Press embargo
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From: Boyd Wisconsin
Press embargo
Does anybody know when the embargo is over? Motortrend has had one already and done instrumented tests. Just wondering how much longer we have to wait for actual numbers and driving impressions?
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Sep 15, 2019, 11:33 AM
Melting Slicks
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Sorry, this is just a car, not the Manhattan Project. If the car was ready for a prime time debut it should be ready for full and independent evaluation simultaneously, just like every other vehicle out there. There are either issues they are still working through in which case the car should not have been revealed yet or they are grossly mismanaging it’s debut with vastly hyped expectations that if not met will cause lots of criticism when it is finally released.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
This isn’t anything special.
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As the the OP's question, they have an upcoming monthly issue coming so likely a couple weeks! Even then they might not be able to release all info.
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Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
Melting Slicks
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Sorry, this is just a car, not the Manhattan Project. If the car was ready for a prime time debut it should be ready for full and independent evaluation simultaneously, just like every other vehicle out there. There are either issues they are still working through in which case the car should not have been revealed yet or they are grossly mismanaging it’s debut with vastly hyped expectations that if not met will cause lots of criticism when it is finally released.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
This isn’t anything special.
Last edited by Kappa; Sep 15, 2019 at 11:42 AM.
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Sorry, this is just a car, not the Manhattan Project. If the car was ready for a prime time debut it should be ready for full and independent evaluation simultaneously, just like every other vehicle out there. There are either issues they are still working through in which case the car should not have been revealed yet or they are grossly mismanaging it’s debut with vastly hyped expectations that if not met will cause lots of criticism when it is finally released.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
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The driver from MT was teasing November for the embargo release of driving impressions.
That could mean November on the calendar or the November issue of MT which would be a few weeks before.
That could mean November on the calendar or the November issue of MT which would be a few weeks before.
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Speaking of the Motor Trend test, they keep publicizing a video of their often mentioned figure eight test, and when I use the link to view the video, nothing comes up. Has anybody actually seen this video, or is this just another annoying tease?
In defense of the people who want to know what the performance numbers are going to be, they may be on the fence about buying a different car. Those people might be doing some kind of competitive driving and you don't really want to invest $70,000-$80,000 and then find out that a ten year old car that you could pick up for $15.000 would have been faster.
In defense of the people who want to know what the performance numbers are going to be, they may be on the fence about buying a different car. Those people might be doing some kind of competitive driving and you don't really want to invest $70,000-$80,000 and then find out that a ten year old car that you could pick up for $15.000 would have been faster.
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In defense of the people who want to know what the performance numbers are going to be, they may be on the fence about buying a different car. Those people might be doing some kind of competitive driving and you don't really want to invest $70,000-$80,000 and then find out that a ten year old car that you could pick up for $15.000 would have been faster.
They can wait.
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It works the same way with every new vehicle debut and car reviews. A publication requests a car for testing, the manufacturer agrees to provide one, and a contract is executed between the parties barring publication until an agreed upon date. Thus, publication of a review is routinely the subject of a legally binding "embargo."
Obviously, any publisher going to play by the manufacturers' rules if they want to continue testing cars in the future and avoid lawsuits.
Obviously, any publisher going to play by the manufacturers' rules if they want to continue testing cars in the future and avoid lawsuits.
Last edited by Foosh; Sep 15, 2019 at 01:17 PM.
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They can wait, unless they can't. A new competition season will be starting early next year, which means that, if the C8 is going to be the greatest thing ever, you might want to have your order in right now. If the C8 turns out to be nothing but a pretty face, then the people who held out will be relieved and the people who took the plunge on a leap of faith will be really disappointed.
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This is standard operating procedure for nearly every every manufacturer with a new model being tested by auto journalists. I don't see how this is being "grossly mismanaged". Have you never wondered why nearly every auto journalist releases their information at the same time as every other auto journalist? It's by design.
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You're complaining about having to wait 4-5 months since the C8 was introduced. The same exact timeframe. Shame.
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Toyota had the press drive Supra prototypes in the summer of 2018 and didn't release them for official testing until late spring of this year. It's official introduction was in January so there was a 5 month wait before official tests.
You're complaining about having to wait 4-5 months since the C8 was introduced. The same exact timeframe. Shame.
You're complaining about having to wait 4-5 months since the C8 was introduced. The same exact timeframe. Shame.
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Sorry, this is just a car, not the Manhattan Project. If the car was ready for a prime time debut it should be ready for full and independent evaluation simultaneously, just like every other vehicle out there. There are either issues they are still working through in which case the car should not have been revealed yet or they are grossly mismanaging it’s debut with vastly hyped expectations that if not met will cause lots of criticism when it is finally released.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
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Sorry, this is just a car, not the Manhattan Project. If the car was ready for a prime time debut it should be ready for full and independent evaluation simultaneously, just like every other vehicle out there. There are either issues they are still working through in which case the car should not have been revealed yet or they are grossly mismanaging it’s debut with vastly hyped expectations that if not met will cause lots of criticism when it is finally released.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.
Why not simply wait wait until it’s fully ready? Part of the hype of a new production sports car is the independent evaluations raving about its performance and qualities. I know of no other automotive product debut shrouded in this absurd level of secrecy.
Don't get me wrong, I hope it lives up to every expectation and I have a deposit for a second tier allocation at one of the big Vette dealers, however I will not proceed until I see at least an in-depth independent evaluation. Hopefully Motor Tend delivers on their test. Enough drama already.