Second thoughts
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Indeed. When the C6 ZR1 came out, there were tons of posts like "I'll never pay $115K for a Corvette...I'll wait till they're 5% off". Then it was: "I'll wait till they're 10% off". and then it was....you get the idea. Reality was they were NEVER buyers in the first place.
Indeed. When the C6 ZR1 came out, there were tons of posts like "I'll never pay $115K for a Corvette...I'll wait till they're 5% off". Then it was: "I'll wait till they're 10% off". and then it was....you get the idea. Reality was they were NEVER buyers in the first place.
Drifting
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From: Saint John's, Florida
hi all,been hashing over getting c8 next year or when available. but started thinking about a couple of things,1 in the c7 you can just reach back and grab something from the back even put your small dogs back there wont help me i have great danes i know not a big deal but 2 isolating the passenger so it looks like there in a different car. with the info center tilted to driver it looks as though the passenger couldnt help with anything i think that takes away from passengers fun in the vet. and with the c7 prices dropping like a rock you can get a grand sport lt2 for high fiftys to low sixtys. dont know whats your thoughts
If you are over 6' tall or weigh more than 200 lbs it may be too tight and you may not fit comfortably,
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This place....
Just like the C7 intro, where C6 guys by the dozens, trolled the C7 soon to be owners. Now, 6 years later, we have C7 owners trolling C8 soon to be owners. Didn't understand it then, Don't understand it now. I mean, there IS a very active C7 sub-forum here. If I still had my C7, that is certainly be where I would spend my time...instead of stating my opinion over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (you get the idea). I guess I'm weird....I've never gained any joy or satisfaction telling people that they're wrong for choosing this car (or any car). Just seems like a dick move.
Just like the C7 intro, where C6 guys by the dozens, trolled the C7 soon to be owners. Now, 6 years later, we have C7 owners trolling C8 soon to be owners. Didn't understand it then, Don't understand it now. I mean, there IS a very active C7 sub-forum here. If I still had my C7, that is certainly be where I would spend my time...instead of stating my opinion over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (you get the idea). I guess I'm weird....I've never gained any joy or satisfaction telling people that they're wrong for choosing this car (or any car). Just seems like a dick move.
Never seen a group of cheap whiny holier than thou people in my life than the vette crowd
"like the cars, the crowd not so much"
Le Mans Master
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From: North Dallas 40 TX
This place....
Just like the C7 intro, where C6 guys by the dozens, trolled the C7 soon to be owners. Now, 6 years later, we have C7 owners trolling C8 soon to be owners. Didn't understand it then, Don't understand it now. I mean, there IS a very active C7 sub-forum here. If I still had my C7, that is certainly be where I would spend my time...instead of stating my opinion over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (you get the idea). I guess I'm weird....I've never gained any joy or satisfaction telling people that they're wrong for choosing this car (or any car). Just seems like a dick move.
Just like the C7 intro, where C6 guys by the dozens, trolled the C7 soon to be owners. Now, 6 years later, we have C7 owners trolling C8 soon to be owners. Didn't understand it then, Don't understand it now. I mean, there IS a very active C7 sub-forum here. If I still had my C7, that is certainly be where I would spend my time...instead of stating my opinion over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (you get the idea). I guess I'm weird....I've never gained any joy or satisfaction telling people that they're wrong for choosing this car (or any car). Just seems like a dick move.
What I don’t do is spend my time going on the on C1-C8 boards and bagging on them continuously. It adds nothing to the discussion. It would rude to those that love their cars.
While a new model is being developed it is fun and maybe useful talk about what one would or would not like to see. It may even influence things if GM reads the boards. However, once revealed, they will not be changing anything in a substantive way. They have spent too much money that they need to recover first. They will not be putting in a manual, or removing the trunk, or the passenger seat or the row of buttons for the foreseeable future. Just not happening. Telling everyone that doesn’t want to hear how ugly YOU think the car is does zero good. You are not a potential buyer. Done.Go back to your respective forum for and talk about the car you do like. It is more pleasant for everyone. And people there might get something positive out of your discussion there.
i don’t go to people’s social media pages and insult them, their friends, and family, and pets, and house, and car. Why do it here? It is just rude.
