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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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I think people believe the fob key might break including myself.
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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sleekvt
I just placed an order for the MY22 rear trunk lock cylinder to retrofit onto my MY23.

The decision to remove this lock cylinder doesn't make sense to me except if it is a supply chain issue.

But what a price to pay for MY23 owners -- 3 inch hole saw on the trunk lid?
Why don't you just order the parts and leave the 22 stock, the cost should be about the same?
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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Clc3251
how much was it? How is it keyed?
It was $186 at the delivery (arriving next week).
Unclear about how the key works - not sure if it can be set up for my existing key.
At this point, I'm willing to live with a different key - anything to avoid a 3" hole.

There are several reasons this is important to me:
1. a few months ago I was going on a 500 mile road trip. Tried to fill up my 2016 C7 and gas cap door failed - solenoid was jammed. Didn't know how to fix in 5 mins so switched cars.
2. I also drive a 1987 Lotus Turbo Esprit with a cable release for the trunk; those are known to fail and one extreme solution is to drill 3" hole (or worse, destroy taillight to get access to latch). (try finding an OEM taillight for any 1987 car of any make)

At least the C8 fuel cap door isn't an issue - I see I can reach up in the driver side intake vent and fiddle with the mechanism if it jams.

Destroying a trunk lid on a 2023 C8 as a 'solution' is simply unbelievable on this lock-delete decision, but I'm open to hearing officially WHY?

You have a solution that works. You delete it. If it was supply chain, I get it.
GM doesn't want to hold up a sale of a MSRP $60K car due to lack of a $100 lock cylinder.

GM offered a retrofit on 2022 cars for the rear back up sensor ($50 credit) - why wasn't that used here?

MY23 got the back up sensor reinstated and they took away the rear trunk lock cylinder?

At least offer the lock cylinder key as an official retrofit.
Why I don't agree paying for it separately, that is a better solution than "...find 3" hole saw and destroy trunk lid".

SMH

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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by op z
If the battery dies completely, the emergency key is the only way to get into the car, and the only way to get access to the battery to jump or replace it. And if the power release for the trunk / hatch fails, the key is the only way to open it (other than cutting a hole in the trunk lid).

Why wouldn't you use the FOB key in this case?
That IS the emergency key we're talking about.
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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sleekvt
I just placed an order for the MY22 rear trunk lock cylinder to retrofit onto my MY23.

The decision to remove this lock cylinder doesn't make sense to me except if it is a supply chain issue.

But what a price to pay for MY23 owners -- 3 inch hole saw on the trunk lid?
Do you have part number(s) for what you ordered? Are you going to do the retrofit or have a shop do it? Just wondering if this is a reasonable DIY fix. Please post pics of the install if possible.
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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 03:05 PM
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It should be a viable alternative depending upon one's cost tolerance. I don't know how much the cost is for that assembly or even whether they are readily available. Given that they are discontinued for MY23, there may be very limited availability, so better go early if you want to do it.

Since the rear fascia has to come off, I'd estimate a minimum of 2 hours labor.
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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KentCNC
Do you have part number(s) for what you ordered? Are you going to do the retrofit or have a shop do it? Just wondering if this is a reasonable DIY fix. Please post pics of the install if possible.
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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KentCNC
Do you have part number(s) for what you ordered? Are you going to do the retrofit or have a shop do it? Just wondering if this is a reasonable DIY fix. Please post pics of the install if possible.
I gave the technician my MY23 VIN and he confirmed this part # 85511550 is listed in the computer as compatible with my MY23 Corvette.

However, since the part is for 2020-2022, I will have to confirm this once I receive it since technically it's not for MY23.

I plan to retrofit myself - it looks like 3 mounting holes for rivets (?) and one for the keyhole.

Will post pictures when I get a chance to do it.

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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
It should be a viable alternative depending upon one's cost tolerance. I don't know how much the cost is for that assembly or even whether they are readily available. Given that they are discontinued for MY23, there may be very limited availability, so better go early if you want to do it.

Since the rear fascia has to come off, I'd estimate a minimum of 2 hours labor.
The parts should typically be available for 5 years after discontinuation - standard practice for most industries, but we live in interesting times.

$186 for the lock assembly. update - they charge $20 to cut the key at the dealer; as not clear how they match the lock to your existing key (probably not).

Not sure if rear bumper cover needs to come off; might be possible to rivet on the inside as the fascia hole is already open for the key cylinder.

But either alternative more appealing to avoid the emergency 3" hole saw recommendation ;-)

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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Paris
And what might that key blank # be????? Sharing is caring.
Key blank for MY23 C8 13536119 - from the dealer it costs $78.70 plus $20 to cut - OUCH! Should have researched it more like the $7 aftermarket key in post #31 with $10 cutting at ACE hardware


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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 06:11 AM
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Emergency Key

The local ACE hardware cut it for $10. More than the price of the key blank. Works perfectly.
YMMV
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by c8winston
I have had a spare key made for both my 2019 Acura, 2015 C7 and now my 2021 HTC at a "super" ACE Hardware. The key blank is: HU100 for the Corvette. I keep it in my wallet and FOB #3 in a Faraday pouch in the glove box.
You realize the fob already has a key inside it?
Why do you need a second key?
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Clc3251
Any update?
On vacation until July 10 - driving my cool 2018 Ford Focus on the streets of Los Angeles until then.
Will have the parts come up this week and pick up next week when I'm back.
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 03:30 PM
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I simply cannot believe that somebody somewhere hasn't pinned down Harlan or Tadge to explain on camera why TF we ended up with this hole saw emergency access plan. Shockingly inept.
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sleekvt
On vacation until July 10 - driving my cool 2018 Ford Focus on the streets of Los Angeles until then.
Will have the parts come up this week and pick up next week when I'm back.
cool, enjoy and update when you can. Eagerly following this thread. I checked my 23 trunk release and there is a space to hold the cable for this release.
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DSOMrulz
If the battery dies completely, the emergency key is the only way to get into the car, and the only way to get access to the battery to jump or replace it. And if the power release for the trunk / hatch fails, the key is the only way to open it (other than cutting a hole in the trunk lid).
Your battery charger plugged into your cigarette lighter should provide enough juice to open the hatch.
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 09:19 AM
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As I understand the issue, the only time that you would need to cut a 3" hole would be if the electrical locking mechanism itself failed.
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by slburgie
Your battery charger plugged into your cigarette lighter should provide enough juice to open the hatch.
Might be worth a try.
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by khoeysr
I simply cannot believe that somebody somewhere hasn't pinned down Harlan or Tadge to explain on camera why TF we ended up with this hole saw emergency access plan. Shockingly inept.
Originally Posted by johnodrake
As I understand the issue, the only time that you would need to cut a 3" hole would be if the electrical locking mechanism itself failed.
Hmm, mine did fail a year ago! Thank goodness for the FOB key being able to open!

BTW, my "guess" is Tadge and Harlan would say If Allowed "We don't control cost reduction efforts and agree it's Stupid!" (That is what a rep from Corvette Blog stated on the recent Steve Garrett podcast was the reason- cost. May not be the official reason (when/if we finally get one.) Thatmay not be until what was said "they are developing a new latch" and assume it's just not ready and no prior lock systems currently available.

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