The % of power made with fossil fuels is ~80%, burning biomass (dumb) ~10%, nuclear ~7%, wind/solar/hydro/geothermal ~3%. We've got a LONG way to go.

 

You may well be right, dude. We've got one hell of a challenge in front of us. There is no way to convert from fossil fuel energy in time to prevent CO2 concentration from going above 500 ppm and potentially all the way to 1000 ppm where is was in the Triassic Epoch 200M years ago.

The only way to keep temperatures close to where we are today is geo-engineering - specifically Solar Radiation Management (SRM). Injecting an aerosol of 1M to 5M metric tons of sulfate or calcite (limestone) dust in the stratosphere can reflect enough sunlight away from the troposphere to keep temperatures in check, even at these high CO2 concentrations. It will require a fleet of 300-500 specialized aircraft capable of lofting 15 tons of the stuff to 65,000 ft. on 3 sorties a day. These aircraft would have the capability of a U-2S AND a C-130 in one airframe. Think Apollo-level technology and commitment. Here's another catch, once you start this you can't stop it. The aerosol is only good for three years and so must constantly be replenished.

The trick is to keep both the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets intact. Once these melt, there is no going back, and sea levels will rise more than 200 feet over the next 1000 years. At that point EVERYTHING on today's coasts is under water.

 

We sure do, and unfortunately it takes hundreds of years for co2 gases to dissipate from the atmosphere. And then we have the plastic container mass in the Pacific ocean. What mankind has done to the planet in the last hundred years is criminal, and we'll likely be cursed by our children and grandchildren for the mess we gave them.
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ses-remain-air

 

Wouldn’t it be much easier to discuss production rather than deliveries. Every Corvette produced is delivered (except for a handful that are used internally for testing) and sold.

 

We have a new 300 MW generating plant that runs on coal, not gas. We also have an older plant that has 3 of the 5 boilers/generators shut down and the two remaining boilers running on gas,. They use to run on coal, but were converted to gas because delivering coal by train had become a problem as the ciy has grown and the railroad tracks run through the city and the coal trains were blocking the streets, holding up traffic which pissed the citizens off, so they bitched to the mayor. The generating plants are owned by the city, so the plants were converted to gas to make the people happy, not because it saved any money or saved lives.

The new 300 MW plant is running on coal, as the railroad tracks to it are outside the city limits and don't block any roads.

If the 300 MW plant(that cost $1.2 billion including paying off the Bonds) actually would cost less to run on gas vs coal, it would be very easy for the city to convert. from coal to gas, but they haven't.

Same goes with solar. The city had some unused land so they installed solar panels and then bragged about how they cared about the earth. as they were now "green". LOL. Then they looked at doing another solar installation, but since they didn't have any unused land for it, they would have to buy the land for the solar panels. That made the solar more expensive than coal. So, they very quietly dropped the idea of expanding solar.

I'm with you, I don't want my electric(to cool my house pus my lights, TV, range, microwave, computer, float chargers on my three Corvettes, etc) bills sky rocketing because a bunch of loonies want to plug in their EV's to my grid and I do not want my natural gas bills(that heat my house plus my water) to increase because a bunch of loonies believe that gas is cheaper than coal.

The true cost to produce electricity is when it becomes political as it is here in Springfield, MO. The city is run by an elected official and the city owns the utility company(electricity, gas, water, sewer) in the city.

If, say the mayor told City Utilities to switch to using gas tomorrow and the price to the citizen of Springfield went up, then the public would want to know why. If they didn't like paying higher prices for electricity, then they would most likely vote the mayor out of office. Since Ken likes his job, he isn't going to do anything dumb to get himself kicked out of office.

 

Sounds as if the .gov needs to pay Musk's SpaceX to load up his rocket ships and send all that excess CO2 and plastic water bottles into outer space.

 

Sometimes you are a real hoot. For example your statement about one's butt being 17" off the pavement in a C7. My butt is 11" off the pavement in my C6 Z06 and I have not lowered it 6 inches. LOL.

The other is your statement about the Tesla's CofG being a foot lower than other sedans. My C2 has a 16 .5" CofG and my C6 has a 17.5" CofG. I don't know what my Mercedes sedan's CofG is but I doubt it is a foot more than my C2 or C6. Sure, the Tesla has a very heavy battery located under the floorboard, but the car still has to have around a 6" clearance to the pavement, same as my Mercedes's engine, transmission, differential. driveshaft, exhaust pipe and muffler and gas tank. has to have the same clearance. I suspect that my ICE Mercedes has no more than 18 or 19 inches C0fG, and I doubt that the Tesla Model S CofG is lower than 15 inches. There is still a hell of a lot of weight in the Tesla above the floorboard that raises the CofG. Of course, I could pour a bunch of concrete in my Mercedes's floorboard to get the CofG down to equal the Tesla's weight and CofG.

