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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by larryfdx
Does anyone know when this embargo is over?
Apparently not.

But at least we have a lot of quality commentary from the peanut gallery...
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sin City
Honestly the "press embargo" should be illegal. Its manipulation and intimidation of the free press.

Why the media lets manufacturers get away with this is beyond me. Its against everything they stand for.

If you have a story you should print it or publish it. If you are first, so be it. If you are last -- too bad for you.
GM is under no obligation to give magazines early access to the cars. If the rags want early access, they agree to GM's terms. If they don't want to agree to the terms, they don't get a car until well after the other rags do. This is a contract situation, not a first amendment issue. If they agree to the terms, and violate them, they won't get a car next time.

If the cars were on sale to the public, and GM tried to prevent the magazines from buying and reporting on one, THAT would be a first amendment issue, as well as restraint of trade. This isn't.

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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by larryfdx
Does anyone know when this embargo is over?
According to dasgimpen on IG, who was testing the C8 recently for Motor Trend, “not for several weeks”. That’s his quote from 3 days ago.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Phanni
Since thee are still no production vehicles out there, what do you want them to evaluate?

No production vehicles? They are up to at least SN13 (vin #s w/o EX at end) so yes, there are production cars built.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 10:26 AM
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Yes, at the NCM gathering at the end of August, BG Plant Director, Kai Spande, clearly stated "saleable production vehicles" were being produced at that time on the regular production line with C7s. He continued in saying production cars (not engineering mules), will be delivered to reviewers in September. After being used as demos and testers, they will eventually be provided to dealers and sold to customers with full warranties.

As of end of August, over 100 production C8s had been built at BG on the regular assembly line.

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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nm2far
Please cite another automotive public release where there is the level of managed hype.
How about this one....THREE years before the car WAS ACTUALLY FOR SALE....

Next.

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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 09:24 PM
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LENO!
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 03:03 AM
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Embargo?...….this isn't an embargo. A real embargo is Ford not allowing Motor Trend test the latest generation Ford GT around Laguna Seca with Randy Pobst at the wheel. The car has been out since 2017. Now that's an embargo!!

What's the matter Ford.....are you a little worried that the lap times might not be competitive with cars costing 75% less? Rumor has it that there has been a run....hopefully we'll see the numbers soon.
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 08:19 AM
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For those wondering about when the embargo is lifted, Jason Cammisa, with R&T,says the "Driving impressions embargoed for a couple of weeks but stay tuned for lots of awesomeness." He also states it's a pre-production unit.

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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 01:50 PM
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I'm seeing 11/16 as an embargo date, as provided by at least one writer participating in the event at Thunderhill.
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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Apparently, they are using pre-production units with faster TCU software and increased HP. One car dyno'd at 481 whp. More like 520 crank HP. According to Horsepower freaks on IG.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebz06
We don't know ANYTHING about what the C8 will do except for 0-60 times. What I am trying to say is that to buy a C8 right now assuming that it will be a world beater is assuming a lot and putting a lot of faith in GM. I was running a C4 when the C5 came out. The C5 was lighter and had about 50% more power. I don't remember having any trouble with C5's until the Z06 iteration came out. I could have looked at the numbers and the press releases and decided that I was going to have to buy the new car to stay competitive and if I had, I would have been kicking myself.

You are assuming that the C8 is going to be a phenomenal sports car, and I really hope that it is, but there is no proof of that, yet. If the C8 turns out to be a step back from the C7 instead of forward like the C5 was slower than the C4, then a lot of older cars could be competitive with it, not just the GT3.
Actually, it is evident that the C8 will be a stellar performer. The C8 has a better suspension design then the Porsches. It is a little heavier than I would have liked, but a carbon fiber frame would have increased the price way beyond $60,000. The weight distribution (40-60) is a little more rear biased than I expected probably so that the hybrid front additional weight version will have an acceptable weight distribution. Regardless, the 60 percent rear weight can be easily managed by the electronics and also will improve rear traction.

The C8 will be a better and faster sports car than any other previous Corvette.

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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JDogg
I'm seeing 11/16 as an embargo date, as provided by at least one writer participating in the event at Thunderhill.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleLion
Actually, it is evident that the C8 will be a stellar performer. The C8 has a better suspension design then the Porsches. It is a little heavier than I would have liked, but a carbon fiber frame would have increased the price way beyond $60,000. The weight distribution (40-60) is a little more rear biased than I expected probably so that the hybrid front additional weight version will have an acceptable weight distribution. Regardless, the 60 percent rear weight can be easily managed by the electronics and also will improve rear traction.

The C8 will be a better and faster sports car than any other previous Corvette.
You have a lot of faith in the Corvette design team. I hope you are right.
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