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So after doing all of my research on the topic, it looks like following are the differences between (2LT + GT2) Vs 3LT as per the configurator:
GT2 Seats with Napa Leather and Carbon-Fiber Trim
(comes standard with the 3LT)
Custom Leather-Wrapped Interior
More luxurious soft touch surfaces
Additional red leather on the lower dash for the adrenaline red interior (see gfys that I attached below)
Suede-Wrapped Upper Interior Trim
On roof + A/B pillars + behind the seats
Leather-Wrapped Lower Door
Doesn't look like this is the case as in leather wrapped doors exist for both 1LT/2LT/3LT (no change here, except for the quality of leather in a 3LT as compared to 1LT/2LT
Leather wrap + Stitching on the steering wheel airbag
Also visible in the gfys I attached below
I've finally decided the "softer/luxurious leather surfaces" + leather/stitching on the steering wheel is worth the 3K more to go from 2LT + GT2 to 3LT.
I thought the 2LT Vs 3LT on C8 was like the C7. The C7 2LT only the seats were leather and all the rest was vinyl and the 3LT had leather on the dash, armrest and upper door panels plus the sueded roof and A pillars.
Did they add leather to the doors and dash on the 2LT C8?
Last edited by george vee; Dec 6, 2019 at 01:25 PM.
And because it’s a rapidly depreciating asset, that’s exactly why he shouldn’t be arbitrarily adding an additional $3K onto the bill, if the 3LT is not something he cares about. If he wants the 3LT features, then fine, but if he doesn’t care about those features, don’t just sink an additional $3K into something that will never return that $3K “investment”.
Everyone has their preferences, but when I buy a sports car, I only buy an option if it makes the car go faster or improves its handling. I've saved lots of money with my method, not only on the purchase price but when it come time to sell. After 3 - 4 years options add little to the selling price of cars. I'm not criticizing those who add ten of thousands of options to the base price, it's just that in my case I have no desire for them. Hell, if the base car had cloth seats it would be fine with me. Leather adds weight, gets cold in the winter and hot in the summer. Of course those deficiencies can be countered by opting for heated and ventilated seats, at a premium of course.
I did GT2 seats when I was thinking 2LT
Since I'm two toning Black/Red it made a difference to where I am going to spring for 3LT, More Red, Additional Stitching, Nice Air Bag Cover. More Leather & Better headliner is just more icing on top of all that. Plus you'll see more of the inside of your car than the outside
My personal opinion is they are making sports cars like luxury cars and adding weight and options defeating the purpose of a sports car .
i don't want leather interior, electric seats etc. It cracks me up, guys hating chrome or anything not black because it doesn't fit on a sports car then upgrading because 8 or 10 speakers isn't enough and a host of other options that add weight.
A true sports car doesn't need upgraded options. Just buy a luxury boat of a car and stop pretending your goal is performance.
My personal opinion is they are making sports cars like luxury cars and adding weight and options defeating the purpose of a sports car .
i don't want leather interior, electric seats etc. It cracks me up, guys hating chrome or anything not black because it doesn't fit on a sports car then upgrading because 8 or 10 speakers isn't enough and a host of other options that add weight.
A true sports car doesn't need upgraded options. Just buy a luxury boat of a car and stop pretending your goal is performance.
I'll inform the boys at Zuffenhausen on their error at providing luxury options for the 911. Also the lads in Warwickshire about how those DB11s aren't real sports cars. You can spend a day configuring an Aston. You can bring them your favorite childhood toy and they could make your leather that color. I'd call that awesome! My C6 and C7 were both the highest trim level and I love them. I don't believe the better quality leather hinders performance significantly.
I'll inform the boys at Zuffenhausen on their error at providing luxury options for the 911.
Originally Posted by MildBillT
Also the lads in Warwickshire about how those DB11s aren't real sports cars. You can spend a day configuring an Aston. You can bring them your favorite childhood toy and they could make your leather that color. I'd call that awesome! My C6 and C7 were both the highest trim level and I love them. I don't believe the better quality leather hinders performance significantly.
Unfortunately the 911 has become a status symbol for many buyers, just like a trophy wife is for the wealthy. So of course these buyers want the same luxury that they have become accustomed to in their Bentleys. So the 911 is getting bigger and heavier to accommodate their wealthy clientele. Porsche does still cater to sports car enthusiasts with their GT models. A GT3 for example provides the raw sports car experience that many purists crave.
