I have no problem on my Jeep Wrangler with eTorque and stop/start. The initial start is with a traditional starter, then once the engine gets warm, eTorque takes over and starting is done by an electric motor and accessory belt, and you get an electric torque boost off the line. It's seamless and you can barely detect it with no delay moving before the gas engine kicks in.

If the Corvette had a system like that (e-Ray?) I'd happily take the gas and emissions savings. I'm guessing that the e-Ray and Stingray (if equipped with start/stop for '24) will still use a traditional starter though which I HATE. I got a rental Chevy pickup when I took my C7 in for warranty work, and the stop/start system was sluggish, harsh, and didn't appear to help much with gas mileage.

 

Nope but all those who think we are not getting pushed (shoved, like it or not) into EVs, no gas stoves, and my guess soon a ~$5 tax on burgers made form beef!” They will learn to love veggie burgers when their brainwashed kids insist on getting them, with those neat, I saved the World toy gifts!

 

It looks like the next consensus is 3/23-3/27 with final allocation on 3/29 so you might still make the cut for a 2023. I'm in exactly the same position.

 

Why do you think that? @Michael T*

I'm (at 1100) awaiting for an allocation as well. Dealer thinks it will be picked up on 2nd cycle this month. Even if we to kick to April, I still believe we are in 23's from all I have read so far

 

Worrying about the cost of replacing a starter, is like fussing about the maintenance costs for your house while it is burning down. The relevant point is, "can such a car even be built under existing regulations?" If you want high performance gasoline engines to continue to exist for as long as possible, you must accept whatever manufacturers have to do (start/stop being one) to remain in compliance with CAFE requirements before being forced to go primarily electric as the requirements get tougher and tougher.

Do any of the many persistent critics ever stop to think why virtually every single manufacturer has also adopted stop/start systems? The easy answer is they have no choice if they want to keep building gasoline-powered vehicles in various performance classes. Would you rather face the relatively low probability of additional maintenance costs or have no high performance ICE sports car at all?

Corvettes only continue to exist with their high performance engines because there are enough other fuel efficient vehicles in the GM passenger vehicle fleet and Corvettes are built in small enough numbers to not push GM's passenger vehicle CAFE over the current limit. If today's C8 were the only passenger vehicle GM built, it would not meet today's CAFE requirements.

Moreover, as CAFE requirements continue to get tougher, GM may have no choice but to use things like start/stop, go hybrid, and reduce engine displacement in Corvettes before finally ceasing ICE production. By 2035, Corvettes with big ICE engines will be rendered extinct by law.

 

I don’t have to like it or buy a car with it.
As long as I can override it, fine.

I don’t want my vehicles doing anything unless I initiate it. My 22 GMC has a lot of options I don’t care for, but I can turn all of the rest of them off and they stay off.

What we need is a change in direction, instead of being force fed to accept stupidity.

 

It was just a joke, calm down.

The wokeness and ... is nothing more than a reaction according to Isaac for every ridiculous overreaction on one side there is an equal (and nowadays over reaction) on the other side. We all used to get along with our differences of opinion, but it has become .....

 

It's OK. I like veggie burgers. And no, differences of opinion have never been better tolerated by the human race. We just didn't have social media until relatively recently.

Please don't use the term "wokeness" here. It's one of dumbest word fads to ever be coined.

 

Yeah, we need a change in direction. Why can't I buy a Mach 2 airplane for the price of a C8 that runs on pure hydrogen. I really need to get from Washington DC to the west coast quickly 2-3 times a week to visit my grandson.

 

Perhaps they will do even better and start using captured cylinder pressure once engine is warm. Some companies are stopping the engine after a combustion event just after TDC and using that high gas pressure to start or assisting the starting of the engine. The C8 does that do with all 4 cylinders when in V4 Mode!

• The capture of a burnt air/fuel charge, or exhaust gas charge, in the combustion chamber contributes to a reduction in oil consumption, noise and vibration levels, and exhaust emissions when operating in V4 mode cylinder deactivation mode.

IT'S EASIER IF JUST TRYING TO USE CAPTURED COMBUSTION GASSES TO START THE ENGINE. JUST HAVE TO STOP THE ENGINE SLIGHTLY AFTER TDC WHEN IGNITION ON ANY CYLINDER.

 

 

Stop start is very noticeable on 2021 BMW 330I.

 

Also VERY noticeable on a ‘22 X5 M50i. Used a bimmer tool to disable. That start stop is a pain in the ***. When I get my E-Ray it will be the first thing to be modified to disable.

 

got it on my Honda pilot hate it. It went into the dealership last month and had the start and stop re programmed (recall), they also gave me a 10 year warrant on the starter motor and valve train.

 

Does it get better mileage when you talk nice to it?

 

Start/stop not only requires a beefier starter, they often upgrade the engine crank bearings (to survive low pressure starts), battery, transmission (to add an accumulator or additional pump to keep the forward clutches engaged), and/or an additional coolant pump (to keep the HVAC working). So lots of extra cost, complexity, and failure points that will almost certainly never be recovered in fuel savings.

I can't disable it on my GS, but to be honest it's pretty seamless so I don't care. But I'd still rather not have it.

 

I wonder how seamless it can be. I think it will be bizarre if it starts up with the usual bark every time it does a start-stop cycle, at every stop light. On my F-150, it can be disable in a few ways. One is a button on the dash (that resets every ignition cycle). But, another is the auto-stop/start is disabled if the transmission is in sport mode, or trailer mode. I have a guess that when that feature appears on Corvette, there will be various setting (such as powertrain set to sport of track) that will disable it.

 

Often cursing the gas stations I can't pass when cruising!
Only has a 12 gallon tank that has to fit between the narrowed chassis frame rails. Was custom made to fit from stainless.

When the car was finished in 2021 took it to the largest car show we have in the area, called Run To The Sun. Were getting ~3000 cars mostly from up North as it's held in March (just finished a week ago for 2023.) It's 1 1/2 hour drive for me where it's held and can't trust the gas gauge so always stop and keep minimum 1/4 tank! No longer bring the street rod as have to leave it in the spot you pick day 1 for the 3 day show or you lose your spot. Also hotels are requiring a min of 3 day stay as they are booked up!
So when I go now just drive the Vette of the wife's SUV.

 

Yeah you can switch it off but when you start it again the cycle starts over. Similarly when in sport mode it is overridden but when it starts in the morning it’s damn loud, which I’m okay with.