Ok big guy

 

Just curious how many forced induction cars have you owned or built? I actually grenaded my 01 Z with the first ATI D1 on a C5 back in early 2002, it was because there was no real stand alone tuning software (pre LS1edit mail order after dyno run) or internal Walbro/LPE fuel pumps readily available. I went with an Aeromotive 1000 inline fuel pump and it wasn't set up right with the tune, and leaned out and popped at least 4 pistons (broken ring lands). The hypereutectic pistons in the early LS1/6 were not very forgiving. Trying to run 10 psi on a 10.5:1 CR engine without good tuning or fuel...equals bad idea.

However with today's knowledge and tuning I'm doubtful that a properly installed system especially at only 8 psi will grenade the motor. There are other tuners on here doing dyno runs with their twin turbo setups, and fueling does not appear to be an issue for anything under 10psi. Notice also the Procharger setup is 200hp not 200 rwhp, turbo setups do not experience the parasitic loss a belt driven power adder does, which means it it doesn't require the same amount of fuel to make the same amount of hp. A turbo that makes 100 hp vs. a Centri/PD that has to make 150hp to make 100hp, due to parasitic loss it requires fuel to make 150hp for 100hp.

Besides not having stand alone tuning software available for the C8, the biggest weakness is the DCT right now..this is why BMW split from it after years of dealing with it on higher hp applications, and went back to tq converters. After the DCT issue is solved, the output shafts will become the next weakest link. For a reliable FI setup on the C8, the DCT will have to be gone over, and if it has to come out it would be a good idea to replace the output shafts as well.

 

Since you have owned an FI vehicle, then of course we know tuning for horsepower, and tuning for longevity are completely different animals. A reliable FI tune is way more than just throwing in fuel, especially on a high compression set up. 200 hp is a huge jump over what the stock system is engineered for. I know Procharger sure knows what they are doing, but unless there is a way to reduce timing and actually tune the trans I wouldn't be an early adopter.

 

I've had two different Procharged cars. 8psi on one and 14psi w/ meth on the other. Both with 20k miles, no issues at all. And I beat the **** out of them both.

Sold as is and now waiting on my C8

 

I have never owned a supercharged car, but it would seem that with the bottom end being essentially the same as the LT1, the LT2 should be able to meet similar horsepower numbers and reliability as the LT1. So, I'd agree the DCT is the next factor, but if if can be tuned to limit the power at lower RPM by pulling timing or maybe even limiting throttle position, then it would seem that total horsepower would be similar as well. Personally I'd be okay with a 100 horsepower improvement of the bottom and 200 horsepower limit on the top (less torque applied). Even a $3,000 engine out wouldn't really be a deal breaker since you'd still be far below the cost of a Z06 for that money.

Primarily for me the benefit would be improved top end grunt since the car launches extremely well already, It's only when max horsepower becomes a factor that the car, compared to other high horsepower cars, starts to loose its legs. $10,000 installed would seem to be a bargin, no?

 

I believe the aluminum manifold swap was required to make adequate spacing for the head unit to be installed. The pictures look to show the jackshaft with cog pulley driven off the accessory drive. I think a screw blower might make for an easier install. One disadvantage with this setup is I don't see how it could be intercooled unless an air/water exchanger setup is used and located in the available truck space. Ripping out the truck leaves all sorts of room for a trick twin turbo setup, looking forward to seeing someone tackle that in the not too distant future.

 

looks to me like it’s an air to water manifold. Be interesting to see if the MAF can take the heat and not melt as well as were they are planning on mounting the Heat exchangers.

 

You're correct, I didn't note the bottom form factor of the manifold which looks to house the I/C.

 

The MAF is most likely pre blower. Like the 19 and up trucks.
Billy

 

Ahhh Yeah that would make sense. Wounded if that would be a massive restriction? Maybe they will provide a MAF upgrade as well?

 

Its a card MAF.

 

Just to clarify, owned and designed a few different FI systems. Glad to see you at least understand some basics. Had 12K miles on my TT setup before I sold it. Car is still running strong after 7 years per the owner...same tune. The thing that goes out mainly are turbo seals.

 

https://treperformance.com/i-2390275...plete-kit.html

 

I have over 60K miles on my completely un-opened LS2 making over 600 whp (knocks on wood). I still feel the LS motors are the best motors ever made by GM for simplicity, cost, and ease of making horsepower. I'm at the stage of feeling like adding a cam, fuel system, and built trans, or "it aint broke don't f-with it stupid". 650-700 whp seems like a pretty good sweet spot for a street car.

I do look forward to seeing the Procharger Kits on some C8s, as I would love to eventually get one. The only issue being that a nicely optioned C8 with a $20K FI package will probably put you in new C8 Z06 territory.