This may be a generational issue. My first 911 had a curb weight of only 2250 lbs and was considered spartan even in 1970. The 992's curb weight is now between 3400 - 3600 lbs, depending on model and configuration. Porsche builds what their customers want, and there's no doubt that buyers like me are a dying breed
My personal opinion is they are making sports cars like luxury cars and adding weight and options defeating the purpose of a sports car .
i don't want leather interior, electric seats etc. It cracks me up, guys hating chrome or anything not black because it doesn't fit on a sports car then upgrading because 8 or 10 speakers isn't enough and a host of other options that add weight.
A true sports car doesn't need upgraded options. Just buy a luxury boat of a car and stop pretending your goal is performance.
If you are truly serious about not wanting any creature comfort, toys or unnecessary items, and only performance, this is what you should look at. Same mid-engine, LS/LT engines, even a fairly similar price, manual transmission, and no driving helpers.
The C8 is designed to be daily driveable, which necessitate things like ABS and stability control (not everyone is a F1 or WRC champion), some creature comforts, adjustable seats, trunk space, easy ingress and egress, and other items, which add up to 3600 lbs. For comparison, the Ultima in the picture weighs 2000 lbs. The 50 lbs more for 2LT makes no noticeable difference in performance even for a track rat, and a serious track rat would want the PDR and the HUD. Btw, a McLaren, a Ferrari or a Lamborghini are not barebones racecars for the street either.
if you are truly serious about not wanting any creature comfort, toys or unnecessary items, and only performance, this is what you should look at. Same mid-engine, ls/lt engines, even a fairly similar price, manual transmission, and no driving helpers.
the c8 is designed to be daily driveable, which necessitate things like abs and stability control (not everyone is a f1 or wrc champion), some creature comforts, adjustable seats, trunk space, easy ingress and egress, and other items, which add up to 3600 lbs. For comparison, the ultima in the picture weighs 2000 lbs. The 50 lbs more for 2lt makes no noticeable difference in performance even for a track rat, and a serious track rat would want the pdr and the hud. Btw, a mclaren, a ferrari or a lamborghini are not barebones racecars for the street either.
Someone needs to take a financial management course, because $3K is still $3K whether you’re comparing it to an $80K automobile or a cup of coffee. Simply because we’re talking about an automobile, doesn’t diminish the buying power of that additional $3K. That whole, “we’re talking about $80K, what’s another $3K?” is a negotiating trick used by real estate agents, car salesmen, etc to get you to spend more money. Don’t fall for it.
Here’s another example. I have about $3K in GM MasterCard points available and I intend on using them. Would you also tell me, “it’s just $3K, don’t bother using those points”? Does that really make sense? If that doesn’t make sense, why does it make sense for the OP to indiscriminately add 3LT and pay the $3K upcharge if the 3LT features are something he does not cares about?
yes yes yes....
3000.00... boat slip for theseason
3000.00 two summer boat gas
3000.00 insurance for 2.5 years
3000.00 custom wheels
3000.00 ron fellows school with money left over
3000.00 a new pool heater
3000.00 2 electric bikes
If you are truly serious about not wanting any creature comfort, toys or unnecessary items, and only performance, this is what you should look at. Same mid-engine, LS/LT engines, even a fairly similar price, manual transmission, and no driving helpers.
The C8 is designed to be daily driveable, which necessitate things like ABS and stability control (not everyone is a F1 or WRC champion), some creature comforts, adjustable seats, trunk space, easy ingress and egress, and other items, which add up to 3600 lbs. For comparison, the Ultima in the picture weighs 2000 lbs. The 50 lbs more for 2LT makes no noticeable difference in performance even for a track rat, and a serious track rat would want the PDR and the HUD. Btw, a McLaren, a Ferrari or a Lamborghini are not barebones racecars for the street either.
they build cars like the one pictured at RCR (race car replicas)... in fraser, michigan... about the same cost as a new vette.... bad to the bone if that what you are looking for... about 25 miles from where I live
Last edited by Display333; Oct 29, 2021 at 03:20 PM.
Were there such a choice, I'd opt for the 0LT every time. Way too much "stuff," so why pay extra for even more? A new study shows across all vehicles most owners don't use most of it and many don't have a clue what all even exists on their vehicles.
This car is two weeks old. Delivered on 1/21. My C7 was 3LT. This car is 2LT. Except for the stitching in the steering wheel airbag---not much difference in my opinion.
I would rather have the 3LT and think I overspent than not have it and wished that I had gotten it. Another way I look at it is - I am more interested in getting my dream car and being 100% totally satisfied than saving $3K.
I would ignore the snarky comments. I think it is useful to get others' opinions. Many times, another person can give you another perspective that you had not considered.