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Patience Grasshopper! I would have thought the average potential Vette Buyer was over 13.
I didn't really like the C5 that much, they fixed it with the C6. I prefer the higher horse normally aspirated engine. The C6 Z06 or 427 Vert were more along the lines of what I like than the C7 choices. I really like the ME Cars. Always preferred the ME V8 Ferraris to the the big 12's. If the C8 Z06 comes with a 600 bhp 5.5L Normally Aspirated engine it will be time to trade again. If a true manual is an option better yet. If it turns out to be a ZR1-Jr (Turbo) then I will settle for the LT2. After all it's still the quickest normally aspirated Corvette in history (Unless you count the 69 ZL1).
I didn't really like the C5 that much, they fixed it with the C6. I prefer the higher horse normally aspirated engine. The C6 Z06 or 427 Vert were more along the lines of what I like than the C7 choices. I really like the ME Cars. Always preferred the ME V8 Ferraris to the the big 12's. If the C8 Z06 comes with a 600 bhp 5.5L Normally Aspirated engine it will be time to trade again. If a true manual is an option better yet. If it turns out to be a ZR1-Jr (Turbo) then I will settle for the LT2. After all it's still the quickest normally aspirated Corvette in history (Unless you count the 69 ZL1).
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Drifting
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hi all,been hashing over getting c8 next year or when available. but started thinking about a couple of things,1 in the c7 you can just reach back and grab something from the back even put your small dogs back there wont help me i have great danes i know not a big deal but 2 isolating the passenger so it looks like there in a different car. with the info center tilted to driver it looks as though the passenger couldnt help with anything i think that takes away from passengers fun in the vet. and with the c7 prices dropping like a rock you can get a grand sport lt2 for high fiftys to low sixtys. dont know whats your thoughts
Drifting
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Patience Grasshopper! I would have thought the average potential Vette Buyer was over 13.
I didn't really like the C5 that much, they fixed it with the C6. I prefer the higher horse normally aspirated engine. The C6 Z06 or 427 Vert were more along the lines of what I like than the C7 choices. I really like the ME Cars. Always preferred the ME V8 Ferraris to the the big 12's. If the C8 Z06 comes with a 600 bhp 5.5L Normally Aspirated engine it will be time to trade again. If a true manual is an option better yet. If it turns out to be a ZR1-Jr (Turbo) then I will settle for the LT2. After all it's still the quickest normally aspirated Corvette in history (Unless you count the 69 ZL1).
I didn't really like the C5 that much, they fixed it with the C6. I prefer the higher horse normally aspirated engine. The C6 Z06 or 427 Vert were more along the lines of what I like than the C7 choices. I really like the ME Cars. Always preferred the ME V8 Ferraris to the the big 12's. If the C8 Z06 comes with a 600 bhp 5.5L Normally Aspirated engine it will be time to trade again. If a true manual is an option better yet. If it turns out to be a ZR1-Jr (Turbo) then I will settle for the LT2. After all it's still the quickest normally aspirated Corvette in history (Unless you count the 69 ZL1).
Le Mans Master
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From: New England
This statement is already 100% incorrect. Not quite sure why everyone believes the C7 sets the pattern for sales of Corvette, but it doesn't. And 6 months goes by........bullshit, so Kerbeck is taking orders for 2021 cars and demand is met in 6 months of the first 2020 cars?????? When I was selling new Corvettes, I was at a dealership that was in the top 10% of Corvette sales when Chevy had over 4,000 franchised stores (as in we had allocation, not 3 cars a year) and I was still selling C5 for MSRP for the first two and a half years, and then it was a token discount. C7 hasn't set any sales records, it is a fine car, but it was also a stop gap to the ME car (worst kept secret in the car world). When the C7 was introduced, was there a nation wide dealer display tour? Did 5,000 people line up at a single dealership and wait 3-4 hours like they just did in Texas a couple days ago? No, the first year of C7 was bought by the Corvette loyal that wanted the new model year Corvette and then it fell off. They quickly threw out special editions (GS, Z06, ZR-1, etc.) to try and keep interest up, they did the same thing in 1996 (GS, Collectors Edition). There has NEVER been the interest and excitement of any model Corvette in it's history as this car, that is a simple fact. I'm not some foolish fan that thinks they just made perfection, they didn't. It will have it's teething pains and problems, etc., but this is not going to be 6 months and then they are collecting dust on dealer lots, it will not happen.
