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Old Mar 4, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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Actually its not meaningless. GM is focusing on sold orders. A month wait more is not meaningless to some. Secondly, if its not retail sold, the concierge cannot give you any info.
Thirdly, all I was doing was answering his question, and I stand by it, GM has no idea if it is a sold order unless the dealer enters said order as sold.
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It is meaningless.

Sold doesn't mean produced before stock order -- depends on plant sequencing of colors, options/parts, etc. Stock v. Sold is much ado about nothing a few week delta at most -- if that is important to ya, you either have stage 4 brain/pancreatic/etc cancer, or some serious ego issues -- very sorry if it's the former, get help if the latter.

Your assertion about concierge is simply untrue, but your post count did go up!
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Old Mar 4, 2020 | 01:54 PM
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Well, Friendly Chevy just refunded my deposit......kudos to them for that anyway.
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Old Mar 4, 2020 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Toads
It is meaningless.

Sold doesn't mean produced before stock order -- depends on plant sequencing of colors, options/parts, etc. Stock v. Sold is much ado about nothing a few week delta at most -- if that is important to ya, you either have stage 4 brain/pancreatic/etc cancer, or some serious ego issues -- very sorry if it's the former, get help if the latter.

Your assertion about concierge is simply untrue, but your post count did go up!
Sorry, just dealing in facts. If you give the concierge a retail stock order number, there is limited info they will give you. It happened to a friend. Not sure how YOU would know unless your dealer screwed you and did retail stock as my friends did.
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Old Mar 4, 2020 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jcapps
Sorry, just dealing in facts. If you give the concierge a retail stock order number, there is limited info they will give you. It happened to a friend. Not sure how YOU would know unless your dealer screwed you and did retail stock as my friends did.
"just dealing in facts' followed by, "my friend said" Gotcha, guess that's why they call it FloriDuh.
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 05:53 AM
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600 total
I was mid 400 when deposit went down in July.

Now, no idea where I am on the list, if it even exists.
Which dealer is this, mine has 600 too and I was 415 when I put mine in Oct 1st.
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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagle Ray 7
Classic got 47 first allocation and 30 on the second. I'm currently 125 down from 135. If anyone at classic grapevine is getting BS numbers you have the wrong salesperson.
My sales person at Classic in Grapevine just last night told me they have had 65 accepted orders to date. I hear different things for multiple people... not sure what to believe. They said they have 300 allocations coming but the math is a little funny considering what they have received so far(at least what they say). I am on the fence and thinking about going and getting a new 2019 Z06 and eating a couple years and getting a C8 Z06. The rollout of the C8 and the less than transparent allocation process has been the most frustrating part of this experience. You would think spending 91K for a third car would be the toughest part but not so much!
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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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I am obsessed with learning when my C8 will be built just like nearly everyone else that ordered one. I have faith in my dealership and they have been upfront with me since I put in my order on July 26th. They are listed in the top 50 dealerships for 2019. My salesman wrote #7 right on my order and said that they had at least 100 allocations. He also said that at the time of my order of a Zeus Bronze Metallic it may not get picked up in their first consensus because of the ramp up plan that had Zeus Bronze colors set for the 10th week of production. He was correct and it was not ordered in the September allocations. Then the strike hit and no one knew when orders would be accepted or when production would start.

My order was entered during the December allocations and it went to 2000. By early January it went to 3000 with a TPW of 3/23. However like everyone else the TPW disappeared and I have been stuck at 3000 ever since. I am confident that my order will move up next week and the 3/23 TPW will return. My dealer says that they expect their first shipment from their first allocations very soon. As long as there are no further QC holds or part shortages I expect to have my ZBM 3LT Z51 FE4 delivered in mid to late April. I have only contacted the Concierge once and will wait until next Friday before I check again to see if my order has moved to 3300 or higher. I will not listen to all of the "rumors" and so-called experts that put out misinformation or the new term of "Fake News"