You are clearly stretching the bounds of believability with your "facts".

Care to explain why nearly 17 million Americans purchased an ICE vehicle for an average price of $35,000 last year instead of the very, very, very, very few that purchased a $140,000 EV that can do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds?

Could it be because 99% of Americans don't give a **** about a car that can do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds and they sure don't care to spend another $105,000 for one that does?

1% does not start to equal the 99% that could care less about the acceleration of a $140,000 Tesla. It's magazine racing for the teenyboppers, at it's finest, and nothing more than that.

 

Yep it's coming so get used to it.

 

It's like.. like it or lump it.

 

Yep I guess you were using the "editorial" we because "we" won't be here. Frankly I don't think "we" will be around in 100 years.

 

OK, a foot is an estimate, it doesn't change my point that an EV with a huge freaking battery pack in the floorpan of the car will have a very low CG - lower than is possible with any other type of construction. The 17" quote was referring to the CG height of the entire C7, not just my fat *** and is sourced from Road &Track.

Finally, it would be nice if we could gather all the excess CO2 and send it to Mars or the bottom of the ocean, but that is impossible - just like pushing a wet cooked spaghetti noodle in a straight line across your dining room table. The CO2 mixes with the air and stays for 1000 years at concentrations too high for comfort but too low to easily collect and remove. Proof, once again, that the Second Law of Thermodynamics reigns forever. We are going to have to pay for a bunch of high performance airplanes and a lot of brimstone or limestone to create a sunshade over our entire planet, probably by the end of the next decade.

 

LOL! This sounds like the "Energy Crisis" and impending "Ice Age" BS we had shoved down our throats in the 1970's. What ever happened to all that nonsense? Global warming indeed.

 

With the huge amount of Americans going with tall riding CUV's/SUV's added on to the very popular high riding pickup trucks they buy each year, do you really believe that anyone gives a **** how low the center of gravity is on a Tesla, or any other EV?


Look at what people are buying. You should come up with a correct answer pretty quickly about how great the importance of the center of gravity is of vehicle they choose to buy. People don't care if the center of gravity is 11 inches or 21 inches. Same as with how quick the vehicle is 0-60. They don't care, and are not going to pay out the Yazoo for something they don't care about.

 

Some fun facts for you. At a level
of 0 ppm of CO2, the Earth is 50 degrees C colder - an iceball - the oceans are completely frozen over. At a level of 500-1000 ppm CO2, the Earth is 8 degrees C hotter - the Sahara is a tropical forest and the ice caps are completely melted. How do we know ? Its all locked in the geological record dating back 4.5B years. Atmospheric CO2 is THE primary driver of temperature, and it has been since the beginning.

Here's another fun fact - humanity is a weed.
For most of its long history, the Earth has been uninhabitable by humans. Only in the last 300 million years has complex life on land even been possible. The first weed were the dinosaurs - they dominated everywhere but were wiped out by three bad years after an asteroid hit the Yucatan penisula.

We are the second weed and our reckoning is surely coming. We replaced the dinosaurs because our mammal ancestors had this strange habit of storing food in underground burrows. If you want to see where we came from and why it is we have hair instead of scales, watch the squirrels in your back yard. They had and have the good sense to plan ahead for a rainy day.

If we don't recognize how to preserve the current conditions of the Holocene and plan ahead, then we will perish as a species. The Earth, however, will keep right on spinning as if we were never here - probably with a few lucky squirrels.

 

It's kind of surprising when you consider how short the time that humans have been on this planet. Humans first appeared in the fossil record around 66 million years ago, soon after the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event that eliminated about three-quarters of plant and animal species on Earth, including most dinosaurs.Sometimes it's better to use an analogy to illustrate how short the time has been. If the Earth formed at midnight and the present moment is the next midnight, 24 hours later, modern humans have been around since 11:59:59pm—1 second.

 

Wow, we are all going to "perish", fancy that. Too bad Man, just when it was getting good. We all better get our C8s before all this terrible C02 stops the world or whatever the tree huggers scream about.

Doesn't AOC say that we will all be gone in 12 short years? Good thing we are blessed with a bunch of Liberal whack jobs who feel they can rescue us all from our selves. The Green New Deal will save us all! Hallelujah! No more cars, no more air travel, no more cows, damn, can't wait Dude. Tell China and India to get on board with this farce and observe their response.

 

But it's a good way of stimulating the economy. As a matter of fact I'm going to buy that GT2RS that I've been lusting after for the past few weeks, especially if I can get the dam thing at MSRP instead of MSRP + $50K ADM.

 

I get it that you don't want your bills going up;
But are you really willing to flood NYC and Miami to keep those bills lower?
And displace those 35M people to other parts of the country?

 

Are you okay?Maybe you should lie down.

 

Man will have no decision in this.