Anyone buying one of these should really just expect the typical Corvette depreciation after you buy it, and especially if you keep it more than a year. Also keep in mind not everyone is getting their C8 the first month or two after they hit dealer lots, some people won't get theirs for 3-6+ months after they start shipping which means the 2021's will be right around the corner and that alone will cause some depreciation.
Le Mans Master
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Thinking of getting a new C7 crossed my mind too. I currently have a 2014 coupe and thought about saving a few dollars. Actually went to my dealer and looked at a few. My sales person asked me one question that sealed the deal for me on a C8. He asked me what I would think the first time I saw a C8 and I was driving a C7. Put a deposit on a C8.
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Yeah unless there is a major issue or two or a major financial crisis C8's will be in high demand for 18+ months. After that though it is inevitable that supply meets or surpasses demand and you will start seeing discounts and rebates as well as a lot of used ones. Especially after the C8 Z06 is announced.
Le Mans Master
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They will see how demand goes before they even launch Z06. Not only that, I rarely see a Z06 on the street compared to standard Corvette. What you see on this site skews the real world. This is a Corvette forum with the hard core fans and of the highest performing Corvettes too. My proof is look at the numbers of Z06 in C7 vs. standard, the standard car didn't stop being built because of it, not in the least. What isn't being taken into account is there are hundreds of thousands of Corvette owners that don't go to forums or ever have their voices heard. There are some buyers that don't blink at $100k Corvette, but on daily sales of the car they are the exception more so than the rule. More proof is the number of leftover C7 Z06, quite a few and even more so when you consider the small total numbers actually made.
Let's say the Z06 is released 18 months after the C8. I think this is conservative but say they sell 60K C8's in 18 months and 1% of all C8 owners decide to upgrade to a C8 Z06. That's 600 used C8's hitting the lots on top of the hundreds, if not thousands, of used ones already on dealer lots for all the various reasons that people sell a car with less than 2 years of ownership. If 2% of C8 owners decide to upgrade to a Z06 that's over 1200 used cars hitting the lot.
These aren't Porsche 911 or GTR numbers the Corvette is a highly massed produced car and Chevy dealers always order more than they can sell which supply catches up. It is what it is, there are only so many people that want a new Corvette every year.
Racer
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Bought my C7 2019 in Nov. of 2018. I thought it was amazing... fast, handled and braked incredible. Best street sports car I’ve ever owned. I still feel the same about it. I know I’ll be in the minority, especially on this forum but it’s just not for me anymore.
For me the car is very uncomfortable, noisy and doesn’t have much storage. I get it...it’s supposed to be that way. It was great for short trips around town of a quick blast over to the coast in 45 mins. It’s was a super cool car and a head turner for sure. I had every intention of buying the C8. I’ve been on this forum for months, watched the reveal with enthusiasm, put my deposit down in July, got a pretty good number 45 on a 200 allocation wait list dealer, went to the reveal/show at my dealer.
Then in the long disappointing wait, the allocation restrictions, the GM strike. The possibility of getting my car in May or even June and having it be a year old 4-6 months later.
Then the deal breaker. I took my C7 on a short 750 mile road trip and decided I actually no long liked the car. It was noisy and extremely uncomfortable. It only had a 4,000 miles on it and already had two warranty issues I didn’t want to go through the trouble of dealing with.
So this will undoubtedly make the next in line at the dealer happy, I cancelled my order and got my deposit refunded.