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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TopBeer
My sales person at Classic in Grapevine just last night told me they have had 65 accepted orders to date. I hear different things for multiple people... not sure what to believe. They said they have 300 allocations coming but the math is a little funny considering what they have received so far(at least what they say). I am on the fence and thinking about going and getting a new 2019 Z06 and eating a couple years and getting a C8 Z06. The rollout of the C8 and the less than transparent allocation process has been the most frustrating part of this experience. You would think spending 91K for a third car would be the toughest part but not so much!
It all comes down to choice of dealer. The top tier dealers make the C8 shine brighter, the bottom feeder’s convert it into an Equinox of frustration and alienation and those in the middle just foster varying levels of bewilderment. For all its hype and glare, at the end of the day, it’s still just a mass-produced GM product and GM owes nobody nothing, or so is the obvious prevailing philosophy. As such, there is ZERO concern of how this product is marketed and sold beyond the factory. If there was, there would be more emphasis on predictability and consistency.

I think it’s best just to put it in the proper perspective. 2 years from now these cars will be a common sight almost like Corolla’s and no big deal anymore. Right now GM can do their thing, but in a couple of years buyers will then be able to do theirs. The choice will be fewer sales closer to MSRP (certainly not above it) or more sales substantially lower than that. Profit margins will be lean. If one looks at the production history of the C7, it’s clear there is a predictable path. The Z06 will attract some, but most can’t afford $125-150K. The future base in 2 years will probably be well over $70K with taxes for a stripped down 1LT or over $80K for even a decent 2LT. Couple that with the inevitable downturn in the economy and, well........you get my drift.

IMO, the 2021 model year will be the peak production year for the C8.

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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Panfish
It all comes down to choice of dealer. The top tier dealers make the C8 shine brighter, the bottom feeder’s convert it into an Equinox of frustration and alienation and those in the middle just foster varying levels of bewilderment. For all its hype and glare, at the end of the day, it’s still just a mass-produced GM product and GM owes nobody nothing, or so is the obvious prevailing philosophy. As such, there is ZERO concern of how this product is marketed and sold beyond the factory. If there was, there would be more emphasis on predictability and consistency.

I think it’s best just to put it in the proper perspective. 2 years from now these cars will be a common sight almost like Corolla’s and no big deal anymore. Right now GM can do their thing, but in a couple of years buyers will then be able to do theirs. The choice will be fewer sales closer to MSRP (certainly not above it) or more sales substantially lower than that. Profit margins will be lean. If one looks at the production history of the C7, it’s clear there is a predictable path. The Z06 will attract some, but most can’t afford $125-150K. The future base in 2 years will probably be well over $70K with taxes for a stripped down 1LT or over $80K for even a decent 2LT. Couple that with the inevitable downturn in the economy and, well........you get my drift.

IMO, the 2021 model year will be the peak production year for the C8.
This is one of the most cogent well delivered posts I have seen in a long time. It is based in logic, historical trends, and basic market changes/fluctuations. Your reasoning is why I am considering just getting the new C7 Z06 that is about $13,000 off original MSRP and enjoying the value for a while and getting the C8 when all the hype is gone.

C8Jake has got to hate your post and will inevitably weigh in with his normal candor, wisdom, and grace... he may even call you a poopie head!
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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TopBeer
My sales person at Classic in Grapevine just last night told me they have had 65 accepted orders to date. I hear different things for multiple people... not sure what to believe. They said they have 300 allocations coming but the math is a little funny considering what they have received so far(at least what they say). I am on the fence and thinking about going and getting a new 2019 Z06 and eating a couple years and getting a C8 Z06. The rollout of the C8 and the less than transparent allocation process has been the most frustrating part of this experience. You would think spending 91K for a third car would be the toughest part but not so much!
This is what I just did......I got tired of dealership games and Thursday I bought a dark grey 2019 2LZ Z06......and I've had a silly grin on my face since then.......later down the line I may spring for a C8 Z06, but unlike most my new Z06 is my daily.
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Originally Posted by TopBeer
This is one of the most cogent well delivered posts I have seen in a long time. It is based in logic, historical trends, and basic market changes/fluctuations. Your reasoning is why I am considering just getting the new C7 Z06 that is about $13,000 off original MSRP and enjoying the value for a while and getting the C8 when all the hype is gone.

