her up. Very happy with the end result.
Then the c7 Z06 came, I moved up.
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I had a '12 GS with an A&A kit as well. Added a small cam and was 580RWHP. Traded it in for my '19Z. My stock '19Z (exception of a Borla catless x-pipe), put down 585RWHP (on the same dyno) with about 1000 miles on the ODO.

I thought my '12 GS was the perfect car. Easy to drive in town, would get up and go when I needed it to.

The '19Z blows the '12 GS out of the water in EVERY aspect in my opinion. The '19Z is sooo much faster and sooo much more fun between 2000rpm and 4000rpm.

I am still utterly amazed at how much of an evolutionary jump it was from my C6 to my C7. The car is unbelievably quick and very easy to drive.

I think you will be very impressed, I know I was (and still am every time I drive the '19Z).
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If you normally drive 500 or less HP cars,yes.
If you normally drive 700 or more HP cars,probably not.

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Originally Posted by black.z51.c6
I currently have a 550 rear wheel horsepower c6 with an a and a kit on it and I’m just wondering if the z06 will impress me? Not trying to start a centrifuge vs roots blower argument, just wondering if anyone had a set up close to mine now before buying there z...I will say that I was a little disappointed with that and a kit not making a ton of power down low because obviously it’s not designed that way wondering if I wouldn’t be happier with the root style supercharger… Except I don’t know how managable the c7 z is does the boost down low make it harder to drive
Yes it will. I just went from a c7 z51 making 570 peak on a procharger to a stock c7z. It's got really good gearing and it's faster even when they have the same peak hp. Power down low due to torque is real. Then you just put a halltech intake on and it's making over 600 whp.

You'll miss the centrifugal sounds and boost feel. It's definitely a more fun feel and fun sounds. The c7z supercharger is quiet. But it's faster and the gearing makes a huge difference from my previous car. LT1 c7s have some of the worst 3-4-5 gearing I've ever seen.

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I moved up from a stock C6Z to a a C7Z M7. I was impressed with the torque of the LT4 immediately. The C7Z is a beast when you drop the right pedal.
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Originally Posted by yell03
just wish the supercharger sound was more audible, but you can't have everything.
Have you tried the Nitrous Express lid and weather stripping removal? Huge difference.
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Originally Posted by black.z51.c6
I currently have a 550 rear wheel horsepower c6 with an a and a kit on it and I’m just wondering if the z06 will impress me? Not trying to start a centrifuge vs roots blower argument, just wondering if anyone had a set up close to mine now before buying there z...I will say that I was a little disappointed with that and a kit not making a ton of power down low because obviously it’s not designed that way wondering if I wouldn’t be happier with the root style supercharger… Except I don’t know how managable the c7 z is does the boost down low make it harder to drive
traded my A6 GS w/ headers, A&A SC & a tune for a '19 Z w/ a stick. OMG! Fuccin A you'll notice the difference!
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Originally Posted by GS583
The C7 Z is a torque monster. The nannies keep things under control traction wise and it does not need to rev high to produce boost and gobs of torque. You are actually better to shift a bit earlier than the redline as it keeps the engine in the area that has the most grunt.
When I was at Spring Mountain they recommended making shifts at 5500 RPM to stay in the maximum lb.ft. area. This also keeps the engine cooler than if it is wound to red line for shifts which keeps it from going to reduced power.
Agree on the shift earlier — 5500 seems best. The lt4 Runs out of breath at higher rpm. The car is limited by its 1.7 supercharger

the car is fun with its low end torque on the street. I miss The high rpm rush of the ls7 and a stock c6z06 is a faster car up top then rhe c7z06.
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Has anyone compared how the C7Z06 compares to a Gen6 Camaro ZL1 as both use the same LT4?

Reason I ask: I had a Gen5 ZL1 (2015) w/mods that dyno'd near 600 RWHP. A few years ago, I test drove a new 2018 ZL1 and while nice, didn't get that "force you into the back of your seat" feel on acceleration that I had with my '15 ZL1. Both were automatics.

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Overall, the torque of a Z06 very much reminds me of my 69 427 435HP Vette. It is like the speedometer needle is directly connected to the accelerator pedal. . You begin to step down on the right side and the display seems to instantly begin to rise in proportion to how far you pressed the foot feed. It is an awesome feeling. The only difference is that the 427 continued pulling as hard all the way to red line where the Z06 tapers off a little bit near max RPM. I am sure the Z06 would skin the old 69 in the quarter and there would be no comparison on a road course.
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Originally Posted by cal45
Has anyone compared how the C7Z06 compares to a Gen6 Camaro ZL1 as both use the same LT4?

Reason I ask: I had a Gen5 ZL1 (2015) w/mods that dyno'd near 600 RWHP. A few years ago, I test drove a new 2018 ZL1 and while nice, didn't get that "force you into the back of your seat" feel on acceleration that I had with my '15 ZL1. Both were automatics.
The 2015 with the lsa 580 horse stock variant of the 638 horse ls9 had a bigger supercharger . While the lt4 zl1 rated higher
at 640 horse doesn’t breath as well as the lsa
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Originally Posted by thelastday
Have you tried the Nitrous Express lid and weather stripping removal? Huge difference.
No, the only thing I did was pull the exhaust fuse, it felt so artificial going silent under 1700rpms

This is one of the few cars I've owned I love stock

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