For me the car is very uncomfortable, noisy and doesn’t have much storage. I get it...it’s supposed to be that way. It was great for short trips around town of a quick blast over to the coast in 45 mins. It’s was a super cool car and a head turner for sure. I had every intention of buying the C8. I’ve been on this forum for months, watched the reveal with enthusiasm, put my deposit down in July, got a pretty good number 45 on a 200 allocation wait list dealer, went to the reveal/show at my dealer.
Then in the long disappointing wait, the allocation restrictions, the GM strike. The possibility of getting my car in May or even June and having it be a year old 4-6 months later.
Then the deal breaker. I took my C7 on a short 750 mile road trip and decided I actually no long liked the car. It was noisy and extremely uncomfortable. It only had a 4,000 miles on it and already had two warranty issues I didn’t want to go through the trouble of dealing with.
So this will undoubtedly make the next in line at the dealer happy, I cancelled my order and got my deposit refunded.
Drifting
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From: Florida
Bought my C7 2019 in Nov. of 2018. I thought it was amazing... fast, handled and braked incredible. Best street sports car I’ve ever owned. I still feel the same about it. I know I’ll be in the minority, especially on this forum but it’s just not for me anymore.
For me the car is very uncomfortable, noisy and doesn’t have much storage. I get it...it’s supposed to be that way. It was great for short trips around town of a quick blast over to the coast in 45 mins. It’s was a super cool car and a head turner for sure. I had every intention of buying the C8. I’ve been on this forum for months, watched the reveal with enthusiasm, put my deposit down in July, got a pretty good number 45 on a 200 allocation wait list dealer, went to the reveal/show at my dealer.
Then in the long disappointing wait, the allocation restrictions, the GM strike. The possibility of getting my car in May or even June and having it be a year old 4-6 months later.
Then the deal breaker. I took my C7 on a short 750 mile road trip and decided I actually no long liked the car. It was noisy and extremely uncomfortable. It only had a 4,000 miles on it and already had two warranty issues I didn’t want to go through the trouble of dealing with.
So this will undoubtedly make the next in line at the dealer happy, I cancelled my order and got my deposit refunded.
For me the car is very uncomfortable, noisy and doesn’t have much storage. I get it...it’s supposed to be that way. It was great for short trips around town of a quick blast over to the coast in 45 mins. It’s was a super cool car and a head turner for sure. I had every intention of buying the C8. I’ve been on this forum for months, watched the reveal with enthusiasm, put my deposit down in July, got a pretty good number 45 on a 200 allocation wait list dealer, went to the reveal/show at my dealer.
Then in the long disappointing wait, the allocation restrictions, the GM strike. The possibility of getting my car in May or even June and having it be a year old 4-6 months later.
Then the deal breaker. I took my C7 on a short 750 mile road trip and decided I actually no long liked the car. It was noisy and extremely uncomfortable. It only had a 4,000 miles on it and already had two warranty issues I didn’t want to go through the trouble of dealing with.
So this will undoubtedly make the next in line at the dealer happy, I cancelled my order and got my deposit refunded.
Drifting
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Bought my C7 2019 in Nov. of 2018. I thought it was amazing... fast, handled and braked incredible. Best street sports car I’ve ever owned. I still feel the same about it. I know I’ll be in the minority, especially on this forum but it’s just not for me anymore.
For me the car is very uncomfortable, noisy and doesn’t have much storage. I get it...it’s supposed to be that way. It was great for short trips around town of a quick blast over to the coast in 45 mins. It’s was a super cool car and a head turner for sure. I had every intention of buying the C8. I’ve been on this forum for months, watched the reveal with enthusiasm, put my deposit down in July, got a pretty good number 45 on a 200 allocation wait list dealer, went to the reveal/show at my dealer.
Then in the long disappointing wait, the allocation restrictions, the GM strike. The possibility of getting my car in May or even June and having it be a year old 4-6 months later.
Then the deal breaker. I took my C7 on a short 750 mile road trip and decided I actually no long liked the car. It was noisy and extremely uncomfortable. It only had a 4,000 miles on it and already had two warranty issues I didn’t want to go through the trouble of dealing with.
So this will undoubtedly make the next in line at the dealer happy, I cancelled my order and got my deposit refunded.