C8Jake has got to hate your post and will inevitably weigh in with his normal candor, wisdom, and grace... he may even call you a poopie head!
Nah.......M.O. is a response involving a monosyllabic smiley bankrupt of substance.
But good post, I couldn’t help but think of My Cousin Vinny.......


Mr. Gambini....that is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out objection.

OVERRULED!

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Originally Posted by Panfish
Nah.......M.O. is a response involving a monosyllabic smiley bankrupt of substance.
But good post, I couldn’t help but think of My Cousin Vinny.......


Mr. Gambini....that is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out objection.

OVERRULED!
Where do you think I got the word cogent?
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This is what I just did......I got tired of dealership games and Thursday I bought a dark grey 2019 2LZ Z06......and I've had a silly grin on my face since then.......later down the line I may spring for a C8 Z06, but unlike most my new Z06 is my daily.
I was following this thread and trying to see what you were going to end up with, glad you got something you can enjoy. I may be right there with you in a couple of days... looking really hard at the C7 Z06!
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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TopBeer
The rollout of the C8 and the less than transparent allocation process has been the most frustrating part of this experience. You would think spending 91K for a third car would be the toughest part but not so much!

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I was following this thread and trying to see what you were going to end up with, glad you got something you can enjoy. I may be right there with you in a couple of days... looking really hard at the C7 Z06!
If you can get a good deal on it, it might be the way to go. Enjoy it for a couple of years and then when all the hullabaloo dies down, get a C8 below MSRP or a cherry used one. Right now, the C8 is the new hot babe strutting around in the neighborhood, but in a couple of years, the C7 and other past generations will regain much of their appeal once this babe is.....well, just a different babe.
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Is It True That Dealers Are Losing 20% Of Thier Allocations?
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Is It True That Dealers Are Losing 20% Of Thier Allocations?
That’s still in the mystery pile. Supposedly, dealers were to get a forward-looking plan for the 2020 remainder of the run with their March consensus allocations or something to that effect, but that hasn’t happened.

I’m trying to channel the ghost of Miss Cleo for more info......
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Originally Posted by rcn
This is what I just did......I got tired of dealership games and Thursday I bought a dark grey 2019 2LZ Z06......and I've had a silly grin on my face since then.......later down the line I may spring for a C8 Z06, but unlike most my new Z06 is my daily.
Hmmm...I think I said that on page 5 LOL

Congrats, it's a great car.
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Received another text from dealer, they got another 40 picked up for March putting them at 100 total so far, mine should be in the next allocation during April. Still eyeballing the 2019 C7 Z06, it’s a beast.
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Received another text from dealer, they got another 40 picked up for March putting them at 100 total so far, mine should be in the next allocation during April. Still eyeballing the 2019 C7 Z06, it’s a beast.
I just have to laugh, received another text and a phone call from my dealer. It appears (at least this is what he is saying) there is a second list and the first list had 65 people on it that were picked up already and I was 135 on the second list making me 195. Then he is telling me that was why he originally though and that I will be getting a car soon. Funny things is, he told me when I put my deposit down July 2019 that I was 139 and this was before any allocations so his argument doesn’t hold water. I even have texts showing my number. I did mention about the YouTuber Brink of Speed having his car already produced and he put his deposit down a week after I did. He started rambling about preferential treatment for other buyers and that I should understand. I just laughed and said thanks, let me know where I stand when you figure it out. Maybe the 2019 Z06 is starting to look like the right move? Sorry guys, I am rambling, just #%#! off about the whole thing... been waiting almost 8 months and this is getting frustrating.
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