rodgard

Why would that even be necessary (and like your iPhone, you don't want to charge to 100% except for long trips from a battery life perspective)? I drive a Telsa Model 3 and the new 250kw Tesla chargers (technology marches forward) are just that quick. So for example - I left VA on a full charge (325 miles) recently heading home to NJ (abt 365 miles). After driving 200 miles (165 miles to home), I stop to charge, but I don't need to charge back up 100% to 325 miles as I have a charger at home. In this example, I have 125 miles of range remaining when I stop to charge, but I am only 165 miles from home, so I top up to 200 and off I go (so by the time I go to the bathroom and get some water the car is pinging me saying let's go LOL). When I get home, I plug in to my home charger and when I wake up the range in back up to my daily top off 275 miles (my daily commute is abt 15 miles roundtrip).
I admit that the same trip in my C8 may not even require a stop, but I can't drive 7 hours straight (nature will call), so what we a discussing here on a 7 hr journey is the delta between a 5 min ICE pit stop vs a 15 min EV stop?

JABCAT

In this example you’re only going from point A to point B & you’re done for the night. Let’s say I have to drive from San Antonio to Dallas, and when I get to Dallas I need to load up my kids to take them to their respective activities, then I need to hit the grocery store, pick up the kids, and run a couple more errands before heading home for the evening.

Can’t make it from SA to Dallas on one charge & have a schedule to keep when I get to Dallas, just can’t plug in the car & say everything has to wait. All of the above can easily be done on a full tank of gas with no stops.

Or I can make it from Dallas to Chicago only needing to stop for gas twice. How many times, and how much extra time would that add to my trip?

rodgard

thank you!

PRE-Z06

Does the range estimator take into account wind direction? I.E. if you had a tailwind the first half and then hit a front halfway and all the sudden have a headwind your range is going to drop drastically. I suppose you can always slow down to lessen the aero drag and go further as there’s no variable efficiency range with an EV it’s just the slower you go the less power you use as it mimics aero drag right?

Fast Dawg

This is why when I was in the market for a Tesla and started researching the grid, etc......I bought a MB E350.

R&L's C6

How about us up here in the north land where it gets below zero for days on end, heater and defroster on high to keep ice and snow off windows. How much range will that take from the batteries?

Bajaholic

C'mon Man... Its the new world...

Michael A

Here we go again. The EV people trying to convince us that we need to babysit our cars.

Take a long trip in an EV, and it will take 25% longer to get there. If it is cold or hot out, it will take even longer. Some places will take even longer if you are off the interstate. Some you won't even be able to go to. There's no electricity is some rural areas of the country. You know, the kind of roads that are really fun in a Corvette.

The woke government, the woke auto companies, and the woke EV nuts are way overestimating the public's tolerance for long charging times. You watch.

msm859

Are these really common occurrences for you? If so, then maybe EV's are not for you at this time. I have not driven more than 500 miles in a singe day in probably 20 years. You would actually drive Dallas to Chicago and not fly? And you missed what the OP was trying to say by their real world experience. When traveling long distance, virtually NO one charges to 100%. So measuring that time - which is only done to skew the total length since the last 20% really slows down - is a false narrative. The new Tesla Plaids will actually charge at full speed just past 30% - this is big. If they can sustain that up to 50% it will be driving another nail in the concern for charging speed. Likewise as range increases the importance of charging speed decreases - and visa versa. Too many people want to talk about these statistic outlier cases to argue EV's aren't for prime time. But in the real world with normal use, they are ready for more people then one would suggest. Do I want more range- yes - I want over 400 miles . Do I want faster charging - yes -sustained full speed up to 50%. After that happens it will be pretty much a non issue 99.99% of the time. For me now, it is a non issue 95% of the time. And overall I am spending less time charging then I would be gassing up an ICE in a year.

PCMIII

Comparably priced Corvette and Tesla Model S

Cost to drive 25 miles:

Corvette -- $6.36

Tesla -- $0.92

Massive operating cost difference -- 7X -- is going to doom ICE vehicles.

R&L's C6

Care to post how you come up with those figures or if you're figuring in the cost of replacing the battery?

HandOverFist

It will be alright...you folks can always download some sounds and play them on the speakers while driving...

PCMIII

Fueleconomy.gov

How often do I have to replace the battery?

HandOverFist

If I ever have to go electric I would much rather have something like this...

R&L's C6

I have read 7 to 10 years, it's a delayed expense people like to ignore.

HandOverFist

Maybe the tire manufacturers can come up with an acoustical tread pattern that simulates that engine growl...

Mad*Max

Isn't the cost of the replacement battery gonna be more than what the car is worth at that time?

R&L's C6

I have read the the average price for a battery is around 10k, so it's coming off the price of a used car unless the buyer is an idiot.

msm859

Actually it is more of a mileage thing then a time thing. Somewhere between 300,000 - 500,000 miles. Or in other words an academic question for 99% of the buyers out there.

https://getoptiwatt.com/blog/how-lon...ry-really-last

HandOverFist

One can generally measure battery life by mileage or time, but it is actually cycles that determine it's lifespan. There are some exceptions.