For me the car is very uncomfortable, noisy and doesn’t have much storage. I get it...it’s supposed to be that way. It was great for short trips around town of a quick blast over to the coast in 45 mins. It’s was a super cool car and a head turner for sure. I had every intention of buying the C8. I’ve been on this forum for months, watched the reveal with enthusiasm, put my deposit down in July, got a pretty good number 45 on a 200 allocation wait list dealer, went to the reveal/show at my dealer.
Then in the long disappointing wait, the allocation restrictions, the GM strike. The possibility of getting my car in May or even June and having it be a year old 4-6 months later.
Then the deal breaker. I took my C7 on a short 750 mile road trip and decided I actually no long liked the car. It was noisy and extremely uncomfortable. It only had a 4,000 miles on it and already had two warranty issues I didn’t want to go through the trouble of dealing with.
So this will undoubtedly make the next in line at the dealer happy, I cancelled my order and got my deposit refunded.
Burning Brakes
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This just in from an intercepted communication at STUPID (Society To Undermine Performance Intended Devices) headquarters.
Chief Negativity Officer and President of STUPID, Skid Row Joe calls meeting to order.
Joe demands a weekly update on the bashing and attempted reversal of C8 orders placed by excited buyers.
On the home front, new member GrandSport has started multiple threads attempting to nit pick and find fault where it doesn’t exist. His latest thread concerning the tail lights has received surprising resistance from the C8 buyers. (or fan boys as we call them in a childish attempt to quell their enthusiasm) Even the President of STUPID joined in with a weak salvo trying to now compare the back end to a Lumina. So far he has used Cruze, Malibu, and now Lumina. We are working frantically to come up with additional Chevy cars that also have tail lights for our supreme leader to use.
Joe asks for status on the German Car Eastern front. They are happy to report that Dr. Ice appears to be holding his own quite nicely. When hit with the question of why would someone buy a car shaped like a potato with a VW Beetle front end for over twice the price with no performance gain, Dr.Ice gives replies that are so verbose and long winded, that even the most ardent C8 fan quits reading them before they end. This seems to be a fairly successful tactic and he continues to employ this with every reply.
Next Joe seeks styling bashing report and is slightly disappointed in IronV as his incessant rambling of the exact same opinion is falling on deaf ears.
Not to be deterred, Joe vows to continue his useless attempts at proving that once and for all the C8 CAN’T be the success that it is and he will keep up the good fight.
LATE NEWS FLASH: GrandSport oversteps bounds gets thread locked, more at 10:00.
Chief Negativity Officer and President of STUPID, Skid Row Joe calls meeting to order.
Joe demands a weekly update on the bashing and attempted reversal of C8 orders placed by excited buyers.
On the home front, new member GrandSport has started multiple threads attempting to nit pick and find fault where it doesn’t exist. His latest thread concerning the tail lights has received surprising resistance from the C8 buyers. (or fan boys as we call them in a childish attempt to quell their enthusiasm) Even the President of STUPID joined in with a weak salvo trying to now compare the back end to a Lumina. So far he has used Cruze, Malibu, and now Lumina. We are working frantically to come up with additional Chevy cars that also have tail lights for our supreme leader to use.
Joe asks for status on the German Car Eastern front. They are happy to report that Dr. Ice appears to be holding his own quite nicely. When hit with the question of why would someone buy a car shaped like a potato with a VW Beetle front end for over twice the price with no performance gain, Dr.Ice gives replies that are so verbose and long winded, that even the most ardent C8 fan quits reading them before they end. This seems to be a fairly successful tactic and he continues to employ this with every reply.
Next Joe seeks styling bashing report and is slightly disappointed in IronV as his incessant rambling of the exact same opinion is falling on deaf ears.
Not to be deterred, Joe vows to continue his useless attempts at proving that once and for all the C8 CAN’T be the success that it is and he will keep up the good fight.
LATE NEWS FLASH: GrandSport oversteps bounds gets thread locked, more at 10:00.
. I don't think I've EVER in my life went out of my way to bash something i didn't like just to ruin others enjoyment or enthusiasm.